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[Blader]

-The story

MGS3 is a good game, but it most certainly does not trump the rest of the series in story. The plot of MGS3 was one of the more boring game narratives of I've ever experienced and a huge disappointment for an MGS game.

 

[BlueTsunami]

No one answered my questions and they're all but lost now:

1. Can you peak left/right in FPS mode in MGS4 like you could in MGS2/MGS3?

2. Can you lock the game to FPS mode?

I don't think ouc an lock the game in FPS view but if you want to peak left and right, use the D-Pad (presing left and right) to shift accordingly

 

[Malik]

Little things?? as in gameplay? I beat this game in 2 days with a fulltime job...wtf?

Allright im done, what was there was pretty cool...just wanted more.

on easy?

the games long, you beat it in 2 days, SO what? any game can be beaten in that time frame..lol, besides RPG's and those types of games.

MGS4 told the whole story and finished the snake saga, what you possible want more from it? LOL

you simply played a lot off it. simple.

Now try collecting all the easter eggs, beating it with NO alerts. try beating it with young snakes camo, etc. A lot to do.

 

[jmd494]

MGS3 is a good game, but it most certainly does not trump the rest of the series in story. The plot of MGS3 was one of the more boring game narratives of I've ever experienced and a huge disappointment for an MGS game.

MGS3 made me tear up...more than can be said for MGS and MGS2.

 

[rollingstart]

There's nothing wrong with liking MGS3 better.

I think MGS4 is by FAR the best game this generation and an amazing 10/10 experience, but I think MGS3 is the best game of all time and is still better than MGS4 because:

many excellent lines. All the "I saw space" stuff was <3

Still, MGS4 does a lot of GREAT things that MGS1-3 didn't do, so it's excellent in its own right. But I just prefer the things MGS3 does over the things MGS4 does personally.

I'd definitely go MGS3 >>> MGS4 = MGS1 > Portable Ops >> MGS2. MGS2 gameplay-wise is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PO, but man Big Boss is just so likable so I really enjoyed PO's story. Big Boss is the best character ever.

I think that MGS3 is a better stand alone game than MGS4. That and the emotional impact of the ending+credits (MGS4 ending was amazing, but it was more 'badass...AWESOME!' than sad or anything) are the two things I would say MGS3 has over MGS4. If you played MGS1, 2 and 3, then MGS4 hits all the right spots.

Two points I would address directly are the humor in MGS4 and the Boss fights. MGS4 was hilarious. Even the gags of Snake losing his psych guage when he gets embarrased was awesome all the way to the end. There were a number of times in the game I laughed hard, but again a lot of that was Kojima knowing what to pull in order to get to the MGS fans. Boss battles in MGS4 were all awesome for me. While there wasn't something as stand out as The End fight, all the bosses were consistantly great. MGS3 had only a handful of amazing boss fights, but the others (Fear, Pain, even the showdown with the Shagohod) were pretty lame. MGS3 had higher highs and lower lows than MGS4 in terms of bosses.

I really hope there are VR missions released for MGS4 that have missions where you play as Big Boss in that era and other things.

 

[Stillmatic]

No one answered my questions and they're all but lost now:

1. Can you peak left/right in FPS mode in MGS4 like you could in MGS2/MGS3?

2. Can you lock the game to FPS mode?

1: Push left and right on the D-Pad.

2: Not too sure on that, but i don't think so without holding the button.

 

[jmd494]

I don't think ouc an lock the game in FPS view but if you want to peak left and right, use the D-Pad (presing left and right) to shift accordingly

That was obvious...lol...glad I didn't go through the whole game thinking I couldn't do that.

Thanks!

 

[Durante]

Spoiler

The part where he shows up and is SHOOTING LIGHTNING WITH NO HANDS was seriously the most badass moment of the game for me.

Spoiler

Absolutely. It's like they did a brainstomring session after the gekko and vamp cutscenes on how to make him even more badass. "I've got it! Give him a trenchcoat and let him SHOOT LIGHTNING"

 

[Doc Holliday]

With MGS3 right when you thought the game was over it hits you with one of the greatest sequences in gaming...and guess what? Most of it was playable.

In MGS4 it ends just when you think the game is getting started and then it's cutscene after cutscene.

