That seems to be the case with every enemy in the DLC. At points it felt like playing MGR on fast forward, it's quite crazy. Playing Sam is definitely hard mode.
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Metal Gear Rising Jetstream DLC |OT| Show Me A Good Time, Platinum
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That seems to be the case with every enemy in the DLC. At points it felt like playing MGR on fast forward, it's quite crazy. Playing Sam is definitely hard mode.
Maybe taunting enemies is like marking them for Ripper mode vulnerability, since Sam doesn't actually have Ripper mode.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I got a serious Megaman X vibe from this DLC. Sam's differing playstyle (air dash!), his red color scheme as compared to Raiden's blue, exploring the stages for powerups...
Overall, it was quite enjoyable, but I wish
A) The story segments were a little better written and more coherent, although this complaint also applies only a little bit less so to the main game as well. The cutscene after the final boss made nearly no sense to me.
B) It was longer. I loved playing as Sam and I really wish we had more of an opportunity to do so.
C) There was at least one new boss or new area. Or a new music track.
D) It wasn't $10
Other than that, had a blast with it.
Overall, it was quite enjoyable, but I wish
A) The story segments were a little better written and more coherent, although this complaint also applies only a little bit less so to the main game as well. The cutscene after the final boss made nearly no sense to me.
B) It was longer. I loved playing as Sam and I really wish we had more of an opportunity to do so.
C) There was at least one new boss or new area. Or a new music track.
D) It wasn't $10
Other than that, had a blast with it.
mullet2000
Member
I'm pretty sure this is what it does, yeah.
Ok, just finished the DLC on Revengeance in 23 mins. Got the Master of the Wind trophy!
The name of the game when playing as Sam is Taunt and Murder.
Taunting is essential to doing decent damage, it does make enemies ridiculously aggressive though and their attacks do damage even if blocked when in Rage mode.
The Bladewolf fight I did without taunting because parrying was more effective, I think you might be able to parry even when enemies are taunted but if it's possible the frame window is VERY SMALL.
Taunt
otherwise you'll waste ALOT of time trying to kill him.
Run past everything you can and use your items wisely and you'll have more than enough time to do it under 1 hour. Make sure you enter the final boss fight with 5 nanorepair units, the only reason I got through it quickly is because I spent 3 hours trying to no damage him on hard before going through the DLC on Revengeance.
He's definitely much crazier on Revengeance,
No Damage
is the hardest thing in this DLC imo, Revengeance is hard for sure but that No Damage trophy is hell.
I love the way Sam plays, this DLC was definitely worth it even if the price feels a little high, casual players might blast through it and feel it's overpriced but serious players will definitely get their money's worth. Awesome cutscene direction yet again and Sam being less OP than Raiden make this feel different enough from the main game, the extra backstory on Sam is also pretty cool. It definitely feels like a prologue to the main game, would have been amazing as an unlockable after beating the game but as far as DLC stuff goes this is top notch.
Great job P*, can't wait for BladeWolf next month!
What a badass!
The name of the game when playing as Sam is Taunt and Murder.
Taunting is essential to doing decent damage, it does make enemies ridiculously aggressive though and their attacks do damage even if blocked when in Rage mode.
The Bladewolf fight I did without taunting because parrying was more effective, I think you might be able to parry even when enemies are taunted but if it's possible the frame window is VERY SMALL.
Taunt
Metal Gear Ray
Run past everything you can and use your items wisely and you'll have more than enough time to do it under 1 hour. Make sure you enter the final boss fight with 5 nanorepair units, the only reason I got through it quickly is because I spent 3 hours trying to no damage him on hard before going through the DLC on Revengeance.
He's definitely much crazier on Revengeance,
He does 8 reps of the rush punch everytime he starts it instead of 3 at most on Hard, it's ridiculous. Getting good at dodging these is a necessity, no way around it. After all the practice I got on Hard No Damage I could dodge that stuff all day so I took him down quickly. One hit will take off a bar and a half though so you can't fuck up very often.
No Damage
Armstrong
I love the way Sam plays, this DLC was definitely worth it even if the price feels a little high, casual players might blast through it and feel it's overpriced but serious players will definitely get their money's worth. Awesome cutscene direction yet again and Sam being less OP than Raiden make this feel different enough from the main game, the extra backstory on Sam is also pretty cool. It definitely feels like a prologue to the main game, would have been amazing as an unlockable after beating the game but as far as DLC stuff goes this is top notch.
Great job P*, can't wait for BladeWolf next month!
What a badass!
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Agreed... except about the music. If they made a new track and it was anything like the music in the main game, I'd have to rip my ears clean from my head and stuff them into the speakers... or, y'know, just turn the music off; whichever is easier at the time.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Show of hands: Who wants Platinum to do a stand-alone Jetstream Sam spin-off?
Sam's got a holster shaped like a rifle that shoots out his sword for blisteringly fast slashes. How fucking awesome is that? How has no one thought of that before?
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
At the end of a full-power quick draw he blows the sheath like it's a smoking gun. That is the very definition of cool.
They finally got gunblades right
SkyTurnsRed
Banned
Can't wait to dig into this when I get home today. I'm really excited that the impressions have been so positive.
matrix-cat
Member
Just went up on the Australian PSN at $14.45. God dammit, Sony.
Aww for fuck's sake.
...fuck it I'll still get it.
edit: VV Every playthough I skip all the cutscenes except that one, because it's so goddamn awesome.
