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Metal Gear Solid 4 |OT| No Place to Hide, No Time for a Legend to FoxDie
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MScoutsDCI said:
I'm 99% sure the use of that in MGS3 was a joke, but my interpretation of that would be that The Patriots while being named after the Boss are also named after that since it is part of the same mission. To censor "Patriots" it only seems appropriate to use La-li-lu-le-lo, if you're looking back at that event.
Metalmurphy
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Just finished it 5 mins ago... man that was a long... LONG ending. And I'm hearing right now in the credits a new version of the MGS theme. So the song is in the game after all 
The engine really showed it self in the end of the game, some scenes looked so damn beautiful
The engine really showed it self in the end of the game, some scenes looked so damn beautiful
MScoutsDCI said:
You raise a good point, but they could have created that particular password without having a whole lot of meaning behind it, or without having any sort of direct reference to what we now know as the Patriots.
I totally see where you're coming from though, just trying to provide some kind of explanation for it. The more you get into trying to figure out every story nuance, the more each plot hole hurts when you discover it, you want so bad for it to all fit perfectly. That's my experience, anyway.
Metalmurphy said:The engine really showed it self in the end of the game, some scenes looked so damn beautiful
Some of the cemetery shots are just amazing, I love what they did there.
Attack You
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Metalmurphy said:Just finished it 5 mins ago... man that was a long... LONG ending. And I'm hearing right now in the credits a new version of the MGS theme. So the song is in the game after all
Yeah, the "new" theme is present in the Snake Eater soundtrack, too.
TIME PARADOX
The Librarian
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That makes it even funnier.keyrat said:
I thought it was due to all the rumors of MGS4 coming to the 360, and it would need to come on multiple discs, though. Boy was I mistaken.
Gokurakumaru
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Darkpen said:
Is that the bird Raven was modeled on? Wow.
Metalmurphy
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Here's my end game stats:
I know they're terrible
I know they're terrible
AlphaTwo00
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So, regarding a certain boss fight:
When Psycho Mantis shows up, he first freaks out over why there are no memory card ports. Then he goes with the DS3 for the "move controller" bit. Has anyone tried to get a MGS1/2/3 save file, and have a Memory Card reader plugged in?
fistfulofmetal
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I can't decide who's better looking, Lyndall Jarvis (Laughing Octopus) or Yumi Kikuchi (Raging Raven)
BeautifulMemory
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fistfulofmetal said:
Yumi's smiling pictures does it for me
MScoutsDCI said:
I think you're taking this part way too literally and/or you're looking at it the wrong way.
The segment you're referring to was something pulled out of
old spy movies where agents would use questions and answers to identify each other. La li lu le lo in this particular instance was nothing more than a keyword.
But, as for the word "Patriot" in relation to the story arc : FOX
use to use the words "Patriots" and "La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo" as identifiers. The Patriots organization came after FOX - there's really nothing preventing Zero (a former commander of FOX) from choosing the word "Patriots" as an organization name (especially considering all the connotations that the word "Patriot" carries with it(lloyalty and dedication to your country).
The word "Patriot" had another use in the game
given The Boss's gun was also called a Patriot, one can say that The Boss's death came was by a Patriot. Which hammers home the point that she died because of her loyalty and dedication to her country
when you consider her beloved pupil was behind the Patriot and he ultimately pulled the trigger that killed her
Lyndall Jarvis
Mieko Rye
Scarlett Chorvat
all gorgeous women
Google Imaging "Yumi Kikuchi" comes up with a smorgasborg of different images D:
Mieko Rye
Scarlett Chorvat
all gorgeous women
Google Imaging "Yumi Kikuchi" comes up with a smorgasborg of different images D:
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The Everyman
SNAAAAAAAAAAAAKE... ITS NOT OVER YET!Metalmurphy said:Just finished it 5 mins ago... man that was a long... LONG ending. And I'm hearing right now in the credits a new version of the MGS theme. So the song is in the game after all
The engine really showed it self in the end of the game, some scenes looked so damn beautiful
Just finished Act 3. OMG!!!! What an experience. The chase scene, everything. I almost teared up. This is truly the game of the forever, no game has EVER made me feel this way.
I cannot go any further tonight, my heart is racing, I have to get to sleep and tackle Act 4 tomorrow.
