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Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance PC Version |OT| Violence Breeds Violence
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AcceptableGhost
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EvilKatarn
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Prodigal Murder indeed
Hold on, there's dents and stuff on the Muramasa? That is so damn cool.
Are these downsampled?
With taunting, he goes down in less than two minutes if you use your charge attacks right. Not really a grind.
A Sentient Keyboard
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Alright, I have been playing this for an hour or two and it's exactly as spectacular and silly and awesome as I'd hoped. However, I don't think I really understand how the combat works. Could someone please explain some things to me?
- Sometimes enemies or objects have a light blue overlay. What does this mean?
- Sometimes enemies have an arrow pointing towards them with some Japanese letter or emblem. What does this mean?
- What does 'FC' mean, and what is 'zandatsu'?
- Doktor asked me to cut off left arms to collect ID tags. I think I've been doing this, but I can't find how many I've collected (if at all) and where I can trade them for upgrades. Or do only specific enemies have ID tags?
- Sometimes enemies or objects have a light blue overlay. What does this mean?
- Sometimes enemies have an arrow pointing towards them with some Japanese letter or emblem. What does this mean?
- What does 'FC' mean, and what is 'zandatsu'?
- Doktor asked me to cut off left arms to collect ID tags. I think I've been doing this, but I can't find how many I've collected (if at all) and where I can trade them for upgrades. Or do only specific enemies have ID tags?
Anything light blue means it can be cut, same with the tiny japanese text. The tiny japanese text actually says zandatsu, and it means using blade mode to rip out the blue organ. Only specefic enemies with light blue glowing hands can be used for upgrades. Use AR vision to figure them out.
SargerusBR
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AcceptableGhost
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Here's my post for beginners that answers some of your questions:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=96659879&postcount=3266
FC = Fuel Cell Gauge. This is what you use for Blade Mode in order to get Zandatsu.
You can see how many ID tag arms you've selected in the Collection on the main menu, I believe. After you've collected enough arms, things automatically get added to your Customize menu. Enemies with arms will have a small flashing box on them in AR mode (up on d-pad).
This means they can be cut in blade mode.
I believe this means they have a segment that is armor broken and can be cut in blade-mode.
Fuel Cell. This is used for Blade-Mode. Zandatsu is when you rip out the spine of an enemy.
Specific enemies have the I.D.s. You can see which ones have it by pressing Up on the DPAD to activate AR view, it shows up as a green flashing diamond.
MickeyKnox
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I hope someone manages to get access to the texture files because as much as I love Gray Fox I was always partial to his secondary color scheme:
A Sentient Keyboard
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Thanks! EDIT: and the other answers too!
One more thing: what exactly determines wether blade mode will be the 'normal' version (where you can only control the direction of your slashes) or the 'special' version that slows down time and allows you to slice enemies apart and take their electrolytes? I know it uses the special version after you kill an enemy, or when you do a special execution or stealth kill, but it also activates on other times. What am I missing here?
EDIT: Does it use the special version if I'm near a 'zandatsuable' enemy? Is that it?
It means you can go into blade mode and cut those parts off. So if an enemy's arms are blue, you can cut off their arms. If their whole body is blue, chop them to bits!
It means you can Zandatsu them.
FC is fuel cells - the energy for your blade mode meter, the one below your health. Only when this is full enough to be glowing blue (or later, red), you can go into slow motion when you use blade mode. Zandatsu is going into blade mode, cutting an enemy's spine out, and grabbing it to replenish your health and FC.
Only certain enemies have them - you'll see their left arms glow in blade mode if they do. They unlock wigs only after you beat the game, which are basically cheats (infinite blade mode, infinite sub weapon ammo, etc.). You can view how many IDs you've collected on the main menu under Collection.
It was awesome throughout, but I don't remember all the story details or anything. I don't know how many volumes it was, but there were six episodes.
AcceptableGhost
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This game seems to be selling pretty well on PC? High on the top sellers since launch, high activity in the Steam forum, was in the daily deal during Christmas. I have to assume it has made a profit already.
If this doesn't make SEGA want to port Bayo they're beyond saving.
Hopefully. It dropped to the fourth spot on the Best Sellers, behind Torchlight II that's currently on sale for 75% off, but it's otherwise been in the top 5 since being available for pre-order, I think.
Hopefully MGR2 is locked in tight now.
It's the change in playstyle and the more aggressive enemies that throw people off. His regular attacks are way weaker than Raiden's (which makes sense), so people that try to play him like Raiden get blown up.
You can only enter slow-mo Blade Mode if your FC Gauge is blue (full). It also gives you gauge for free if you do a stealth kill or a special button prompt on stunned enemies. Your gauge will drain as you're in the mode, however a successful Zandatsu will completely replenish both your FC gauge and your health.
What part is giving you trouble? The final boss really isn't bad, and a lot of people have given good advice the past couple pages.
I'm surprised people are having *that* much trouble with the final boss, especially after Sundowner. Although I guess players could've skipped the cutting phase for him. Regardless, Armstrong definitely took me the longest, but mainly because I wasn't abusing the dodge enough, and I couldn't figure out how to break his healing (I tried to cut the beam, and not his back).
