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[keyrat]

Thanks. Don't get me wrong, it isn't bad by any means, it just isn't as good as what I was playing before. I'm sure if the game started off like this, I would be enjoying it, but not in the middle. I guess I am just trying to rush through it to get to the next cutscene (story is awesome). Hopefully on my next playthrough I'll enjoy it more.

As an alternative solution, what I did is I just went around killing

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every PMC in that part, and I even killed the resistance member a few times. I never even used the signal interceptor. After all the PMCs are dead you can go find a new resistance member walking around. Just make sure you follow the resistance member when you're switching areas, and when you're done killing all the PMCs in one area, go back to where you first entered. A new resistance member should be around. I actually thought it was a bit lackluster not because of the sneaking, but because when the PMCs call for backup none actually arrives, so it's easy to kill them all.

 

[keyrat]

Oh, and you guys sound like a bunch of lame Star Wars fans discussing inconsistencies. Just enjoy it for face value, don't go back looking at every detail in the other games to see how they don't match up.

 

[No_Style]

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Also, I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe that the same Para-medic from MGS3 would eventually become the person that tortures Gray Fox by experimenting on his undying body while having him drugged for years.

Leave that to MGS5. :lol

 

[mckmas8808]

Did anybody tear up when

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Otacon was crying when he saw Niaomi at the end on the virus video feed?

 

[Darkpen]

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You weren't the least bit surprised when Naomi killer herself? You saw that coming huh? I'm sure Kojima was thinking "hey, let's do the fans a favor, and kill Naomi Hunter! While we're at it, let's put an end to Eva's life, and kill off Ocelot too! Hell, let's bring back Big Boss, and KILL HIM SECONDS LATER!

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....actually, I sort of did see Naomi dying in some way at some point, though I was hoping it wouldn't happen. It was sort of expected the moment she became Hal's love interest, lol D:

 

[Darkpen]

Quoted for metalmania4ever, and anyone else who's looking for it.

ooooooh, does it have MGS4 menu sound effects too?

Did anybody tear up when

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Otacon was crying when he saw Niaomi at the end on the virus video feed?

I didn't at that particular moment, but I did cry a whole lot throughout the ending of the game.

 

[Id.]

Did anybody tear up when

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Otacon was crying when he saw Niaomi at the end on the virus video feed?

I did! I teared up more when

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I heard Snake pull the trigger after putting the gun in his mouth. Hearing the gunshot made me get teary eyed...it didn't help that I felt sad!

Then after the credits, I felt a bit better because he didn't really shoot himself!

 

[∀ Narayan]

Did anybody tear up when

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Otacon was crying when he saw Niaomi at the end on the virus video feed?

Absolutely not.

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I was happy to see her go.

 

[Darkpen]

MGS4: Guns of the Patriots Theme

http://rapidshare.com/files/124328107/MGS4_Guns_of_the_Patriots.p3t.html

Hope you guy's enjoy!

Edit: Hopefully sounds will be coming at a later date. Until then, enjoy folks!

did you download the compiler that's included in the playstation blog zip file for ps3 theme making?

edit: oh... it doesn't show how D:!

you should try asking m0dus, he's added sounds to his themes before

 

[mckmas8808]

Absolutely not.

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I was happy to see her go.

Why?

 

[Darkpen]

Did anybody tear up when

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Otacon was crying when he saw Niaomi at the end on the virus video feed?

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to be honest, the crying that Otacon does in MGS4 isn't very convincing, or at least, its not as convincing as it was in MGS2, IMO. The acting and the face.... I dunno. It sort of broke the illusion for me, but I did feel sympathy for poor Otacon. I wanted him to be happy

Why?

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Probably hates Naomi

 

[∀ Narayan]

Why?

I've disliked her since the first Metal Gear Solid. Her selfish motives became pretty well ingrained at the time.

Plus, I thought that entire scene was pretty unconvincing. I felt it was over-dramatic.

 

[Darkpen]

I've disliked her since the first Metal Gear Solid. Her selfish motives became pretty well ingrained at the time.

Plus, I thought that entire scene was pretty unconvincing. I felt it was over-dramatic.

the way I see it, she slowly realized her wrongs during the course of the mission, and more or less grew to regret her actions. You really can't blame her, though.

Personally, the acting for Otacon was what broke both

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Naomi-related

scenes for me.

 

[trilobyte]

I got the game yesterday. So far it's cool, but I don't think I dig this new camera. I never played MGS3, so I dunno if the free-roaming cam is new to the series in MGS4 but I really liked the fix cam of the old games. I'm also not used to the radar system. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but didn't the radar used to give you the enemies view range?