I don't want this game to end.
I cannot go any further tonight, my heart is racing, I have to get to sleep and tackle Act 4 tomorrow.
I don't want this game to end.
The Librarian
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How do you beat Vamp?
Classic_Gs
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Was it just me or was the ending
Well done Kojima, well done .
completely overwhelming with the amount of information that was given? Big Boss is alive?!?! What! He was held down by the system and then reconstructed with parts from Liquid and Solidus?!?! I didnt see that one coming, and it didnt make the most sense but it definitely was a jaw dropping moment. I really thought Snake had blown his brains out by that point so I was on the edge of my seat for that entire part.
So Liquid was really Ocelot and not Ocelot as Liquid? From the events of MGS2 I thought Liquid had taken over Ocelots mind (& body) but in the end of MGS4 it was Ocelot that had wanted Snake to succeed? I didnt fully understand what was going here, but dang that last boss battle was so awesome, and man the graphics! The sunset sky looked incredible and I mean jaw dropping incredible plus there was the changing life bars and music matching as they went through each of the games styles that fight was truly epic.
Did anyone else find the BB Corps to be rather easy? I beat all of them on my first try and didnt find them very hard at all. I still really enjoyed the fights and the different ways that had to be discovered to beat them was great, but they were just a little too easy. My favorite of all them would definitely be the Crying Wolf battle in the blizzard because of the nostalgia of fighting Sniper Wolf in the exact same location all those years ago. A close second would be the Laughing Octopus battle just because I found it to be very different and original. That and she actually hid in the freaking box on the shelf, haha so awesome.
MGS4 had so many fantastic moments that it is hard to pick a favorite but Act 4 in general I thought was the best part of the game. Being able to go back to Shadow Moses and have the dream sequence where you replay MGS 1 for a few minutes, and having the dialog replay while you retread familiar ground, it just added so much the experience. The battle with Vamp is very cool and the spilt screen battle between Vamp and Raiden while you defended REX is a great idea. If you try to shoot Raiden while he is fighting Vamp Snake repeats the famous line, no, I cant do it ala MGS 1. Also the Metal Gear versus Metal Gear is so intense and well done...dang that Act is so awesome.
I definitely have to mention the thrilling chase/driving sequences in both Act 2 & 3, with the ride with Big Mama being my favorite of the two. That part is so much fun plus it looks amazing. There are so many great pieces that make MGS4 the best game of this year and for the PS3. It took almost seven years to get a true sequel to MGS 2 and it better than I could have ever hoped for.
So Liquid was really Ocelot and not Ocelot as Liquid? From the events of MGS2 I thought Liquid had taken over Ocelots mind (& body) but in the end of MGS4 it was Ocelot that had wanted Snake to succeed? I didnt fully understand what was going here, but dang that last boss battle was so awesome, and man the graphics! The sunset sky looked incredible and I mean jaw dropping incredible plus there was the changing life bars and music matching as they went through each of the games styles that fight was truly epic.
Did anyone else find the BB Corps to be rather easy? I beat all of them on my first try and didnt find them very hard at all. I still really enjoyed the fights and the different ways that had to be discovered to beat them was great, but they were just a little too easy. My favorite of all them would definitely be the Crying Wolf battle in the blizzard because of the nostalgia of fighting Sniper Wolf in the exact same location all those years ago. A close second would be the Laughing Octopus battle just because I found it to be very different and original. That and she actually hid in the freaking box on the shelf, haha so awesome.
MGS4 had so many fantastic moments that it is hard to pick a favorite but Act 4 in general I thought was the best part of the game. Being able to go back to Shadow Moses and have the dream sequence where you replay MGS 1 for a few minutes, and having the dialog replay while you retread familiar ground, it just added so much the experience. The battle with Vamp is very cool and the spilt screen battle between Vamp and Raiden while you defended REX is a great idea. If you try to shoot Raiden while he is fighting Vamp Snake repeats the famous line, no, I cant do it ala MGS 1. Also the Metal Gear versus Metal Gear is so intense and well done...dang that Act is so awesome.
I definitely have to mention the thrilling chase/driving sequences in both Act 2 & 3, with the ride with Big Mama being my favorite of the two. That part is so much fun plus it looks amazing. There are so many great pieces that make MGS4 the best game of this year and for the PS3. It took almost seven years to get a true sequel to MGS 2 and it better than I could have ever hoped for.
