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Metal Gear Solid 4 |OT| No Place to Hide, No Time for a Legend to FoxDie
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Was anyone else jumping out of their seats when (ending spoilers, don't highlight unless you beat the game)
when snake couldn't do it and big boss showed up. that whole part was done great, I thought snake was dead was 20 min and I'll be lieing if i said my eyes didn't water. Also, did anyone notice that Kojima was credited as god in the credits 
revolverjgw
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I got teary-eyed when Otacon said
''Snake... had a hard life''. Then Sunny fun of me.
Vyse The Legend
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Unlocked the bandanna and stealth camo. Messing with enemies while cloaked is awesome.
Oh, and the
rocks.
Oh, and the
Solar gun
CosmicGroinPull
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mackaveli said:
so were eva, ocelot and naomi working together the whole time? and everything ocelot did was just misdirection?
GauntletFan
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tha_con said:
What's the point of crap like this, except to stir up trouble?
CosmicGroinPull said:
Ocelot and EVA were in it together for a very long time. Ocelot brought Naomi on to work on the virus that Sunny completed--FOXALIVE. Ocelot disconnects from EVA some time before MGS2 though. Not even EVA knew about his deception.
For the record, Sunny communicated to Naomi that she finished the virus through Raiden in Act IV. "I cooked them right," is not a reference to eggs.
For the record, Sunny communicated to Naomi that she finished the virus through Raiden in Act IV. "I cooked them right," is not a reference to eggs.
Danne-Danger
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So awesome. :lolY2Kev said:For everyone to enjoy! (listen to the latest 1up yours for reference)
Roude Leiw
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i finished the game. all i can say is
;_;
;_;
How do I pat enemies down? I've managed to hold a few of them up but they just stand there while I aim my gun at them, and even the holdup thing feels a little inconsistent, all I need to do is aim my gun at them? Does it have to be from a certain distance for Snake to finally say "freeze"?
Heh, I just went back to a savegame in Act 3 (including waiting for re-install time) just to check if the last sequence was real-time, and all I had to do was to read this last page. :lol
The constantly smooth frame-rate gave it away. Pity. Still, after the
(Act 3), I know that nothing else I've seen so far touches this game.
The constantly smooth frame-rate gave it away. Pity.
Still, after the
bike chase, even with loading in the middle of it
Phaethon0017
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I need some help on Act 4. I can't seem to defeat
Vamp. He keeps getting up again and again and again. I killed him 4 times before he finished me off. Am I supposed to do something while he's down? Run away? Insert a syringe into him?
Danne-Danger
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Phaethon0017 said:
You're on the right track, but you don't need to knock him down.
Kabuki Waq
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tha_con said:
honestly man just admit you did not play GTA4 at all. The Dialog in GTA 4 shits all over I cant believe you brougMGS games. ht dialog into the equasion when comparing both games. I hope i just read your post out of context or something. Because I would take "fuck yourself" over love blooming over battlefields anyday.
Shouta
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CosmicGroinPull said:
In a round about way, yes. If you think about it, the entire purpose of MGS4 was to trick the system and allow them to successful implant the worm inside the Patriots. The fight with "Liquid" in the end wasn't even necessary for the plot, just a bit of fanservice and shows the real extent of Ocelot's psychotherapy.
I don't necessarily think so.Shouta said:
Ocelot DID have a score to settle with Snake (from MGS1), and fighting Snake got him one last shot to battle his icon and hero Big Boss. The Ocelot hand gesture at the beginning of the third phase of the battle is what makes me think it's still Ocelot inside there.
PS in phrase three he will kiss you if he grabs you
I'm on Act 4 and this game is absolutely blowing me away. Each individual act has more varied gameplay and jaw dropping moments that most entire games. I just finished the boss fight with
Crying Wolf. I loved how she would run in and then you would fight her close up then she would take off it would switch to a sniping match. I was also hoping that the rail gun would be an unlockable weapon, I was shocked and very pleased when you get it after the battle. I can't say how much I loved this fight. Every time I think that this game can't get any better it ramps up more than I would have thought possible.
Works for me best if I let go of the controller with my right hand, and flick it around with my left. Shaking it with both hands holding the controller didnt really work for me XDSchrade said:I have. It just doesn't work
rollingstart
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Y2Kev said:
I actually that
as their fight went on, Ocelot slowly returned to being Ocelot and not Liquid. If you looked at the life bars, it just says Ocelot as Snake Eater plays and his style is also changing. The final fight was Ocelot finally endulging himself and being set free. Ocelot is the most tragic character in the game.
Vyse The Legend
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Linkzg said:
^This. I thought it was painfully obvious that
as the fight progresses more of Ocelot returns. I mean the life bars reflect the change overtly -- Liquid, Liquid Ocelot, Ocelot.
KolosLazar16
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Liquid on big boss hard is stupidly fucking hard. WTF. It's annoying how high is health goes after every phase.
AzerPhire said:
1. I think Naomi was playing Vamp but he also called her his queen partly because of her fooling him and also because he had implanted the nano machines into her that made him "immortal."
2. The Patriots probably were watching somehow so Eva had to do her part to fool them. Both Ocelot and Eva wanted to free the world from the Patriots and to do this they all had to die. Just like Boss said at the end, with their death a new generation is ushered in.