I also must be REALLY rusty cause I die a lot >_<

 

[mckmas8808]

I've disliked her since the first Metal Gear Solid. Her selfish motives became pretty well ingrained at the time.

Plus, I thought that entire scene was pretty unconvincing. I felt it was over-dramatic.

The scene was great. The 2nd one. The way Kojima played it out was very well done.

 

[Tenden]

Question about the ending:

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Did Snake actually pull the trigger? The gun looked like it jammed...

 

[Formless]

Yeah I agree about the whole thing with the Patriots

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They should've been more than the MGS3 support team, more business tycoons/evil politicians please. The characters in MGS4 besides Snake and Naomi weren't really fleshed out, which is a downer. (Vamp's motivations, more of good ol' Otacon, etc)

 

[Solo]

My main complaint is the story. Instead of creating what he wanted to create like he did in MGS1, MGS2 and even MGS3, Kojima tried to please all of its fans by making a story that seems more like a ridiculous fanfic than an actual MGS game..

My main complaint too, but be prepared to be dragged over the coals for this opinion. Hell, the leader of the MGS4 defense force put me on ignore for it :lol

Best MGS game from a gameplay perspective, worst MGS game from a story perspective is how I like to break it down, quick and easy.

 

[∀ Narayan]

Question about the ending:

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Did Snake actually pull the trigger? The gun looked like it jammed...

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Yes, he pulled the trigger. He just couldn't kill himself because he didn't want to die.

 

[∀ Narayan]

^^^
DAMN IT!

The scene was great. The 2nd one. The way Kojima played it out was very well done.

To you, perhaps. To me, it was not very good at all.

 

[Ken Masters]

MGS4: Guns of the Patriots Theme

http://rapidshare.com/files/124328107/MGS4_Guns_of_the_Patriots.p3t.html

Hope you guy's enjoy!

Edit: Hopefully sounds will be coming at a later date. Until then, enjoy folks!

can this be Dled off the PS3 browser?

 

[Struct09]

the way I see it, she slowly realized her wrongs during the course of the mission, and more or less grew to regret her actions. You really can't blame her, though.

Personally, the acting for Otacon was what broke both

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Naomi-related

scenes for me.

What broke the scene for me is

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that I just didn't "feel" their relationship. It seemed short lived, so it was hard to get emotionally attached to it.

 

[J2 Cool]

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to be honest, the crying that Otacon does in MGS4 isn't very convincing, or at least, its not as convincing as it was in MGS2, IMO. The acting and the face.... I dunno. It sort of broke the illusion for me, but I did feel sympathy for poor Otacon. I wanted him to be happy

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Probably hates Naomi

:lol

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It's really not convincing at all. And all because he slept with her one night. He must be a clingy guy.

 

[∀ Narayan]

can this be Dled off the PS3 browser?

Yes.

 

[urk]

Personally, the acting for Otacon was what broke both

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Naomi-related

scenes for me.

Yeah, he came off as a

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whiny, whimpering

little

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bitch

. Very grating and borderline irritating. Of course, the follow up more than makes up for it and right up until the last moment of

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Act 4

, I was rocking such a massive

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boner

.

 

[pel1300]

Only thing I hated about Naomi is her dialogue.

God it was so corny at times.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

:lol

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It's really not convincing at all. And all because he slept with her one night. He must be a clingy guy.

Well when your only companions are Old Snake and a little girl who makes nasty eggs you'll take what you can get and hold on to it.

 

[Y2Kev]

Yeah, he came off as a

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whiny, whimpering

little

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bitch

. Very grating and borderline irritating. Of course, the follow up more than makes up for it and right up until the last moment of

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Act 4

, I was rocking such a massive

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boner

.

OTACON is a

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whiny little bitch. Dude has pissed himself a number of times. People say that Raiden was supposed to be MGS2's everyman, but the everyman was and always has been OTACON. By everyman I of course mean "everygamer." Make no mistake about it-- gamers disliked seeing themselves as Raiden, a helpless, immature, manipulated little fart but completely ignored that OTACON was the truer reflection of themselves. And it was hilarious!

Did no one else think that Naomi collapsing with the Mk 2 in her arms was some kind of nerd erotica? Ohhhh Naomi carress my electriboner ohhhh Naomi.

I loved it; it was so distinctly OTACON.

I would like to meet Christopher Randolph so I could shake his hand. A true video gaming man god.

 

[Kagari]

DAMNIT.

Act 5 :/

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Going through Outer Haven on harder difficulty is HARD. What's the best way to do this?

 

[Kagari]

OTACON is a

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whiny little bitch. Dude has pissed himself a number of times. People say that Raiden was supposed to be MGS2's everyman, but the everyman was and always has been OTACON.

