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[Gen-X]

I have to say that MGS4, just played with my emotions. I cried like a little wuss on the

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Microwave

scene and I think the

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microwave

scene made everyone at least tear up and/or make them sad. Do not lie I teared during that part for some reason maybe it was because you saw everyone on the verge of

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dying/losing and trying to give Old Snake time to save the world. You saw Raiden almost getting killed...Mei Ling getting ready to do a last stand, the Colonel looking away because he couldn't bare to look at Snake and more importantly his friend...at the verge of death in the microwave, same thing goes for Rosemary, and Akiba/Meryl doing a last stand as well and them being together before they supposedly die. I think Kojima-San definitely delivered there, especially since he made that chamber look as it was never ending and Snakes suit just tearing up each time you went on.

I'm sorry but Kojima-San you rock!

 

[SRG01]

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Do the helicopters count as a kill? I'm planning a fresh (no added equipment) BB speed-run and I'm thinking I might need to shoot down the helicopters in Act 3.

By the way, there was a brilliant speedrun posted of MGS3 back in the day and I think I'll follow that one. Nearly no tranqs were fired and mostly holdups.

 

[drohne]

Finished the game a second time. Also noticed that there is a typo in the credits. "Research" is spelling incorrectly in the "Research & Development" section. God, I absolutely love this game, typos and all.

on roughly that note, it drives me nuts that everyone pronounces 'psyche' as 'psych.' maybe it was written 'psych' in the actors' scripts or something

 

[DCharlie]

finally got it - ordered on slow delivery from Play-Asia...

anyways, literally only played to the very first save point so, well, not really played it as such!

i don't know what i expected the smoking snake to be, but it was quite cool. Install of 8 mins wasn't too bad, but not sure i appreciated the "Made you wait huh?" :shakefist!

The opening "thing" (i knew NOTHING about this and i'm glad i've avoided pretty much everything until now) i thought that was excellent - i knew nothing about it, and i started thinking "WTF is this..." then tried to skip and thought "wow, this is pretty damned cool"

into the game, Hayter's voice and the monologue were a bit off i thought. But the action and the inital cutscenes were fantastic.

Totally pumped up for the game, can't wait to get my teeth into it.

 

[chespace]

on roughly that note, it drives me nuts that everyone pronounces 'psyche' as 'psych.' maybe it was written 'psych' in the actors' scripts or something

psych!

 

[mileS]

avoid this thread and play the shit out of it DCharlie. Some of the spoiler tags have been iffy here and there.

can't wait to hear what you have to say after you finish

 

[Stillmatic]

Not much use now that everyone's probably already explored it, but i'll post it anyway. It's just a vid i recorded yesterday messing around with some CQC.

http://www.dailymotion.com/NZ-Illmatic/video/x5udsb_mgs4toying-with-pmcs-spoiler-free_videogames

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Mantis

doll in MP would be a lot of fun. :lol

 

[angelfly]

I'm going for a no kill no alert run but I was wondering for the beauties is it okay to shoot them with any weapon?

 

[Blader]

I just finished Act 3...

Fuck this is the most self-indulgent shit I've ever witnessed. Holy overexposition Batman, someone needs to teach Kojima the meaning of the word "restraint". WTF is wrong with this guy? I want to actually PLAY this motherfucker.

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[BlueTsunami]

Even if I hated this game with a passion, I would still forgive it simply due to the

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MGS1 callback. I did not expect that at all and the way Snake wakes up from it as its a dream (mainly the transition from pixelated Snake to awesomely modeled Snake) made me laugh. Also, I didn't know this game was going to have us revisit Shadow Moses. I love Kojima for that, love him.

 

[SnakeXs]

I'm going for a no kill no alert run but I was wondering for the beauties is it okay to shoot them with any weapon?

Their beast form, yeah.

 

[Teknoman]

whats the point of pushing X during scenes? the ''flash backs' are all less than 1 sec and you really can't get anything out of it....


and say, where does the Database go after you DL? cant find...

Its a program in the XMB.

Also the flashbacks are just meant to pair that character or situation with something that happened in past MG games or earlier on.

 

[No_Style]

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Liquid and Snake have old-gen nanomachines that react strangely with SOP. When SOP activated it caused the nanomachines in them to go haywire which leads to seizures. The syringe is filled with a fluid that newer nanomachines naturally secrete that keeps this problem from happening. It is sort of like an old school insulin shot as opposed to an automatic insulin pump. The problem is that the more you use it, the less it works, which means you have to use it more, creating this cycle. That is why Snake goes from sparingly using it to heroine-addict frequency towards the end.

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SOP is gone though...

 

[Y2Kev]

There are a few typos in the subtitles. "Possibly x" is written as "possible x" once...I remember that.

 

[Teknoman]

Damn it Screaming Mantis is messing with my head.

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I thought my TV went out for a second, then I realized it said Hideo 2 at the top....lol now im expecting some crazy ass solution to beating her. Now to figure this out...

 

[Jack Scofield]

Does anyone else think...