3. I believe both Ocelot and Eva knew they had to die in order for their plans to be fully realized.
4. I dont think Liquid ever had control of Ocelot. Boss also said that he "became" Liquid through a combination of nano machines and hypnosis. It looked to me like Ocelot was fully in control in the last battle. He even said he was a shadow of Liquid right before he died.
2. The Patriots probably were watching somehow so Eva had to do her part to fool them. Both Ocelot and Eva wanted to free the world from the Patriots and to do this they all had to die. Just like Boss said at the end, with their death a new generation is ushered in.
3. I believe both Ocelot and Eva knew they had to die in order for their plans to be fully realized.
4. I dont think Liquid ever had control of Ocelot. Boss also said that he "became" Liquid through a combination of nano machines and hypnosis. It looked to me like Ocelot was fully in control in the last battle. He even said he was a shadow of Liquid right before he died.
Vyse The Legend
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chaoticprout said:
Imagine The Boss Extreme.
Phaethon0017
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zam said:
Ah, thanks. I'll go try that now.
I just finished the game ("Scorpion", I know I suck), and I'm still in a state of utter amazement. I'm not usually given to saying corny things, but every part of this game shows that it's a labour of love -- and one supported by both remarkable talent and the necessary budget. It's my favourite current-gen game so far, and that by a huge margin. And I'm not even much of an MGS fan (until now at least).
Some remarks from my inner graphics whore:
While many recent games that are praised for their graphics pick low-hanging fruit (sci-fi settings, space marines, etc) MGS4 continually picks some of the hardest subjects to render in real-time. Stuff like skin (and its movement, eg. during facial gestures), hair and cloth is portrayed in a manner that is completely above and beyond any other game out there. The only bad thing I can think of is that other games that try to realistically portray human characters in emotional scenes will look amateur and laughable after experiencing MGS4. I'd be very surprised if these aspects (character skin/hair/clothes rendering and animation) would get done similarly well (or better) before FF13.
Some remarks from my inner graphics whore:
While many recent games that are praised for their graphics pick low-hanging fruit (sci-fi settings, space marines, etc) MGS4 continually picks some of the hardest subjects to render in real-time. Stuff like skin (and its movement, eg. during facial gestures), hair and cloth is portrayed in a manner that is completely above and beyond any other game out there. The only bad thing I can think of is that other games that try to realistically portray human characters in emotional scenes will look amateur and laughable after experiencing MGS4. I'd be very surprised if these aspects (character skin/hair/clothes rendering and animation) would get done similarly well (or better) before FF13.
KolosLazar16
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Vyse The Legend said:
This is seriously retarded. I sailed through the game up until here and now this fucking boss is pissing me off, for an hour.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
I'm in Outer haven right now. Love the game so far but I'm if close to the end I'll be extremely pissed. It feels very short right now, but i'm probably talking out of my ass
I just beat the game. I'm sure some people will think that they perhaps went to too great a length to explain everything and tie together all the loose ends. I need to gather my thoughts before I make up my mind.
I'm pretty sure about one thing though: (end-game spoiler)
...I'm also starting to believe what Kojima said about them maxing out the PS3 with this game. :lol Some of the stuff in there is seriously mind-blowing.
I'm pretty sure about one thing though: (end-game spoiler)
I think I would've prefered it if Raiden had actually died at the end of Act 4. They sure made it seem that way then, and it was a totally powerful scene. When they later in Act 5 just casually drop "So how's Raiden doing?", I know I just went all "Huh???"
Well, it doesn't annoy me or anything. I'm glad he got his life back in every sense.
Well, it doesn't annoy me or anything. I'm glad he got his life back in every sense.
...I'm also starting to believe what Kojima said about them maxing out the PS3 with this game. :lol Some of the stuff in there is seriously mind-blowing.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Anyone know how well this game did day one? If you just post the numbers, I may need a definition of good or bad because I don't follow the whole numbers thing. Thanks.
Vyse The Legend
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MoonsaultSlayer said:
No official numbers yet, but you better believe it sold a fuckload.
ZeroTolerance
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I GOTZ MINEZ BITCHESSS..................... .... See ya all later.
.... See ya all later.
KolosLazar16
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Finally beat Big Boss Hard (2nd playthrough). It was easy until final boss which took an hour. jesus.
Ridiculously good? I've just finished Act 1 and whenever there's anything complex on-screen it drops to 20fps or lower. When you get indoors it's constantly jumping between 20,30 and 60fps.Bebpo said:
The LoD system is really aggressive, with detail popping in/out at only a few feet in front of Snake. It's sub-HD and it shows. The motion blur is very badly done. Bodies/items disappear very quickly. I could go on
Don't get me wrongit looks good, but it's all in the art/quality of the models/textures rather than the tech.
Shake it left to right, not up and down.Schrade said:
That are extremely unreliable and poorly made.Doc Evils said:
I'm going to have to send mine back in for repair again as the second screen has started screwing up now:
OSX is awesome, but putting up with Apple's hardware just isn't worth it. I've had so many replacement parts/computers it's unbelievable.
Sorry for the OT stuff, just had to rant when I saw that.
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