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Metal Gear Community Thread |OT3| The Best is Yet to Come
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Nightengale
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Because he's probably the only journalist/influencer who finished Peace Walker. /s
As good of a reward as any I guess
I've been thinking. I think you could fairly easily write away the 4 plot-holes I think the series still has.
Dr. Clark
Like SIGINT facing racism, just say that Paramedic found that her research was given the most credence when it seemed to be published by a male, so she presents herself as a man in all of her published materials, even to the point where others in the medical community (like Naomi Hunter) assumed that she was a man. Gray Fox could have killed her, and Naomi could have aided Gray Fox's escape, without that coming to light (because he prolly sliced her up pretty bad).
You could also say that she was forced by the (now AI controlled) Patriots to conduct the experiments. Beyond the 2000's it is the malicious AI that are pulling the strings, not Zero.
FOXHOUND -> OUTER HEAVEN -> FOXHOUND? -> OUTER HEAVEN?
I said it before, but I think all it would take is something like the following in an audio tape:
Kaz: Boss, when we thought you'd died I got an unexpected call from a former ally of yours, Campbell. He offered myself and are... remaining comrades refuge within the organisation you set up all those years ago - unofficially, of course. He set us up with with a small rig out in the ocean. It isn't much, but we'll make it enough. Diamond Dogs... our new home.
Meaning that Outer Heaven would essentially be part of FOXHOUND that went rogue. That would make the jumping back and forth make a lot more sense.
Portable Ops
Just frame it as an inaccurate telling of events that actually occurred, that seems to be how Kojima personally sees it. Perhaps tie it into Big Boss' missions becoming public knowledge between MGS2 and MGS4; perhaps it was edited by the Patriots, and that is the version of the story we got to see.
Benedict Kaz(?) McDonnell Miller
Simple one that I expect to happen in The Phantom Pain. Kaz means 'Peace', and Miller no longer represents that, so he sheds his first name and instead goes by what I presume would be the first name of his American father.
Dr. Clark
Like SIGINT facing racism, just say that Paramedic found that her research was given the most credence when it seemed to be published by a male, so she presents herself as a man in all of her published materials, even to the point where others in the medical community (like Naomi Hunter) assumed that she was a man. Gray Fox could have killed her, and Naomi could have aided Gray Fox's escape, without that coming to light (because he prolly sliced her up pretty bad).
You could also say that she was forced by the (now AI controlled) Patriots to conduct the experiments. Beyond the 2000's it is the malicious AI that are pulling the strings, not Zero.
FOXHOUND -> OUTER HEAVEN -> FOXHOUND? -> OUTER HEAVEN?
I said it before, but I think all it would take is something like the following in an audio tape:
Kaz: Boss, when we thought you'd died I got an unexpected call from a former ally of yours, Campbell. He offered myself and are... remaining comrades refuge within the organisation you set up all those years ago - unofficially, of course. He set us up with with a small rig out in the ocean. It isn't much, but we'll make it enough. Diamond Dogs... our new home.
Meaning that Outer Heaven would essentially be part of FOXHOUND that went rogue. That would make the jumping back and forth make a lot more sense.
Portable Ops
Just frame it as an inaccurate telling of events that actually occurred, that seems to be how Kojima personally sees it. Perhaps tie it into Big Boss' missions becoming public knowledge between MGS2 and MGS4; perhaps it was edited by the Patriots, and that is the version of the story we got to see.
Benedict Kaz(?) McDonnell Miller
Simple one that I expect to happen in The Phantom Pain. Kaz means 'Peace', and Miller no longer represents that, so he sheds his first name and instead goes by what I presume would be the first name of his American father.
Nightengale
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My guesses :
Retcon because (I think) Kojima didn't realise until planning MGS3 that without at least one female, the core support team would be a sausagefest.
No clue, but I do think it'll be addressed. Not in the way you think it though.
My guess is Ocelot may bring up the 'events' of PO where he took the balance of the Legacy for the set-up of Patriots, but he'll retell a completely different version of the event that will retcon PO... in a tape.
After events of TPP, part ways with Big Boss, abandons his Kaz nickname because it reminds him of bro-days with Big Boss.
Retcon because (I think) Kojima didn't realise until planning MGS3 that without at least one female, the core support team would be a sausagefest.
No clue, but I do think it'll be addressed. Not in the way you think it though.
My guess is Ocelot may bring up the 'events' of PO where he took the balance of the Legacy for the set-up of Patriots, but he'll retell a completely different version of the event that will retcon PO... in a tape.
After events of TPP, part ways with Big Boss, abandons his Kaz nickname because it reminds him of bro-days with Big Boss.
