I just try to get Aerial parries on the Gekkos, either that or perfect parry their jump attack. The timing is tight with Sam but it's fun to pull off.
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Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance PC Version |OT| Violence Breeds Violence
- Thread starter ScraftyDevil
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I just try to get Aerial parries on the Gekkos, either that or perfect parry their jump attack. The timing is tight with Sam but it's fun to pull off.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I'd do away with Rising's ranking system before I'd add penalties for using items. That would be weird in a Metal Gear game which I don't think has ever penalized players for using game breaking items.
I'm actually a little disappointed in the effort PG puts into their items. There's this whole mixing system and the game wants you to mix over 100 times but the items are all kinda similar and the game penalizes you for using some of the more interesting ones. Like why put them in the game if you're gonna discourage players from using them?
It's pretty great in Bayonetta I feel minus a few accessory over sights.
Problem is that they keep making games in that same style of Bayonetta without being Bayonetta. I think ranks are pretty boring in 101 as well and ranking in Rising is probably the least enjoyable way to play it for me.
Rather than focus on balancing them I'd like to see them move away from the linear ranked fight game structure in the future. Honestly I'm kind of tired of it.
Is it even possible to S rank it without it?
I don't know. When I saw that you had to kill a GRAD with a turret I was like "yeah nope" and put on my wig.
corrosivefrost
Member
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOUUUUUUUUUUU
Why? This fight was bullshit.
No damage?
That's mighty impressive.
I think it is.
I know when I did it on PS3, I didn't get no-damage... I think it was all about the other factors... I might have done no kills + only killing the far away enemies and the grad with the turret.
Based on the FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUU and the fact that he went for no damage, it's on Revengeance.
Yeah. What difficulty was that on?
I never got the no-damage bonus for that fight, since it's pretty simple to get an S-rank as long as you manage to actually finish the fight.
MickeyKnox
Member
Revengeance
Press start menu: UUDDLRLRSelectStart->file->Chapter->Select chapter on Revengence->Checkpoint. Done.
corrosivefrost
Member
Sam or Raiden?
On Revengeance mode?
I dunno about well played, but this was a trailer showcasing the fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD8dDSMSEbM
EDIT: Shit, double post and can't delete. =\
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I'd imagine no damaging the turret fight involves alot of memorization and EMP/RP Grenade abuse with Infinite Wig
Wouldn't need to No Damage though if you just beat it under 10 minutes, which is the time requirement for the fight. Lol
In fact I'm not sure you needed it with your points as is. I think you only need like 4000 for the S rank of that fight. It's bullshit but the ranking is extremely lenient as a result
Edit: it's 4500, so subtract 1500 from your final score and lol
Wouldn't need to No Damage though if you just beat it under 10 minutes, which is the time requirement for the fight. Lol
In fact I'm not sure you needed it with your points as is. I think you only need like 4000 for the S rank of that fight. It's bullshit but the ranking is extremely lenient as a result
Edit: it's 4500, so subtract 1500 from your final score and lol
Raiden, please!
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Your end-game rank was lowered by using special items since MGS2 actually.
I don't agree with the removal of rankings altogether. Even with the questionable balance in some of their games I still love going for ranks, I would be really disappointed if they were removed honestly.
They just need to create a better structure surrounding them, DMC has you go through a 20-30 minute chunk of gameplay with no crutches before you get ranked. In P* games you feel like you have to game the system by restarting and messing around with save files because the game doesn't let you consistently retry, sometimes it just autosaves and screws you over the second you find out that you were off by 100 points and got an A rank instead of an S. Just let me restart endlessly then because you know that's what people are going to do anyway, that's the way your game is designed.
They don't even let you see the requirements for the missions. In Rising atleast you know that going for No Damage and Zandatsus will probably be good enough but in 101 you need the Pure Platinum on time and there's no way to know what the requirement is beforehand. Sometimes they want you to drag the fight out and extract alot of combo points out of enemies and sometimes they want you to just kill as quickly as possible.
Again, they just need better transparency and balance. If you make a game where every encounter is ranked and you expect players to keep retrying then just let them retry. If you want players to go through the entire chapter without restarting then block them from doing so but make it fair. I love going for S Rank but I really hope they work on that aspect of their games in the future.
MickeyKnox
Member
I can't type out what it involves because my keyboard broke and I'm stuck using the on screen keyboard till i get a new one tomorrow, but in short, yes. Which is why it's not very fun, 0 margin for error using the janky subweapon system.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Ah I see. Haven't played it in a while
It wasn't in Peace Walker though which is probably why I was confused.
Now that I think about it though Peace Walker was pretty close in structure to Rising/PG games.
and I hated it
God man I can't imagine even trying to do that.
You aren't on point and kill certain enemies as soon as they spawn and your run is ruined.
Probably the hardest thing anyone has done in this thread for the game.
Congratulations man and I'm sorry lol
corrosivefrost
Member
Yes. I did a chunk of my revengeance fights as no kill instead of no damage -- some of them are just easier that way.
I don't recall my exact strategy on that fight, but I know it didn't require no damage -- though, now that I think about it, you can't no kill that fight... so it was just +1000 for each category instead.
Robot Pants
Member
I did the exact same thing. No shame here at all either.
