onepiecefan
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Really really wanna watch the gameplay but at the same time I don't really want everything revealed to me.
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Metal Gear Community Thread |OT3| The Best is Yet to Come
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Mercutiouk
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That gameplay trailer is so, so good. I just hope I'll never get Big Saru attacking my FOB though, can you imagine a base taken down by ammo clips?
Everyone wants to rule the world needs to be in this game ost. lol.
Screaming Meat
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Great shout.
swearing-circle
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Holy mother of god. Did not expect the FOB system to be this fantastic. Nor did I expect Motherbase to be so feature rich.
That's why I love Kojima's games. The games have a massive amount of features yet at the same time none of them feel half baked. I thought FOB infiltration would be far more simple as opposed to what we're actually getting.
This is simply why Kojima is the best. If he's going to bother adding invasions, he gonna do it right. Unlike games such as Watch Dogs which simply add the most simple invasion mechanics to try and ride on the tailcoat of the Souls series success.
That's why I love Kojima's games. The games have a massive amount of features yet at the same time none of them feel half baked. I thought FOB infiltration would be far more simple as opposed to what we're actually getting.
This is simply why Kojima is the best. If he's going to bother adding invasions, he gonna do it right. Unlike games such as Watch Dogs which simply add the most simple invasion mechanics to try and ride on the tailcoat of the Souls series success.
Embearded
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This is the liberty we won for ourselves brother!!
He took the invasion mechanic to the next level, this really has potential to be the best game ever made
OneEyedKing
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It's pretty crazy to me that this entire presentation was something Kojima might not have even done. Like for any other game this would be a massive E3 showstopping spectacle highlighting the biggest gameplay component, but for Kojima it was a "Eh, if we have time and energy we'll put this together I guess."
Mexican Sting
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Yeah, I'm not quite sure what they meant by that. He pretty explicitly stated in the beginning that FOB was going to be relegated to one on one, so I'm assuming that people will be able to defend your base for you, rather than teaming up in the same game.
thats old school dawg. i like it.
swearing-circle
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I'm in the same boat as you! From what I've seen so far and from what has been said of Kojima, this is the only game in the series that has a chance of dethroning MGS2 for me.
lmao you post Pet Shop Boys but not their best song? Come on. West End Girls is where it's at. I can flawlessly lip sync that song in its entirety.
Mexican Sting
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I don't care if it came out a year later, my helicopter music is going to be the entire Rocky IV soundtrack on shuffle.
Valkyri von Thanatos
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I imagine it is close since Kojima has said as much. However, I think Kojima probably still felt restricted by the MGS canon at this point, and probably won't be able to make something as high budget as this again. I have no doubt he will be able to make AAA games in the future, but I doubt it'll be as expansive as this.
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With the MGO PC delay as well as the initial plan for a delayed PC release, my worry with patches still stands -- REGARDLESS THOUGH that doesn't concern me much since I expect a very solid/stable game out of the gate. Also just because its on Steam doesn't automatically mean they'll use VAC, the online servers would need to have VAC support integrated (not just on by default). They could also go with other types of Anti-cheat (a lot of games on steam avoid using VAC because it's not regarded as a very good anti-cheat and lack of developer control, I think that was a big reason Rust went with EAC). I hope they will have something though, it'll be necessary.
It's going to take a lot of maintenance to keep MGO running smoothly and keep banning the latest cheaters/hackers. I just hope with all the crap going on over at Konami and studios being broken up/renamed they will have a group of people dedicated to doing so for a decent amount of time.
Let me elaborate on why I said VAC was considered "not very good":
1. Developers can't really control VAC. It works automatically based upon a list of pre-determined signatures/memory address hook checks/dns queries/etc.
2. I don't believe developers will have control over VAC bans. VAC bans can be delayed by several days or several months in an attempt to "throw off the cheaters", and not give them a good idea on what specifically they were doing to become detected at the time of ban. Unfortunately VAC prioritizes the process of confusing cheaters over securing the integrity of the online experience first and foremost.