DecoyOctopus
Member
Oh god yes.
And make him become Sam from Vanquish in this spinoff linking both games.
BOOOOOOM
matrix-cat
Member
Let me blow your mind: BUDDY COP GAME.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Will buy because I'm weak, but fuck price gouging. Eat shit Konami/Sony/whoever.
Sam & Sam Hit the Road.
Well, more like rocketslide across it but same difference.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Would GAF like a co-op campaign in this game?
Napalm_Frank
Member
10 sounds kinda expensive... I guess I'll grab it anyway just to have a complete game *sigh*.
How long is the story portion?
How long is the story portion?
matrix-cat
Member
JetSam and FlotSam... no, wait, come back to me.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Jesusgodyes
Dreamer RD
Member
Finished in 17:20 on easy and was owned like a bitch
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I'm stuck on
. Swine won't give me any openings... plenty of hand cramps, though.
Armstrong's third phase
Pretty sure it's the same as Raiden (200% life, and as many fuel cells). That's how far I got, anyway, and I don't expect anything beyond that.
call_kotaku
Member
Sam can't cancel a parry into a dodge like Raiden can, but I'm 50% sure he can cancel a dodge into a parry, though his dodge is so fast I can't confirm. You can't use his cartwheels like you use Raiden's dodge slash, though, since the window for invulnerability is much shorter, there's no attack component (you can't stagger sword cyborgs or cut GRAD missiles with it like you can with Raiden's), and there's no dodge offset. His parry window is different from Raiden's, I'm almost sure, since I'm eating mastiff dropkicks repeatedly (shoutouts to VR03) because I'm using Raiden's timing for perfect parrying it. I think everything needs to be parried earlier with Sam, but I don't know how to confirm this.
Also, you can cancel move charging with ninja run, though I don't know how useful it is.
Also, you can cancel move charging with ninja run, though I don't know how useful it is.
Jesus Christ, that's what I thought. The TRUE
D: Good fucking luck getting no damage on this asshole with how little damage you do and the aggressive AI.
Shadow Ranger
Member
I don't think I will No Damage this. I found the fights tricky even on Normal *sigh*
And screw 3 Mastiffs in the dark. Who's genius idea was that?! The underground bit in the main game was bearable but that VR Mission...come on. As if Mastiffs weren't annoying as they are, tccchhhhh.
Post-credit scene is so awesome. Like, seriously awesome...
And screw 3 Mastiffs in the dark. Who's genius idea was that?! The underground bit in the main game was bearable but that VR Mission...come on. As if Mastiffs weren't annoying as they are, tccchhhhh.
Post-credit scene is so awesome. Like, seriously awesome...
Well, thankfully you don't need to do the VR missions or gold them. You can simply skip them (though it makes the mission slightly harder with less health and fuel cells). I haven't found a reason to use the FC's outside of blade mode canceling to be honest.
And frankly the no-damage doesn't seem that bad if you could dodge their attacks and get some decent damage on them. As said: Taunting/Ripper Mode-on seems like the smartest move, but dodging their attacks seems impossible. That stupid flaming charge attack is bullshit because you can dodge the first side have the camera track them but can't dodge the second at all.
It took me like 2 hours (or close to 3 with me trying to no-damage until I said "fuck it, this seems impossible to do") to complete it on Hard and I got a final grade of C like my initial Hard Raiden run. So for people worrying about it being too short: Start on Hard or Revengeance and fumble through it like I did because it's pretty damn hard on Hard.
And frankly the no-damage doesn't seem that bad if you could dodge their attacks and get some decent damage on them. As said: Taunting/Ripper Mode-on seems like the smartest move, but dodging their attacks seems impossible. That stupid flaming charge attack is bullshit because you can dodge the first side have the camera track them but can't dodge the second at all.
It took me like 2 hours (or close to 3 with me trying to no-damage until I said "fuck it, this seems impossible to do") to complete it on Hard and I got a final grade of C like my initial Hard Raiden run. So for people worrying about it being too short: Start on Hard or Revengeance and fumble through it like I did because it's pretty damn hard on Hard.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Hard enough on Normal for me.
Neuromancer
Member
So should I buy it?
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
It's fairly expensive for what it is. It's about an hour or so long (Arguably. It's dependent on skill level, I guess). Sam is very different from Raiden in a very good way. You can't access the VR missions seperately (but that kind of works). It's pretty hard even on normal.
I guess it depends on how much you like the base game.
Beat it on hard in 2 hours. Really enjoyed it and Sam indeed plays a lot different despite blade mode and Zan Datsu borrowed from Raiden. I'm sill not quite used to it, especially quick draw but it feels damn good. Also really happy to see Monsoon get more scenes.
Sucks that it ends with a
. I really want to know what happens next.
Sucks that it ends with a
to be continued
lol
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I don't like how Sam plays at all so far.
This is disappointing
He has no moves compared to Raiden
This is disappointing
He has no moves compared to Raiden
Augemitbutter
Member
9.99 are harsh.
those are some dirty exchange rates you have going there konami/platinum.
those are some dirty exchange rates you have going there konami/platinum.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
That's a shame. I really enjoyed him once I got the hang of him (even then I was still getting pummeled. Repeatedly. Over and over. Cos I'm crap).
It's all about combos that leas to the different Quick-Draws. Oh, and the Taunt, I guess.