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Metal Gear Solid 4 |OT| No Place to Hide, No Time for a Legend to FoxDie
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Cartman86 said:
the new foxdie took over the old one. Drebin injected it in him and thats whats kills eva, ocelot, and Big Boss. Since the new foxdie is killing the old ones, he won't turn into a biological weapon, but he still has months to live. Anyone glad that Snake didn't die. After Kojima was hyping up the fact he gets killed, I was relived when I saw that he couldn't do it.
Last thing, anyone try making the bosses dance?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
TTP said:
I noticed that, but it's not my primary complaint. I meant that they've actually gone on alert and actively hunted me in at least two areas that I can recall specifically. Both times, I'd built up lots of love from them, then was attacked while I walked among them later. Both times, there was no fight on at the time, and therefore no opportunity to accidentally shoot someone.
Ken Masters
Banned
Two things, "The Best is Yet to Come" playing at the hanger was one of the most emotional moments for me in a game, I know it's corny. Second the final fight with Liquid and the changing of MGS1/2/3 energy bars and music was the greatest send off a game could ever have.
ScissorHands
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Stillmatic said:Someone else has probably already pointed this tune out, but i just found 'Flowing Destiny' the ZOE main theme for the iPod.
Soo good.
Where!!!!
Btw is there any MGS2/MGS3 music for the iPod? I have found none.
jaydogg691
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BlueTsunami said:
The fighting mechanics were bad IMO. Maybe it's because I suck, but it wasn't as great as going against The Boss in MGS3.
How much stuff like that is in this game? I really, really wish that you could go back and play certain acts from a menu, even if it meant re-installing them every time. Touches like this are completely wasted.tha_con said:
Also, where is my cutscene theater? Maybe for MGS4 Subtantial or whatever.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
jaydogg691 said:
It did feel awkward at first but the way it would cut in and out of alternate angles was fantastic.
Also, the requirments for some of the more elite badges are freaking crazy. No Recovery Items used? Wow just wow.
ScissorHands said:
Spoilers if you don't want to know what the hidden songs are I suppose
Metal Gear Solid Main Theme (The Document Remix)
Rock Me Baby
Snake Eater
Subsistence Action
The Fury
Yell Dead Cell
Rock Me Baby
Snake Eater
Subsistence Action
The Fury
Yell Dead Cell
Those are the ones from MGS2/3 that I know of right now.
Link to List of songs known. May contain spoilers
http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/IPod#Collectable_Songs
Crazymoogle
Member
Guled said:
Er...
if the new foxdie did it, how did Ocelot survive Eastern Europe? I mean, I guess I could vaguely understand Eva lasting through the bossfight and chase, but Ocelot had a long time there after being in proximity with Snake...
TAJ said:
Huh. That never happened to me. Then again I blew up both of those PMC vehicles in Act 1. Also they give you a Militia disguise so if you didnt help them out earlier, you should be fairly safe.
But yeah, i've never had that happen, so maybe it was an odd occurance? Then again I always feel compelled to help the militia fighters to the best of my abilities.
Ken Masters
Banned
Major props to anyone who unlocks the
wow @ the requirements
Big Boss emblem
wow @ the requirements
Cartman86 said:
FoxDie = always took a while. DARPA chief spilled his guts, Liquid lasted HOW long?
New FoxDie seems to be the same. Big Mama lasted through the chase, Ocelot lasted that final battle, Big Boss fought through it for a good while.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
the number of people i've heard in here say that this is the greatest game ever, after beating it, is pretty damn crazy.
hopefully it's not just the new car smell and this does stand the test of time. because it's been a really great experience so far.
hopefully it's not just the new car smell and this does stand the test of time. because it's been a really great experience so far.
Ken Masters
Banned
Question about the face masks you can unlock
is it possible to unlock the ones that can only be unlocked through the mission briefings after you beat the game? like the raiden and otocon ones
Cartman86 said:
Looking at the disc, all the songs that come with the game are:
AttackoftheDwarfGekko
BIO_HAZARD
BOKUTAI_DS_THEME
Backyard_Blues
Beyond_The_Bounds
BigBoss
Bokutai2_THEME
Bokutai3_THEME
Bon_Dance
Calling_To_The_Night
Chase
Destinys_Call
Flowing_Destiny
FreeComp
Inori
LEVEL3_WARNING
MG20YearsHistory_Vol1
MG20YearsHistory_Vol2
MG20YearsHistory_Vol3
MG20YearsHistory_Vol4
MGS4_Thema_Of_Love_SmaXvr
MGSTheme_DocumentRemix
MIP_001_02
MPO+THEME
OPENING_TITLE_OLD_L
OishiTsuhan
On_Alert
One_Night_in_NEOKOBECITY
POLICENAUTS_END_TITLE
Rock_Me_Baby
SUBSISTENCE_ACTION
Sailor
Sea_Breeze
Show_Time
Snake_Eater
Sneaking
THEMA_OF_TARA
THEME_OF_SOLID_SNAKE
THE_BEST_IS_YET_TO_CO
Takin_On_The_Shagohod
Test_Subject_Burns
Test_Subjects_Dualityt
The_Essence_Of_Vince
The_Fury
WARHEAD_STORAGE
Who_Am_I_Medley
ZanzibarBreeze
yell_dead_cell
BIO_HAZARD
BOKUTAI_DS_THEME
Backyard_Blues
Beyond_The_Bounds
BigBoss
Bokutai2_THEME
Bokutai3_THEME
Bon_Dance
Calling_To_The_Night
Chase
Destinys_Call
Flowing_Destiny
FreeComp
Inori
LEVEL3_WARNING
MG20YearsHistory_Vol1
MG20YearsHistory_Vol2
MG20YearsHistory_Vol3
MG20YearsHistory_Vol4
MGS4_Thema_Of_Love_SmaXvr
MGSTheme_DocumentRemix
MIP_001_02
MPO+THEME
OPENING_TITLE_OLD_L
OishiTsuhan
On_Alert
One_Night_in_NEOKOBECITY
POLICENAUTS_END_TITLE
Rock_Me_Baby
SUBSISTENCE_ACTION
Sailor
Sea_Breeze
Show_Time
Snake_Eater
Sneaking
THEMA_OF_TARA
THEME_OF_SOLID_SNAKE
THE_BEST_IS_YET_TO_CO
Takin_On_The_Shagohod
Test_Subject_Burns
Test_Subjects_Dualityt
The_Essence_Of_Vince
The_Fury
WARHEAD_STORAGE
Who_Am_I_Medley
ZanzibarBreeze
yell_dead_cell
victreeb3l
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Just got to
Shadow Moses. What's the song that plays? I nearly burst into tears
Solideliquid
Member
I can't help but laugh now that I think about
ocelot wriggling his arm about in MGS 2 SOL pretending it was possessed.