 

[rollingstart]

No one answered my questions and they're all but lost now:

1. Can you peak left/right in FPS mode in MGS4 like you could in MGS2/MGS3?

2. Can you lock the game to FPS mode?

Left/Right on D-pad (pressure sensetive).

You can set it to auto first person, but it isn't always first person. Basically, when you hold down L1 it goes straight into first person without pressing triangle, but walking around is still third person.

 

[jmd494]

1: Push left and right on the D-Pad.

2: Not too sure on that, but i don't think so without holding the button.

Thanks

 

[Narag]

MGS3 made me tear up...more than can be said for MGS and MGS2.

Its ultimately an agree to disagree thing but MGS3 felt so much more tragic compared to the other games. At least those could pass as a good ending for the protagonist but MGS3 was just harsh. I liked PO's ending for similar reasons but I'm assuming it was intentional in both cases to help the player identify with Big Boss and understand why he became so disenchanted in the first place.

 

[jmd494]

Left/Right on D-pad (pressure sensetive).

You can set it to auto first person, but it isn't always first person. Basically, when you hold down L1 it goes straight into first person without pressing triangle, but walking around is still third person.

Hmm...what's that option called? There are so many options!

 

[Tiduz]

Spoiler

The part where he shows up and is SHOOTING LIGHTNING WITH NO HANDS was seriously the most badass moment of the game for me. Raiden was awesome and I'm glad they didn't kill him off.

At that moment i screamed out MORTAL KOMBAT :lol

 

[Darkpen]

ur hur hur

Left to right: Myself, Wario64, Marty Chinn

Back row: Wario64, careksims, Marty Chinn, Jimmy Stav, Captain Nemo
Front row: Myself, Auron_Kale

Old Snake cosplayer

Naked Snake cosplayer

Wenis

A lurker by the name of Tim Grimes

This is what I wanted us to do, but I never bothered saying anything in the thread, let alone going out and buying a pack of these just for this occasion o_o

A lurker by the name of Andrew C.

On the right is Callibretto, with his lurker friend I Gede Mahendra

more cosplayers

A lurker by the name of Jon Gilliam

Top view of the end of the line as of 1:37PM PST (It got much much much longer by the time we started moving)

The line sort of bends into the little plaza sitting area place at the corner of the block

Cypher

A lurker by the name of Josh Kulinski

The corner of the block

The latter half of the line that breaks into the sitting area

This is a damn long line

Seriously

Where the line breaks. Its also the exit that the autograph receivers exited from. They later had cosplayers there posing.

The entrance

Front of the line (apparently, these guys had been there since a little past midnight)

The sign (such a lie, Novery was nowhere in sight at that signing table. He was standing around with the 1up dudes instead D

humongous line D:

TIME PARADOX D:!!!!!

Mr. Ryan Payton, secretly hanging outside, caught by random passerbyers to take photos with him D:

A lurker by the name of Marcello Jagosh

Kaizer is the only name I got out of the guy. He was with Payton, it seemed, and apparently does freelance photography. He says he's posted on GAF maybe 3 times, but he mostly lurks.

Marty's friend/coworker Max(... or is it Matt... I think it was Max) took these. He took two more, but I deleted them on a whim D: (they were near the signing table, but didn't exactly show out very well)

My signed box

from the SF thread

 

[biggkidd32]

Holy hell @ Act 4.

 

[FateBreaker]

In MGS4 it ends just when you think the game is getting started and then it's cutscene after cutscene.

Spoiler

you thought the game was just getting started after you kill Liquid Ocelot?

 

[rollingstart]

With MGS3 right when you thought the game was over it hits you with one of the greatest sequences in gaming...and guess what? Most of it was playable.

In MGS4 it ends just when you think the game is getting started and then it's cutscene after cutscene.

I disagree.

(MGS4 ending spoilers)

Spoiler

MGS4 let you play every fight that Snake was a part of. Even the crawl through the microwave room was being controlled by you. The next time Snake sees action, it is up fighting with Ocelot and the game gives you control of that. There aren't many sequences that are just Snake doing something cool while you sit there really to mash a button for DP. They basically let you do as much as you could in those sequences.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Ok OK

May have spoken too soon

Spoiler

BIG BOSS!!!

 

[burgerdog]

So I beat the game and realized that somewhere in the middle of Act II I turned off vibration on my six-axis as a second controller which in turn turned off the vibration on my DS3. :lol

edit
GAME IS AMAZING!!