Yeah the lobby assault is by far the worst section in the game to S-rank. Just fucking unfun.
At best he's like the cerebral palsy version of Bayonetta. There's just so little variety to him, and Raiden already had a short movelist for the genre. His moves come out so slow too, and it sucks that you don't have the awesome sword combos from his boss fight.
At best he's like the cerebral palsy version of Bayonetta. There's just so little variety to him, and Raiden already had a short movelist for the genre. His moves come out so slow too, and it sucks that you don't have the awesome sword combos from his boss fight.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
The Battle Cries and Stealth Camo still prevented you from getting an S Rank. Everything else was fair game though, even the bandana.
well yeah, he is a dlc character as opposed to the title of a game character. Can't even equip different weapons.
Does suck you don't have his complete moveset from his bossfight. Barehanded Sam, or that explosive run combo Sam.
I'm also annoyed you can't mission select the bladewolf bossfights for either Raiden or Sam.
Does suck you don't have his complete moveset from his bossfight. Barehanded Sam, or that explosive run combo Sam.
I'm also annoyed you can't mission select the bladewolf bossfights for either Raiden or Sam.
MickeyKnox
Member
Thing is now burned into my muscle memory so I can do it again and record a video for it, the two shitty parts of the fight are the non predictable ones, ie the Mastiff warp jump (they can actually teleport directly on you through geometry) and the camera switching to track a different part of the GRAD fucking your em stun lock by a split second allowing it to get a shot off. Both no biggie for S rank but rage inducing for no damage
ambientmystic
Member
Was wondering about that too. Is he not considered a legitimate boss encounter? He has his own theme music (I'm my own master - time to leave 'em all behind) and all, and everytime you wanna take him on you have to start that whole chapter again.
The GRAD (? - Boss you fight en route to rescuing those kids in Mexico) is another strangely missing boss fight that could've been in the "boss select" mode.
ColonelSkills
Member
Wow, what an epic pissoff.
No damaged Monsoon, but the game didn't give me the credit.
I even went back and checked my shadowplay recording, and I wasn't hit once. Game just refuses to give me the bonus, and of course with the 10% checkpoint, I can't reload it, and have to redo the ENTIRE chapter to get the no damage in all fights in that chapter I was going for.
Pretty frustrating to be honest.
No damaged Monsoon, but the game didn't give me the credit.
I even went back and checked my shadowplay recording, and I wasn't hit once. Game just refuses to give me the bonus, and of course with the 10% checkpoint, I can't reload it, and have to redo the ENTIRE chapter to get the no damage in all fights in that chapter I was going for.
Pretty frustrating to be honest.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Maybe I'm blind, but where's that boss mode?
Damn at Sundown. I figured out the right stick for the slice a bit too late, but I restarted the fight and owned him on the second run. Monsoon was easy pie and the chick (forgot the damned name) was pretty damn badass but easy as well. Sundown proved to be a real challenge at least .
.Either use Konami Code or beat main game and both DLCs. Then when you go to chapter option you can pick the bosses.
MickeyKnox
Member
Did you ever die while attempting it? It will count that against you
corrosivefrost
Member
Yup.
I learned this the hard way back with my time spent on the PS3 version -- I did all those fights on Revengeance to save a playthrough, so it was easy to fuck up, take a hit, and die before I could retry. :\
After that, I would do a lot of copying of save files, especially before the boss fights on revengeance so I wouldn't have to s-rank the whole chapter again if I fucked up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3bHENs9-2A
Here you go.
Boo at you two for justifying items, booooooooooooooo!
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Can you equip the nanopaste and it will still be there if you reload the checkpoint? Just so if you somehow die while going for no hits, you can still reload the checkpoint after the paste.
Yeah I went halfway through without knowing what dodge was. Oh well.
corrosivefrost
Member
In theory, yes.
However, I never usually equip recovery items, so I cannot confirm.
toastyToast
Member
I'm guessing that's to do with his cybernetic arm. Sam is
all man in the DLC
The dashing slash should have been his running charge move instead of the projectile though
corrosivefrost
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6fFM6K5hoI
Better video as there is no parrying and the flow is better.
Better video as there is no parrying and the flow is better.
Matt and Pat definitely need to do more character action let's plays. I think I have the most fun with those. Their Killer is Dead playthrough was pretty good.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Definitely. Moments like this are what made those videos so much fun to watch.
If only Woolie, the best Best Friend, were a part of the main playthrough...
The Sam fight is so hype. They're so amazed by the whole thing.
Did Platinum happen to fix their barf-y system/results data in the PC version? I remember being really turned off when I found out that in order to obtain/unlock certain titles that my final results/ranking screen would be wiped. I sort of felt bad for people who went for that nice S-rank spreadsheet first. I didn't get too involved with S-ranking each difficulty back on my PS3 copy because I quickly learned that you essentially had to "wipe" your saved/results data. And yeah, I've said it before, but I too think Platinum's ranking/scoring systems are a little out-of-whack sometimes. There's too much checkpoint abuse in all of their games (even games you wouldn't even think of like Vanquish). Wonderful 101 had that problem too. The last game I thoroughly enjoyed S-ranking was DMC4. I don't feel like Platinum has figured out that shit perfectly yet.