gray_fox224
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ZeroTolerance said:
CQC, then use the syringe
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Metal Gear Solid 4 |OT| No Place to Hide, No Time for a Legend to FoxDie
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I think what I don't like about the ending is
Third time through and just watching my brother play Act 4 and the music kicking in-it's still really emotional
that it totally overshadows and undermines all Snake's actions-this is his last mission and he has just ended up being a hired gun as per usual-I guess Snake wasn't too surprised but I'd of liked Snake to have done something for himself.
Third time through and just watching my brother play Act 4 and the music kicking in-it's still really emotional
Dabookerman
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dark10x said:
I've never tested that out actually. Any good spots to try it?
Ganondorfo
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domlolz said:
I would have liked a
fight between old snake and big boss at the graveyard, just like big boss against the boss in snake eater with the track "debriefing"
Solideliquid
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Apple or Konami need to release a virtual MGS4 iPod on the XMB so we can listen to all the tracks without loading up a saved game.
Ganondorfo
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jjasper said:
The ending was good, but could have been more amazing, but the scene of
big boss salute to the grave of the boss just like he did in snake eater was the best scene of that ending
Well, when underground in the first area, you'll find that the battle above causes the lights to shake around changing the shadows below them. I did not try it myself, but you could probably shoot each of those lights as well (not break the light, but cause it to move).dabookerman said:
I know that, in the act III boss fight, the flying enemies all have a realtime light source attached to them that causes shadows to be cast all around you.
All of the shadows are realtime. They don't seem to use any pre-baked light maps at all.
I also haven't tried it, but you can purchase a flashlight for your gun and I'm sure it creates a realtime light source as well.
I'll have to fiddle around more on my second playthrough. Most of the areas you explore are large outdoor battlegrounds where the only light source would be the sun. Whenever there are minor lights present, however, they all seem dynamic (they properly cast shadows and display light on all objects).
Dark Octave said:
In my 3 play throughs of the game I've primarily used tranquilizer rounds. The first time, however, I used the sniper rifles quite a bit so I did end up with a decent amount of kills before I finished the game (something like 120 or so).
The 2nd time through I was going for a no kill/no alert run and ended up with 3 kills by accident. Still got no alerts though (granted this was on easy).
And of course, nothing but tranqs on my boss extreme run.
I've always preferred to tranq since it's always silenced and 1 shot anywhere in their body is guaranteed to drop them (just not always immediately depending on where they're hit).
I never felt right about running and gunning in a stealth game.
Gamer @ Heart
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Ganondorfo said:
It was wierd how something emotional would happen, the music would pick up.....then back down. More talking...music....he rises...more talking. but yeah, when he finnaly saluted her, it got to me. "It was good" was his last line right?
Gamer @ Heart
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Besides the pond in act 2, you canalso swim in the canals of Act 3. Sure, the water is extremly shallow, but you can still hide in it.
FlashbladeGAF
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jjasper said:
Your not.
When it went to the credits I wanted more,
MAJOR SPOILER DO NOT READ!!!! SERIOUSLY
the fact that he didn't commit suicide after all the build up was awesome. Snake, after all the crap that came his way, got to live the rest of his days in peace...hopefully. If anyone deserved it, it was him.
onimushroom
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I keep forgetting to mention one of the funniest scenes in the game for me.
It's when we first are introduced to Rat Patrol 01 and its member Jonathan (the huge mohawk dude).
His haircut and the accompanying "!" sound-effect were brilliant.
His haircut and the accompanying "!" sound-effect were brilliant.
jjasper said:
I liked it I just thought it would of ended better without it,it just seems like it's a twist which wasn't necessary
Also,
did Ocelot even have Liquid's arm?It didn't look like it or did I miss something in one of the dialogues(I know that he willingly took on Liquid's personality,which is something else I'm not too keen on either.I'd of preferred Liquid to have just taken Ocelot's body and leave it at that
Also,notice how Ocelot pretty much lets out that Big Boss is still alive at the end of Act 3?When he is talking to Snake.
Also,notice how Ocelot pretty much lets out that Big Boss is still alive at the end of Act 3?When he is talking to Snake.
Gamer @ Heart
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Roxas said:
Ah ok. Thank you.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
I thought the ending
was great! One of the problems MGS had was that there was no real connection to Big Boss. Sure we heard a lot about him but most people didnt play the MSX games and not until MGS3 did we really have a chance to fully enjoy the character. Seeing him physically alive talking with Snake at the ending brought the whole series full circle because we got to see what the character we played as in MGS3 had become rather than being told about it. It was reeeal weird and meta and I had all these emotions seeing Naked Snake and Solid Snake interact and see how they respected each other. If Snake had offed himself at the end, it would have been OK, but finally Snake now has a chance to live his own life for a little bit, something he never had the chance to do, and now we also have real closure to all of the MGS3 characters.
dark10x said:
Acts 3, 4, and 5 all feel shortchanged in terms of gameplay. They introduce a decent premise --
whether it's stealth in the city, in a blizzard, or on a ship
Also, for a game that's so focused on a great cinematic experience, I'm surprised you can't watch all the great moneyshot cutscenes throughout the game from a menu somehow. Oh well.
I finished Act 5 last night and went to bed. I will watch the Epilogue tonight. Looking forward to the series finale.
Gamer @ Heart
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Che, would you agree MGS4 the "game" stops in the middle of act 3 and MGS4 the movie with a side of fanservice begins?
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Gamer @ Heart said:
There isn't as much "game" but there's a whole lot of boss fights with plenty of game in them. Its like saying Shadow of the Colossus isn't a game because its all boss fights.
(what I think should have been done with act 5)
They should have re-introduced the stealth-on-the-battlefield gameplay by having the US troops, supplied with weapons from Drebin, board Outer Haven with Snake. It would have made perfect sense within the story, and allowed players to experience that cool style of gameplay one more time before the final scenes.
Attack You
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depward said:
And MGS2, and MGS1. A really curious omission. I wonder if the installs hindered this from being possible.
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Integral.Gamer @ Heart said:I think it needs to start with S however, looking back at the others.
Gamer @ Heart
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tha_con said:
Dont spoiler tag it. thats actually a really good name. I think it needs to start with S however, looking back at the others.
ThirstyFly
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Attack You said:
MGS2 didn't have a demo theatre. I checked both the standard version and Substance for it before MGS4, so I had to replay that one all over again. The closest it came was the cutscenne viewer in Document, but that didn't have sound.
Also I don't think the standard MGS3 had it either. MGS3:S did though.
Attack You
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ThirstyFly said:
Ohh, right. It's been a while.
Lifeonmars?
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Man, they need to remake MGS1-3 with MGS4 style gameplay and graphics.
Gamer @ Heart
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The installs prevent and sort of Movie viewer. Unless they patch it to allow you to install every chapter, i dont see it happening until the rerelease sadly.
ThirstyFly
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dhelfric said:
I can't remember what they called it, but in MGS2:S they had a casting theatre or something where you could replace the characters. There was only maybe 5 or so cutscenes though, not even close to being a full demo theatre like in MGS1/MGS3:S and Twin Snakes.
Lifeonmars?
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That would be kick ass.jjasper said:
Gamer @ Heart
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Lifeonmars? said:
if they are downloadable, i suggest you lower your expectations from MGS4 type levels. Just sayin.
Lifeonmars?
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Well yeah, but I'd take any remake of any past MG/MGS game. (except Snake's Revenge:lol ) I started replaying Sons of Liberty yesterday and I definitely missed the free camera and better gunplay.Gamer @ Heart said:
Gamer @ Heart
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jjasper said:
I know. i was refering to his previous post.
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