 

[rod]

Spoiler

you thought the game was just getting started after you kill Liquid Ocelot?

yeah pretty much. i find it funny that long time fans are actually complaining about too many cutscenes. that go for too long. because they dont get to physically play them. but then complain that there wasnt enough codec calls? really?

i recently replayed mgs3 and the cutscenes are just as plentiful as they where here. mgs3 has a LOT of unneeded codec calls imo though. mgs3 was one of the best games ever, but its not the best game ever. which mgs4 is

 

[Y2Kev]

Spoiler

Absolutely. It's like they did a brainstomring session after the gekko and vamp cutscenes on how to make him even more badass. "I've got it! Give him a trenchcoat and let him SHOOT LIGHTNING"

And he will

Spoiler

FEND OFF 40 SOLDIERS WITH HIS MOTHERFUCKING TEETH

 

[kairu]

<-- hahaha

Stay thirsty my friends

 

[Durante]

And he will

Spoiler

FEND OFF 40 SOLDIERS WITH HIS MOTHERFUCKING TEETH

:lol

Spoiler

Sometimes I just love over-the-top stuff like this

 

[Narag]

yeah pretty much. i find it funny that long time fans are actually complaining about too many cutscenes. that go for too long. because they dont get to physically play them. but then complain that there wasnt enough codec calls? really?

i recently replayed mgs3 and the cutscenes are just as plentiful as they where here. mgs3 has a LOT of unneeded codec calls imo though. mgs3 was one of the best games ever, but its not the best game ever. which mgs4 is

To be fair, they're referencing the optional codec calls that tend to go a long way in fleshing out the setting of the MGS they are a part of.

 

[rollingstart]

And he will

Spoiler

FEND OFF 40 SOLDIERS WITH HIS MOTHERFUCKING TEETH

not to mention

Spoiler

he had no arms! His choices were his teeth or use one foot while hopping on the other. RAIDEN FUCKING STOPPED ARSENAL GEAR WITH HIS BODY! He is so awesome!

 

[kairu]

not to mention

Spoiler

he had no arms! His choices were his teeth or use one foot while hopping on the other. RAIDEN FUCKING STOPPED ARSENAL GEAR WITH HIS BODY! He is so awesome!

Spoiler

how did he lose the second arm? stopping arsenal?

 

[Narag]

not to mention

Spoiler

he had no arms! His choices were his teeth or use one foot while hopping on the other. RAIDEN FUCKING STOPPED ARSENAL GEAR WITH HIS BODY! He is so awesome!

Spoiler

I thought that was a little excessive. Stopping the ship was cool to watch but just out there by even MGS standards.

 

[Y2Kev]

Spoiler

I thought that was a little excessive. Stopping the ship was cool to watch but just out there by even MGS standards.

I'll be honest. Whenever someone describes something as "excessive" about MGS action it's kind of like yeah yeah take a number. Frankly I wished he

Spoiler

picked up the ship with his teeth and twirled it like an ice skater. then, while eating a delicious sub sandwhich with one hand, sang the best is yet to come and threw a touch down pass to bret favre with Haven as the football

 

[reilo]

WTF at Akiba trying to play some grab-ass :lol

 

[kairu]

Spoiler

I thought that was a little excessive. Stopping the ship was cool to watch but just out there by even MGS standards.

you're right, and naked snake surviving a nuclear blast being about 20 feet away is completely plausible.

 

[jvalioli]

Spoiler

I thought that was a little excessive. Stopping the ship was cool to watch but just out there by even MGS standards.

Spoiler

Yeah, that was really weird I thought. Especially since all the rocks that pinned him before had to weigh so much less than Arsenal Gear, yet he had to cut off his own arm to escape that.

 

[Phaethon0017]

I just had my first ever video game HOLY F@%&ING SHIT moment in Act 4. That ending was just all sorts of awesome. Wow.

 

[Y2Kev]

Spoiler

Yeah, that was really weird I thought. Especially since all the rocks that pinned him before had to weigh so much less than Arsenal Gear, yet he had to cut off his own arm to escape that.

Consider that

Spoiler

Ocelot was never going to actually kill snake.