I absolutely loved that they stepped up doggy in the DLC. Shin BladeWolf is great.
Final boss da best. Finished him with no damage on Revengance.
Basically he is Defensive Offense the fight.
AcceptableGhost
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I get the feeling that people who have huge trouble with the Senator are probably people who went through the game without using the dodge move a lot (or maybe even at all). I guess I can't blame them, its never really required on your first playthrough even though its absurdly useful and powerful. Platinum probably should have been more upfront and started the player with the move and had it right along the parry tutorial.
Sams blade is called the Murasama.
The reason that was given that it's called this is that it was an ancient sword handed down through the generations of the rodriguez family, however they're not Japanese so the Rodriguez's fugged up the translation. Thus, Murasama.
Polioliolio
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If I want to block bullets, do I HAVE to be running?
I figured I could just hold the Ninja Run Trigger and he'd deflect the bullets, even if not running.. I don't think that's the case though.
Fighting that helicopter was a pain in the ass.. Camera and controls just seem a bit janky. I was canceling the missiles by parrying, but the bullets would still hit.. It flew off as soon as I ran up to it, and since the platforms were all destroyed, there was no way I could just run up and hit it. I had to retry so that the platforms came back, and got its health down much quicker that way.. Problem was that the quick time type thing that was telling me to Ninja Run the missiles kept popping up, .. either while I was already ninja running or it'd pop up and it just didn't work as intended.. It's hard to go to loose but demanding gameplay like this after playing nothing but Dark Souls for so long, which is always precise and understood.
I felt a bit like a badass taking on that jaguar AI thing though, once I understood his attack patterns.
So I feel like I could really get into this game, but I want to understand it well, and not be frustrated when things aren't working as I think they ought to be working.
Up until a little while ago, I thought the red flash on an enemy meant it was time to attempt a parry... but that simply indicates an enemy is going to be attacking in the next 1-5 seconds or more.. it's not what I though it was. .. Sort of wish this stuff was spelled out a bit more.
The window to block is huge, but the window for doing a parry attack is difficult to figure out.
Question... What's the difference between a red flash on an enemy and a yellow flash on an enemy?
I figured I could just hold the Ninja Run Trigger and he'd deflect the bullets, even if not running.. I don't think that's the case though.
Fighting that helicopter was a pain in the ass.. Camera and controls just seem a bit janky. I was canceling the missiles by parrying, but the bullets would still hit.. It flew off as soon as I ran up to it, and since the platforms were all destroyed, there was no way I could just run up and hit it. I had to retry so that the platforms came back, and got its health down much quicker that way.. Problem was that the quick time type thing that was telling me to Ninja Run the missiles kept popping up, .. either while I was already ninja running or it'd pop up and it just didn't work as intended.. It's hard to go to loose but demanding gameplay like this after playing nothing but Dark Souls for so long, which is always precise and understood.
I felt a bit like a badass taking on that jaguar AI thing though, once I understood his attack patterns.
So I feel like I could really get into this game, but I want to understand it well, and not be frustrated when things aren't working as I think they ought to be working.
Up until a little while ago, I thought the red flash on an enemy meant it was time to attempt a parry... but that simply indicates an enemy is going to be attacking in the next 1-5 seconds or more.. it's not what I though it was. .. Sort of wish this stuff was spelled out a bit more.
The window to block is huge, but the window for doing a parry attack is difficult to figure out.
Question... What's the difference between a red flash on an enemy and a yellow flash on an enemy?
EvilKatarn
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I even checked the goddamn wiki!
Yes, you have to be Ninja Running. Though you can also parry bullets.
Yellow (orange?) flash usually indicates an unblockable attack that you need to dodge. The dodge, defensive offense, needs to be purchased from the shop for 3,000 BP. You can also just Ninja Run away.
Die in like 3 hits, need to get the cutting right on you just die, it's stupid how the game suddenly spikes in difficulty.
direct_quote
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Someone should mod in Sam's moveset into Raiden's main game, then I'd definitely buy the PC version (even though I could barely run the game). He has the mobility I wanted to see with Raiden (360-degree dodge + double jump and air dash).
Rising is not Metal Gear Solid. Matrix shit should not have been in MGS1.
Every single attack has a huge indicator beforehand. If you're not using Defensive Offense, you need to. If you're really bad at cutting things, just dodge it by Ninja Running towards him.
SargerusBR
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Skip the cutting part and just run under the debris he throws.
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That's like saying someone who like the Acid games should be perfectly fine if Kojima announced MGSV would be like that.
LOL epic fail...
Alternatively: you only have to line up three of the four squares to cut successfully.
AcceptableGhost
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I hope to one day have all of Platinum's games ontop of my Desktop wallpaper.
Sir Ilpalazzo
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All of the Jetstream bosses are fantastic. I think I would take turbo Bladewolf or Ray over just about every boss from the main game.
Not going to sit and bang my head against a wall for a few hours because the game has a terrible difficulty curve.
AcceptableGhost
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maybe your just terrible?