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Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance PC Version |OT| Violence Breeds Violence
- Thread starter ScraftyDevil
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I don't know if you can rush em but you can definitely select them. I can't check at the moment.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Wow.
You canthis DLC2 bosssneak attack
Yeah, that boss fight is pretty good.
I don't see any second boxes on my Chapter select.
One thing I will say about MGR that I haven't said about it before.
MGR might not be the best action game released this gen.... but it's easily the most "next gen". I am talking of course coming from the PS2 gen to the PS3/360. Pretty much every action game this gen had been like a straight upgrade over stuff like NGB and DMC3 without really going the extra level of interactivity. Between Blade mode and Zandatsu, MGR really takes hack n slash to a new level. There is no action game which you can accurately cut up enemy parts like that. Going forward, MGR2 has the most potential with next gen hardware.
When I first played the game I thought the whole Zandatsu thing was a gimmick that would get old quick. Even after playing through Revengeance on console, I get satisfaction from pulling off a Zandatsu in a clutch moment because that shit is earned. Hell I even pop off by doing the Zandatsu hand crush synchronized with Raiden!
MGR might not be the best action game released this gen.... but it's easily the most "next gen". I am talking of course coming from the PS2 gen to the PS3/360. Pretty much every action game this gen had been like a straight upgrade over stuff like NGB and DMC3 without really going the extra level of interactivity. Between Blade mode and Zandatsu, MGR really takes hack n slash to a new level. There is no action game which you can accurately cut up enemy parts like that. Going forward, MGR2 has the most potential with next gen hardware.
When I first played the game I thought the whole Zandatsu thing was a gimmick that would get old quick. Even after playing through Revengeance on console, I get satisfaction from pulling off a Zandatsu in a clutch moment because that shit is earned. Hell I even pop off by doing the Zandatsu hand crush synchronized with Raiden!
matrix-cat
Member
Revengeance tier:
Hot Wind Blowing
It Has to Be This Way
I'm My Own Master Now (dat flamenco intro)
RULES OF NATURE tier:
A Stranger I Remain
The Only Thing I Know For Real
The Stains of Time
Rules of Nature
Nanomachines, son tier:
Red Sun
Collective Consciousness
Hot Wind Blowing
It Has to Be This Way
I'm My Own Master Now (dat flamenco intro)
RULES OF NATURE tier:
A Stranger I Remain
The Only Thing I Know For Real
The Stains of Time
Rules of Nature
Nanomachines, son tier:
Red Sun
Collective Consciousness
Did you not use the Konami code? I guess it's locked until you beat the game then.
You can select them but it isn't a Boss Rush. And if you use the Konami Code it doesn't unlock all the weapons for that "chapter" since it's basically fast-forwarding you to that point. Anything you have/haven't unlocked in the main-game is locked/unlocked on that file in turn. So no Pincer Blades if you haven't unlocked them yet for Monsoons Battle, for instance.
I didn't use the Konami code, but I did beat the game on Hard. I wonder how you unlock them normally.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Pulling off multi zandatsus always feels so good.
Nannomachines son listed as a bottom tier?
Son I am disappoint..
Son I am disappoint..
Has anyone done a quad Zandatsu?? I have only done a triple.
matrix-cat
Member
Just giving the so-called 'bottom' tier the respect it truly deserves.
I haven't beaten it yet, but I used the Konami code (since I already beat it twice on PS3), so I can confirm that unlocks them.
If you're not seeing the second set of boxes, which should be below the two you may be thinking you can press up/down to select the mode. But no, you need to press left-right like you're selecting a chapter and the chapter after R-00 or DLC2 will be the Bosses chapter selection.
Damn someone actually did a quadruple Zandatsu!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJxTkstFL0Q&sns=em
I wonder if you can do quintuple Zandatsu.. I would stop playing the game because I would've "won" the game if I did it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJxTkstFL0Q&sns=em
I wonder if you can do quintuple Zandatsu.. I would stop playing the game because I would've "won" the game if I did it.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Blade Mode is easily the best swordplay mechanic ever IMO. It would be absolutely amazing in a realistic samurai game where parries and defense played a huge part and death came quickly when hit.
And yes, it would benefit immensely from a sequel on the new consoles.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Aw yeah, Apollo Justice himself agrees with my list!
The guitar riff during the chorus of Hot Wind Blowing is incredible. Makes me do this every time.
Yep. There's a spot in MIssion 2 that's perfect for it. Right before the
dwarf gecko DOOMP segment
Would very much like to know this as well.
Permanently A
Junior Member
I said damn.
Polioliolio
Member
Maybe it's too open.. If it were smaller, I'd at least know when exactly the right moment is rather than being vague.
Another thing about parrying I want to know more about is that quicktime L Trigger button prompt that pops up. Do I press that immediately or what? The prompt lingers there for awhile and I'm wondering if I should press it immediately or wait till the prompt is done animating.. I felt like I had to hit it again before the prompt would go away... Or does it go away by itself as long as you pressed it?