It's a retcon, but I think it has a pretty good potential explanation.
Yeah, I agree that we'll probably get a different explanation.
Yeah, I could see that happening.
He has to be part of FOXHOUND, so they can't have a total falling out.
MrS
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8 days 9 hours bruh.9 days!!!
yes i'm counting
Hey guys I finally did it
Thanks for the advice on how to S rank Jamais vu.
Nice job, bro. I never have the patience or prolonged interest to actually 100% any game.
Kenzodielocke
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I think I am going to reach my limit when the reviews are up. I can't have so much hype for 8 days.
Nightengale
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Review Embargo Lift
MGSV Launch Trailer Release
Greg Miller's Let's Play
Street Date Breaking Copies Out in the Wild
The next week is going to be a nightmare.
MGSV Launch Trailer Release
Greg Miller's Let's Play
Street Date Breaking Copies Out in the Wild
The next week is going to be a nightmare.
Yeah, but the reviews themselves aren't always.
Yeah, mostly interested on peoples reactions on possible scores that differ from the agreed norm (9.0 or better)
Strazyplus
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ur right
i was counting tuesday lol.
Anyone else setting their alarm to WOOOOHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH on the fateful day?
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Yes, but there is a high chance that some asshole will point out a spoiler out of a review and post it untagged, be aware.
i just like to read the intro, thoughts and score number in a review. never go into it. unless its Rock Paper Shotgun. and even then, i wait till i played the game. Don't want game mechanics spoiled.
CambriaRising
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Rubbing our noses in bloody battlefield dirt...
Here?
Thanks. Ground zeroes was pretty easy to 100% when I finally got around to it. It helps that it's a great game I guess.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Yes, here.
beatdowniidx
Member
it cant come soon enough
He said many times that PW is his best game of all time. He's an awesome human being.
I'll be disappointed if we don't get to OT4 before release
The speed we're going through pages at the minute it's pretty much guaranteed haha.
I'll be disappointed if we don't get to OT4 before release
Standing...
OF THE CRATERRRRR
of the kratos
MrS
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Yeah he's a good guy. I'm glad Kinda Funny got the exclusive. He must have made a good impression when he met Kojima.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
So, the review Embargo is confirmed for 5pm PST and 2am CET (monday).
No what makes you think that?
Kenzodielocke
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Because he's allowed to post his impressions then, no ?
Also, I think he has a review copy. Yongyea and co. were at the review booth and maybe Konami allowed only those people to talk about the game, but not for reviewers that got an actual review copy.
Edit: He confirmed it:
Kenzodielocke
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I guess when the PC version is out. Playstation marketing means most of the time, that they're sending out PS4 copies to review.
From what I read, press and youtubers/community influences were separated at the LA bootcamp event. YTers played a version of the game that did not have the ending and they were not allowed to take their saves home. Potentially other things about the version they played could have been different.
Press played on retail disks on retail PS4s, and were allowed to bring their save files and disks home to finish their progress. Press played FOB invasions during this time, presumably against Konami staff in Japan. There''s more info about it in the gamescom discussion thread in gaming.
Because he's allowed to post his impressions then, no ?
Also, I think he has a review copy. Yongyea and co. were at the review booth and maybe Konami allowed only those people to talk about the game, but not for reviewers that got an actual review copy.
Edit: He confirmed it:
Oh interesting, thanks for the clarification.
Guess that means US and EU have a different embargo lift?
Pretty sure its the same time, however since 8PM ET here is 2AM CET the EU sites are probably not posting them until Monday morning when they get in the office. Just a guess. They might have a different time though, which would be weird.
Kenzodielocke
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The only time where germany and US had a different embargo was when Sony sent wrong times to german reviewers. This could be the case here, but I guess you're right. No normal human being (we're not normal) would read reviews at 2am in the morning ^^
I have a question about GZ
Why does Here's to you play in that moment of the opening and during Paz's torture? I didn't catch the connection between Sacco and Vanzetti and XOF, Skull Face, Chico, Paz and the other elements of that scene. I read there are a few references to them in MGS, but for those moments maybe Kojima just liked Morricone's composition and how the music tied to those images and dialogues?
Once the embargo for reviews (videos) lifts, I will be asking you guys which ones are spoiler free, safe to watch.
It's Paz's favorite song. The story is about two Italian anarchists that are prosecuted & put to death for their beliefs. I think that greatly ties into MGS.
Fuck gawker
It's Paz's favorite song. The story is about two Italian anarchists that are prosecuted & put to death for their beliefs. I think that greatly ties into MGS.
Fuck gawker
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