 

[Narag]

I'll be honest. Whenever someone describes something as "excessive" about MGS action it's kind of like yeah yeah take a number. Frankly I wished he

Spoiler

picked up the ship with his teeth and twirled it like an ice skater. then, while eating a delicious sub sandwhich with one hand, sang the best is yet to come and threw a touch down pass to bret favre with Haven as the football

Spoiler

Actually it makes me wish that when he'd put his sword away when him and Vamp threw down then he'd just ripped Vamp's heart ouf of his chest and reminded snake it was time to gtfo of shadow moses

 

[Bebpo]

you're right, and naked snake surviving a nuclear blast being about 20 feet away is completely plausible.

I thought he was like 30-50 miles away

 

[Tiduz]

Spoiler

I was so glad Snakes camo turned back on after the microwave camotearing, holy shit that scarred me for life :lol

 

[Narag]

I thought he was like 30-50 miles away

He was nowhere near that far but not as close as the above poster insinuated. Wiki says he would've had to been within a quarter mile of the site of detonation to receive a lethal dose of radiation.

Spoiler

I was so glad Snakes camo turned back on after the microwave camotearing, holy shit that scarred me for life :lol

Spoiler

Fuck yes. I thought that was his skin being burned white or something.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

you're right, and naked snake surviving a nuclear blast being about 20 feet away is completely plausible.

20 feet away? and it was a davy crocket *shrugs

 

[Barakov]

WTF at Akiba trying to play some grab-ass :lol

Haha.

That scene came out of nowhere.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Spoiler

you thought the game was just getting started after you kill Liquid Ocelot?

No I thought the game just getting started when I got to

Spoiler

Shadow Moses

I thought that section would be more fleshed out in terms of amount of gameplay.

 

[Chiggs]

Sweet Jesus, I just finished Act 4. Un-fucking-believeable. I already have 24 hours logged into the singleplayer, and I think this is the best game of this generation so far, and it's gonna take a lot to top it.

 

[pistolpete2940]

best game ever!!!

 

[Bill Squabber]

I am so pissed. I ordered my LE copy from gamestop online and UPS say they delivered it but i never got it. I want to call gamestop but their costumer service is closed.
FUCK YOU GAMESTOP
FUCK YOU UPS

 

[kairu]

20 feet away? and it was a davy crocket *shrugs

the distance was an exaggeration, it was more like 0.5-1 mile, they had just taken off and they shot it back at the base.

A Davy Crocket is just a small nuclear shell by the way.

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Davy_Crockett

 

[Elbrain]

Just finished the game, all I have to say is that the game is pure fucking awesome. Especially the end.

 

[Kccitystar]

:lol

Spoiler

The original pixelated Solid Snake face camo and the "nightmare" PSX Shadow Moses

To me the entire MGS4 game so far reminds me of a high school reunion with all of the cast returning one way or another in different ways. Best moment in the game for me is when

Spoiler

Raiden returns, gives Snake advice remiscient of "Deepthroat" from MGS, and in future cutscenes you can tell he no longer gave a shit about living anymore

I am still stuck in Act 5 with

Spoiler

these damn FROGS, it's impossible to kill or tranq them all! With Gekkos in the mix! AHHHHH

 

[mackaveli]

spoilers about ending and the game in general.

Spoiler

i was just wondering, does liquid ocelot in MGS2 and MGS4 does he refer to snake as brother or snake? and in MGS1 does liquid ever call him snake or always brother?

cause in the final fight, ocelot calls him snake always i believe so that could be a hint he was always ocelot before the big reveal.

Also when he says he was liquid's doppleganger* he was like and you were your father's was also a nice touch i thought showing he was ocelot and not liquid

absolutely love this game.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

the distance was an exaggeration, it was more like 0.5-1 mile, they had just taken off and they shot it. But a Davy Crocket is just a small nuke.

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Davy_Crockett

I know what a davy crockett is, but it seemed far off into the distance, and it's not like we know how much damage one can do.

 

[Narag]

spoilers about ending and the game in general.

Spoiler

i was just wondering, does liquid ocelot in MGS2 and MGS4 does he refer to snake as brother or snake? and in MGS1 does liquid ever call him snake or always brother?

cause in the final fight, ocelot calls him snake always i believe so that could be a hint he was always ocelot before the big reveal.

Also when he says he was liquid's doppleganger* he was like and you were your father's was also a nice touch i thought showing he was ocelot and not liquid

absolutely love this game.

Interchangeable references in both games.