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...that it would have been better if Snake had placed the gun at his temple instead of his mouth? It would have been great imagery, mirroring the Big Boss/Snake salute we all know and love.

I felt it was a missed opportunity.

 

[dralla]

Does anyone else think...

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...that it would have been better if Snake had placed the gun at his temple instead of his mouth? It would have been great imagery, mirroring the Big Boss/Snake salute we all know and love.

I felt it was a missed opportunity.

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he didn't shoot himself anyway so it would've been pointless

ps. can we please get a spoiler button on the post reply box, it's annoying to type out the tags :[

 

[Mromson]

Has anyone figured out any other passwords for the game?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I just finished Act 3...

Fuck this is the most self-indulgent shit I've ever witnessed. Holy overexposition Batman, someone needs to teach Kojima the meaning of the word "restraint". WTF is wrong with this guy? I want to actually PLAY this motherfucker.

Someone didn't know what he was getting himself into.

Does anyone else think...

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...that it would have been better if Snake had placed the gun at his temple instead of his mouth? It would have been great imagery, mirroring the Big Boss/Snake salute we all know and love.

I felt it was a missed opportunity.

No, definitely not.

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The way his hands and jaw trembled as he was putting the gun in his mouth was perfectly devastating. Any other way would have had far less impact, in my opinion. Quickly putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger is one thing, but putting it up to your face, opening your mouth and putting it in, to me, seems much darker and more desperate. It perfectly emphasizes Snake's situation.

 

[dralla]

For the Assassins emblem, is it 50 Knife kills or KO's?

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

For the Assassins emblem, is it 50 Knife kills or KO's?

Both chokes and knife.

 

[Yoshichan]

For the Assassins emblem, is it 50 Knife kills or KO's?

And less than 25 alerts, of course.

 

[dralla]

yea, but it's knife kills? I thought it was the stun function, I dunno if I want to kill 50 people :[

 

[Yoshichan]

yea, but it's knife kills? I thought it was the stun function, I dunno if I want to kill 50 people :[

Simple: 50 CQC and 50 Knife kills/stuns

It's up to you if you want to stun or kill them.

 

[besada]

Just finished. I absolutely love the game.

But:

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Final cutscene(s)? C'mon, Kojima. I just saved the world, so quit bludgeoning me with the plot already.

Why did they suddenly make Raiden ridiculous in Act 5? Stopping a moving ship? Swordfighting with his mouth? Really?

Other than some minor quibbles, the game was fantastic. Fighting in

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Rex, the motorcycle chase, the final boss fight, just wow. I absolutely loved kicking the crap out of Ocelot.

 

[dralla]

ah ok, can I knock them out with CQC first, than stun their bodies :?

 

[Yoshichan]

ah ok, can I knock them out with CQC first, than stun their bodies :?

No, I don't think so. Just camp in act 1 where the PMCs spawns infinitely (where you first

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see the helicopter attack the militia)

. It took me 10 minutes

 

[drohne]

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Why did they suddenly make Raiden ridiculous in Act 5? Stopping a moving ship? Swordfighting with his mouth? Really?

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uh, i'm not seeing the 'suddenly' -- in act 3 he uses two gekkos with their feelers wrapped around his legs as a sort of helicopter rotor

the database is pretty great, btw -- its sheer heterogenous sprawl is extremely metal gear. everything is somehow relevant to this series. including the bolshoi ballet somehow. i really need to play portable ops, which apparently clarifies the links between mgs3 and the rest of the series

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i'm going to disregard its explanation of raiden's cyborg body, however -- yes, that the patriots forced it on him makes him very like grey fox, but i prefer the idea that he did it to himself while suffering from the doubts inflicted on him by mgs2's events

 

[Jack Scofield]

No, definitely not.

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The way his hands and jaw trembled as he was putting the gun in his mouth was perfectly devastating. Any other way would have had far less impact, in my opinion. Quickly putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger is one thing, but putting it up to your face, opening your mouth and putting it in, to me, seems much darker and more desperate. It perfectly emphasizes Snake's situation.

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They could've shown Snake's desperation and fear just as well. He wouldn't have to quickly put the gun up towards his head, he could have looked at it, hands trembling, and placed the gun towards his head before becoming overwhelmed by emotion and taking it away. Then, slowly, he could have placed the gun on his head a second time, compose himself this time, knowing full well what he has to do, and pull the trigger (even though he didn't).

Don't get me wrong, I love the scene the way it already is, but I just thought that it would have been better if it was reminiscent of the salutes.

 

[besada]

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uh, i'm not seeing the 'suddenly' -- in act 3 he uses two gekkos with their feelers wrapped around his legs as a sort of helicopter rotor

Okay, that was pretty ridiculous, too.

 

[dralla]

Okay, that was pretty ridiculous, too.

ridiculously awesome

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

ridiculously awesome

It was, but

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seeing him basicly get slaughtered twice, especially at shadow moses where you think he gets crushed, and to get a simple "he'll live" out of otacon was a bit extreme. then lo and behold he shows up again to get hurt for snake. A bit much.