Going through Act 2 again right now and I'm still marveling at how great it is.
Why couldn't the whole game be like this?
The Power Station, the Confinement Facility, Vista Mansion, Laughing Octopus, the tracking sequence, the finale with Drebin- it's the single best stealth action level in any game I've ever played.
I wouldn't call it that but the game is great if you like metal gear, especially the story aspect because this game is the heaviest in story to play ratio.mattiewheels said:
Like most games there are a lot of small nitpicky things that should be different that stop it from being best game ever as well.
Solideliquid
Member
Cartman86 said:
you mean on a second playthrough there are new face camo to unlock on the Nomad?
Crazymoogle
Member
SnakeXs said:
This is an order of magnitude larger though. Eva lasted about as long as Liquid did with the last foxdie. Enough for a meet and greet, a fight, and a chase. DARPA chief went down really quickly too, compared to Ocelot, who fought at the sewer, then jumped on a boat. Then had a drawn-out showdown. Then eventually got onboard a new ship. Then ran off to Shadow Moses. Then survive Shadow moses, get onboard a ship again, head out to see, get caught, drag it out some more...you get the picture.
Hell, was there even an indication of it? A sound effect or something? Because all I heard was Snake beating the shit out of the guy.
Hell, was there even an indication of it? A sound effect or something? Because all I heard was Snake beating the shit out of the guy.
TTP said:
If the additional stuff had been as fun and interesting as the first two acts, (and Act 3 almost was- I have no qualms with it really outside of how
uninteresting the boss fight was and how large the story-to-game ratio was
Stillmatic
Member
ScissorHands said:
Flowing Destiny (ZOE ending theme) can be found:
In Shadow Moses where you fought Raven in the tank
Ok, I see lots of discussion about the plot here, but I'm still confused. Please help me understand:
Was EVA just playing along if she was really working with Ocelot? I don't understand. Really, I don't. She and Ocelot, after all, both wanted to bring down the Patriots.
Was Liquid Ocelot playing along the entire time or did he have bigger ideas after the Patriots' AI was destroyed? Was this whole thing he orchestrated a facade? Liquid is not a morally sound individual; even if his true intention was to simply destroy the Patriots, if he had his way, the game wouldn't have ended like it did with Sunny's virus restoring order. Right or not?
Why exactly did Drebin inject FOXDIE into people who WERE the Patriots if he was also working for them? Because he wanted every last trace of the Patriots gone, even if they too wanted to destroy the AI?
Can it be assumed that the new Foxdie in Solid Snake combined with the old Foxdie is basically negating the deadly effects, and all that's slowing Snake down is how his cloned body naturally ages at an accelerated rate?
Basically, is it that everyone shares the same view that the Patriots' AI must be destroyed, however, what they do to the world after that happens is where their opinions differ? When Big Boss tied together all the loose ends during the final act, it made my head spin. And it still is.
Please, someone help me make sense of all this stuff.
Was Liquid Ocelot playing along the entire time or did he have bigger ideas after the Patriots' AI was destroyed? Was this whole thing he orchestrated a facade? Liquid is not a morally sound individual; even if his true intention was to simply destroy the Patriots, if he had his way, the game wouldn't have ended like it did with Sunny's virus restoring order. Right or not?
Why exactly did Drebin inject FOXDIE into people who WERE the Patriots if he was also working for them? Because he wanted every last trace of the Patriots gone, even if they too wanted to destroy the AI?
Can it be assumed that the new Foxdie in Solid Snake combined with the old Foxdie is basically negating the deadly effects, and all that's slowing Snake down is how his cloned body naturally ages at an accelerated rate?
Basically, is it that everyone shares the same view that the Patriots' AI must be destroyed, however, what they do to the world after that happens is where their opinions differ? When Big Boss tied together all the loose ends during the final act, it made my head spin. And it still is.
Please, someone help me make sense of all this stuff.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
TTP said:
About 50 of my 85 PMC kills in the Middle East happened in front of militia members, and I did do some serious vehicle destruction in front of them.
They witnessed somewhere around 200 PMC kills in South America before they turned on me, and at least 60 of those were within six to seven minutes of the betrayal.
Crazymoogle said:
So much black!!!
I am curious if the typical foxdie sound effect occured during Ocelots fight. I don't actually remember Big Boss saying that Ocelot died from Fox Die. I would assume that the Patriots would have made it do so, but i'm not sure. How many hours would you say occured between Europe and Haven? 15-24 hours??
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