Did no one else think that Naomi collapsing with the Mk 2 in her arms was some kind of nerd erotica? Ohhhh Naomi carress my electriboner ohhhh Naomi.

I loved it; it was so distinctly OTACON.

Haha, yeah...

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I felt sorry for Otacon though

 

[SRG01]

DAMNIT.

Act 5 :/

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Going through Outer Haven on harder difficulty is HARD. What's the best way to do this?

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Magazines, tranqs, and sneaking.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

DAMNIT.

Act 5 :/

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Going through Outer Haven on harder difficulty is HARD. What's the best way to do this?

Left!

LEFT!!

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Crawl as soon as Outer Haven starts.
Tranquilize 2 FROGS. Crawl ahead
Tranquilize 2 more FROGS further ahead. Crawl ahead
Tranquilize 2 more FROGS!! CRAWL AHEAD!!
You'll see a Gekko. Don't mess with it and keep left at all times.
Squeeze through a round barrier ahead of you.
Crawl!!

When you reach the door, a Gekko will jump in front of it. Don't worry, it's not facing the door or you and you have to make sure it stays this way. Once you reach the door, break your thumb by tapping triangle and you're all set

Your camo should be 90% to 95% if you use it well

 

[revolverjgw]

:lol

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It's really not convincing at all. And all because he slept with her one night. He must be a clingy guy.

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Well, you know, you can't say they weren't true to his character. That's exactly how he reacted to Sniper Wolf in MGS1. Same 'ol pathetic Hal.

 

[SaitoH]

Left!

LEFT!!

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Crawl as soon as Outer Haven starts.
Tranquilize 2 FROGS. Crawl ahead
Tranquilize 2 more FROGS further ahead. Crawl ahead
Tranquilize 2 more FROGS!! CRAWL AHEAD!!
You'll see a Gekko. Don't mess with it and keep left at all times.
Squeeze through a round barrier ahead of you.
Crawl!!

When you reach the door, a Gekko will jump in front of it. Don't worry, it's not facing the door or you and you have to make sure it stays this way. Once you reach the door, break your thumb by tapping triangle and you're all set

Your camo should be 90% to 95% if you use it well

Exactly what I did!

 

[Guled]

How do you roll to the side when you are hugging the ground?

 

[The Librarian]

Finally act 3 is picking up.

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I'm on the bike with Big Mama

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

How do you roll to the side when you are hugging the ground?

Tap triangle

 

[dralla]

Tap triangle

Triangle flips you over, to roll you hold L1, press the side you want to roll + X.

 

[victreeb3l]

Fuck, I can't find Twin Snakes anywhere! Just saw the 26 minute trailer on youtube and goddamnit I got such an itch to replay it..

AHHHHHHHH T_T NOOO. I don't wanna play 500 bucks on ebay either..

 

[The Librarian]

Okay. I love how the

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point of view changes while you are on the bike when you release L1

. It's so fucking cool looking.

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

Triangle flips you over, to roll you hold L1, press the side you want to roll + X.

Oh; didn't think there was a separate roll.

 

[Mromson]

Has anyone gotten the Litty Gray Acquire 69 unique weapons types (not counting the 1911). Emblem yet? I'm missing two guns :S (got all other emblems apart from Hound, Fox, FoxHound and Big Boss and 63 weapons atm..)

 

[∀ Narayan]

If anyone has any questions about certain moves in the game, they should really look at the briefing option in the START menu.

When I started the game, that's the first thing I did.

 

[Kagari]

Fuckfuckfuck. Damn respawning

 

[victreeb3l]

How cool was

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"I am lightning. The rain transformed" in that static-y voice of Raidens? Hell, how did he even generate lightning in the first place?

 

[bloody pirate]

Raiden is a god in this game.... there i said it

 

[Kagari]

I wish I had the stealth camo already :X

 

[J2 Cool]

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Well, you know, you can't say they weren't true to his character. That's exactly how he reacted to Sniper Wolf in MGS1. Same 'ol pathetic Hal.

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True. But the good thing about Sniper Wolf was that they left it off screen, and implied Otacon had been around awhile at Shadow Moses, and connected with her if only her at that site. Emma obviously was his sister, and a tragedy. This was just a culmination of a pathetic nature. Unfortunately you thought he grew through the series, as both MGS1 and 2 were deciated to his character development, but I guess not. They couldn't think of anything else for him to do for the story, but cry and be manipulated.

 

[dralla]

Why? The novelty of the stealth camo wears off pretty quickly? OctoCamo > Stealth Camo

 

[The Librarian]

I am fighting the

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Raging Raven

right now and I love how all the missiles she sends at you damage the immediate environment. I.e.,

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the building

.