 

[G-Bus]

Yay, finally managed to get my hands on this. Couldn't find a copy so I had to rent. Never did get a chance to play any of the others, even though I bought MGS2 :\ Very much so looking forward to this! Installing now.

Is MGO on the same disc?

 

[Farnack]

Have you tried using the Auto-Aim?

Auto-Aim is the most fun way to do the

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motorcycle

part.

Just take the race gun and bandana. Shit just dies. lol

 

[tha_con]

I just finished Act 3...

Fuck this is the most self-indulgent shit I've ever witnessed. Holy overexposition Batman, someone needs to teach Kojima the meaning of the word "restraint". WTF is wrong with this guy? I want to actually PLAY this motherfucker.

Someone get this man a tissue to wipe away his tears.

 

[A Human Becoming]

End of Act 4 Spoilers:

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Why does Raiden jump off Rex while leaving Shadow Moses? It doesn't make any fucking sense. If he did die at the end of Act 4, fuck Kojima. Most retarded death in the series.

 

[Zombie James]

End of Act 4 Spoilers:

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Why does Raiden jump off Rex while leaving Shadow Moses? It doesn't make any fucking sense. If he did die at the end of Act 4, fuck Kojima. Most retarded death in the series.

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Covering the rear.

 

[chubigans]

Dunno if already posted, but there's a new camo pattern available to download within the Extras section (Digital Blue, meant for water camouflage).

 

[A Human Becoming]

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Covering the rear.

That's awful reasoning.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Dunno if already posted, but there's a new camo pattern available to download within the Extras section (Digital Blue, meant for water camouflage).

The water in this game is great but its only in like 3 playable areas.

 

[chubigans]

The water in this game is great but its only in like 3 playable areas.

I thought it was only in one location...just a stream.

Kinda sucks, but ah well.

 

[fistfulofmetal]

The water in this game is great but its only in like 3 playable areas.

Well now you'll be perfectly invisible in those 3 areas!

 

[drohne]

That's awful reasoning.

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well, when he jumps off, he says 'i'll get your back' or something. i guess you're free to question his judgement

 

[GalacticAE]

End of Act 4 Spoilers:

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Why does Raiden jump off Rex while leaving Shadow Moses? It doesn't make any fucking sense. If he did die at the end of Act 4, fuck Kojima. Most retarded death in the series.

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Just so Kojima has a reason for a surprise rescue for Snake when Arsenal crashes the docks. The most retarded death in any MGS has to be The End when you would snipe him in his wheelchair. It's funny though. :=D

 

[Saiyu]

Meh, there must be something wrong with me, I'm just not having much fun with this game....

I played the hell out of MGS and MGS2,2 being my (shock) favourite (well I did prefer FFVIII to FFVII....) and even played the original MG. I gave up on MGS 3 a little after the base with Raidenovich in it and I'm starting to get the same feeling I had when playing that game while on MGS4. Granted, I'm nowhere in this game, but I still find myself turning off after moving a few areas due to boredom or just indifference.

An example of something that really turned me off was the

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militia base

. First milita I see recognises me, 2nd lets me pass I move into another room and as soon as I enter I get an alert without any audible or visual warning and the whole damn place is after me. Tired and pissed I decide to take advantage of the archaic mechanics of being able to enter another area and lose the guards and so follows much running around sponging bullets (I'm on Big Boss difficulty) to make it to the next area, where I endure a boring cut scene with the stereotypical black guy. Now I've liked cut scenes in MGS but this just came across as a mess - way too much filler with boring converations, little substance and no relevance. I'm not blind to say it's just like that in this edition of MGS (the Emma Emmerich cut scene springs to mind), but if this is an indication of what's coming I'll be very disappointed.

And don't get me started in the schizophrenic feel of the whole theme in the game (this is a sneaking mission, no wait here's a shedload of guns). While I see why this decision was made, and it being added as an option, ignoring the action oriented gameplay makes the game play pretty boring, hence my post.

Sure I'll probably finish it if only for the story, but I doubt I'm gonna enjoy this as much as 1 and 2.

 

[A Human Becoming]

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well, when he jumps off, he says 'i'll get your back' or something. i guess you're free to question his judgement

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Seems like Kojima just wanted any easy way to kill off Raiden. The Naomi death scene was over dramatic as it was.

 

[Wario64]

whats the point of pushing X during scenes? the ''flash backs' are all less than 1 sec and you really can't get anything out of it....


and say, where does the Database go after you DL? cant find...

You're suppose to press X button multiple times. Each time you press the X button, it shows a different pic for that flashback. Some flashbacks have up to like 4-5 different pics

 

[drohne]

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The most retarded death in any MGS has to be The End when you would snipe him in his wheelchair. It's funny though. :=D

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i think that was the moment when i became an mgs fanboy. i had to reload an old save later when i found out that i'd actually killed him, but it's still awesome that you can

 

[AmMortal]

When Snake's Psyche gauge goes down during a cut-scenes, press X repeatedly to regain it.

 

[JaCk BuRtOn]

You made me cry Kojima, there i said it