I've also had a couple goofy moments where I start the slashing event, but the character didn't fly up to the spot he was going to go to.. Maybe because I pressed it twice trying to activate it?
Oh, and are there attacks you can't parry? Right after the tutorial, you're basically in a big boss battle,. and I had no idea if parrying would be effective.. No hint prompt or suggestion by the other character.
Only played for about a half hour earlier today, but will put more time into it soon.
Seems funnish, I just want to know exactly what I'm doing right off the bat.
matrix-cat
Member
For me it's mainly because it's associated with the least memorable of the main bossfights, and the moment when the vocals kick in just doesn't compete with 'RULES OF NATURE' or 'TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIIIIIND'. I still think it's pretty good, though.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
The White Armor lets you carry additional nanopaste, which is useful if you find yourself losing to bosses a lot.
The Inferno and Commando Armor let you carry more grenades and RPG/Stinger ammo respectively, but they're not very useful considering how good some of the other armors are.
The Red, Blue and Yellow Armor increase strength, defense and Blade Mode respectively, while gimping one of the other two stats.
The Suit looks super snazzy and should be the only armor you wear.
Hmmm... wonder how to unlock directly? I should probably just Konami code it since I finished the game four or five times on PS3, but i kinda want to know how to unlock it 'properly'.
Yeah, I just did a quick runthrough two chapters on normal and murdered everyone without trying. Though that was with an ungraded sword, so who knows
Holy shhhhhhit this is awesome. Thanks for linking.
So there's no actual boss rush mode, just boss selecting? :S
Captain Jack
Banned
You misspelled Mariachi outfit.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
God damn, this took me a while because of VR mission 4.
direct_quote
Member
If next gen is a series of button prompts than count me out. Blade mode was a very unique feature but zandetsu really nullified any fun I had with it. It makes Blade mode more of a grind for health or a way to finish off enemies faster. I would have preferred if it was just the latter, because it was certainly fun cutting off the arms of the heavier armor characters as a fighting tactic. Hell zandetsu would have been ok if the animation wasn't so long or if the spines weren't in everything. Really brings down the game..
Also the level design was not close to this gen or next gen and was too linear for a Metal Gear game. You could really tell PG was grinding out that game at the speed of light towards the end because the later levels all felt very flat and dull..
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I mean parry and counter, not just block.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
I wonder what it would sound like if Raiden started a Mariachi band with Bladewolf and Sam?
Knowing this game, probably something like this.
Don't thiink you can parry-counter the hammer guys... at least I haven't found a reliable way.
Correct, unless there's some mode that's locked from the Konami code it's just boss-selection for the chapter.
It's even more awesome when you do multiple zandatsus with Sam because he has multiple spines on his sword before crushing them.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Zandatsu and blade mode get written off as gimmicks because they aren't absolutely integral to completing the game outside of QTEs. All the scripted blade mode moments could've been entirely QTE if that's what Platinum wanted. There are a few advantages to using blade mode well, yet you can cheese a lot of moments (randomly slashing to get spines, avoiding removing
Sundowner
However, the game approaches 1-to-1 ratio between player input and in-game result which goes such a long way in making the action tangible to the player. Even though the player has to soften up enemies before being able to slice them up, they still get proper feedback from in-game objects/enemies reacting appropriately to their input.
This game's concept had the opposite problem Ryse does; your sword slices everything up, so how you build a compelling game around that? Right now, blade mode is a great addition to the gameplay. Platinum managed to see that idea through to fruition from when it was still a KojiPro project. Still, there's more that could be done with it.
There's only one segment that calls for using blade mode outside of a QTE (the GRAD atop the bridge in Denver). More situations like that would be great. Having fights that require accurate cuts would be risky since it could end up being frustrating like the (optional) QTEs in MGR:R's final fight. Having the ability to topple structures in specific ways in order to change the tide of battle would be most welcome. Slice open a gas truck then slash the ground to create sparks which ignite it, bringing a roof down on top of enemies, block paths with debris, and so forth.
Imagine a cross between Red Faction Guerrilla and the first MGR. It's difficult to make good use of interesting game mechanics in single player games, but I still have high hopes.
I don't understand what you mean. Did you just not like how long the zandatsu animation took?
FTFY.
Net_Wrecker
Member
This all sounds great, but I'm not sure how feasible some of those ideas would be in an over the top fast paced action game like Rising. There's certainly more that could be done with precision cutting, but tactical stuff like you're talking about here seems more fitting for a heavier, slower paced Seven Samurai adaption or something.
Good point
Disappointing but at least that's there lol.
...Maybe if we beg and plead enough they'll add a boss rush mode in, it can't be that hard to set up D:...
I don't get boss select but I wasn't allowed to finish the DLC either. Weird. I think you have to finish Raiden's story first for those to register as complete.
Spring-Loaded
Member
stop that. stop making me want games I didn't know I wanted that will never exist
Well, this is just "fast-forwarding" you through the levels. I'm sure since MGS2's Boss Rush did a similar thing it's theoretically possible to have the levels be "linked" together via a small code-snippet to load these boss-chapter hooks one after the other.