3. VAC used to be (can still be?) circumvented several ways last I looked into it (either by hooking its memory reading syscalls and redirecting them to a clone process, or just returning values that existed prior to your cheat hooking a function in memory). A lot of cheats also run in ring0 (kernel mode) where VAC doesn't have privileges to access since it only runs in ring3 (usermode).
But hey, its way way way way better than nothing.
I think P.T was the game that he was overhauling and had creative freedom. But i think you are right to say that there are restrictions in the IP. But it just looks like he ran with it and made a monster of a game.
When i feel i have seen a lot.. it always ends up feeling like its just the tip of the iceberg.
The more you focus on that, the longer it'll seem.
So it's confirmed we can carry out revenge infiltrations on behalf of people on our friends list, so the real question is: how long after release do we form the OuterGaf coalition? I'm definitely looking forward to infiltrating some of y'all's bases initially but it would be cool to band together eventually.
Screaming Meat
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Oh my god... EVE Online levels of organisation, phone calls at work, co-ordinated strikes on particular players... XD
Good question for Tora.
What happens if the players having a 1 on 1 one of them disconnects? or has bad internet connection?
What about drops? will you get penalties? or what happens if the person just disconnects when about to finish the mission or get killed? what happens then?
What happens if the players having a 1 on 1 one of them disconnects? or has bad internet connection?
What about drops? will you get penalties? or what happens if the person just disconnects when about to finish the mission or get killed? what happens then?
I'm blasting eye of the tiger loud as shit going through Afghanistan ganking people for their resources.
Konami, please don't charge us $5 to use custom soundtracks.
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I forgot who said it but this game could be the perfect game. Let us choose our infiltration methods. I want the MGS3 feel where you land miles away from a target and have to work your way there.
This game needs underwater infilration. We've seen Afghanistan and parts of Africa. That leaves three unexplored areas.
Am i the only one disappointed that Big Boss does not have his personal shower in his own space? Diamond Dog aka Foxhound stays a pup during my gameplay. He's never growing up. Ocelot better not train him because his pup form increases morale.
He still could, they just put one near the helipad for convenience.
Yeah, D.D. is super adorable as a pup.
I wish Phantom Cigars existed in real life ¬-¬
TwoDurans
"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
How many people can we have on a PS Friends List? I promise to help reclaim any lost soldiers or resources for everyone in OuterGAF.
I just realized my youtube channel is in the OT. Sweet, thanks.
Vally is the man.
swearing-circle
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Man, the idea of running coalitions with people here on GAF if freaking exciting. I rarely do anything on GAF besides visit this community but hell, this will definitely make me more active here.
On ps4 I think it's 1000
Vally is the man.
Hmmm the pic misleads your phrase.
Remind me, is the digital release at midnight Eastern or Pacific?
Might not even be that many sleeps for some of us. I often get started on new games at 9pm.
PST.
RevolverRoden
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Hey guys is this too spoilery or should I watch--
CANNOT RESIST
BRUH.
CANNOT RESIST
Any word on when the gamersyde version of these two trailers will be up. ?
Yeah, sorry.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
I came, several times.
Darth Chocula
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I'm really hoping the custom soundtracks are a go for PS4. I'll have to sit down and consider some rockin' tracks and some 80's cheese. I know it'd be easier to pull off on PC but for me MGS feels at home on the Playstation. Same reason I just pulled the trigger on Resident Evil HD for the PS4.
Track #1 | Track #2 | Track #3 | Track #4 |
Track #5 | Track #6 sadly from 1987
I would even accept an audio option to turn down background music. I realized yesterday that Ground Zeroes on PC has no audio options that I could find.
swearing-circle
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I wouldn't say the gameplay spoils too much in regards to plot or anything but I can imagine it would be really awesome experiencing the stuff outlined first hand. If you really want to go in fresh i'd say skip it but at the end of the day I don't think you'd be spoiling too much.
Although, if you don't watch it I do get the impression that you'll be learning new details about mother base over a fair period of time haha.
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