Well done Kojima, well done .
The Librarian
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urk said:
Which syringe?
MickeyKnox
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The only one you have in your items.Dax01 said:
Have no weapon quipped and hit triangle while in CQC hold.
The Librarian
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Thanks Urky boy.:lol :lol I thought it was something extremely more complicated than this.urk said:Check your inventory.
Oh, no wonder I wasn't doing it correctly.MickeyKnox said:
Edit:
He's beaten.
DancingCactus77
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Can someone enlighten me:
That really bothered me in the ending.
How did Big Boss work with Naomi while he was in the coma under the Patriot's control? Did I miss something? When did Big Boss wake up from the coma?
That really bothered me in the ending.
Greatness Gone
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Just started this game earlier. Fuck Laughing Octopus, SRSLY, that bitch is scary. :-(
The Librarian
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Boy, I wish I didn't have to kill the suicide Geckos so I could watch the second Raiden v. Vamp fight.:lol :lol
G-Bus
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Fun game. Was expecting a little more out of Act 3 after reading so many posts saying how it really picks up there. I dunno, myabe it's just because I'm not so enthralled with the story, but it was a pretty boring act minus the bike chase part. Which, by the way... was fucking amazing.
So far act 2 is my favorite. Some good action parts to play through, and the ending cutscene with raiden was awesome <-- understatement.
Just 2 more acts to go. I hope the action picks up. I wanna sneak through some more war zones and fire fights. So intense.
So far act 2 is my favorite. Some good action parts to play through, and the ending cutscene with raiden was awesome <-- understatement.
Just 2 more acts to go. I hope the action picks up. I wanna sneak through some more war zones and fire fights. So intense.
Greatness Gone said:
LAUGH...LAUGH WITH ME!!
jaaz said:
lol dont worry, she says "BLACK OUT!" before it happens. Though I freaked out too until I saw what the TV said.
Also:
Killthee said:F$U has passed us and Fox Hound is right on our tail.
F$U only has 14 members (X_X
C'mon everyone ; ; Fox and Frog Unit arent even on the list.
Request: Can anyone who has a capture card (or the ability to capture audio) kindly get me the sounds from MGS4. I'd prefer all sounds, if you can turn off in game music, just get sounds of the inventory scrolling, and the menu sounds (this would include something like turning auto-aim on / off, as those are some of the sounds I want to use as well).
It'll be going into my MGS4 theme, as well as many new BG's (well, not "many" but a few!)
It'll be going into my MGS4 theme, as well as many new BG's (well, not "many" but a few!)
Shrinnan said:
No, you can't have a guest player. And, you can only have 1 char per PS3 system. If you want more slots you need to pay for them.
@Metalmurphey: I told you guys the metal gear theme was in the game. It's just called Metal Gear Saga in MGS4 instead of the main theme.
@Teknoman: We need some more active people. Everytime I login I'm lucky to see 3 people logged in on foxunit out of..61 members.
The Librarian
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Did Naomi "betray" Snake and the others so she could find out where Ocelot is hiding the nuke and tell them?
BudokaiMR2
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I would totally join you guys and help bring NEOGAF to the top
but you know Konami had to be retarded and say I can only play on the Japanese servers.
Grrrrr
but you know Konami had to be retarded and say I can only play on the Japanese servers.
Grrrrr
Dax01 said:
No, she never betrayed anyone. Her defecting to snake and everyone was part of ocelot's plan from the beginning so she could give them the virus. They had to do everything under the radar and make it believable so that the patriots wouldn't suspect foul play.
After the first Raiden vs Vamp fight, Vamp calls Ocelot and says, "Boss are you sure?" and Ocelot says, "It's all part of the plan."
It's a bit subtle, but that's how it is. Naomi definitely felt bad about everything she had done. When Otacon talks about scientists being used by evil to do their dirty work you can see it really bothers her. She feels really guilty about everything she's done.
After the first Raiden vs Vamp fight, Vamp calls Ocelot and says, "Boss are you sure?" and Ocelot says, "It's all part of the plan."
It's a bit subtle, but that's how it is. Naomi definitely felt bad about everything she had done. When Otacon talks about scientists being used by evil to do their dirty work you can see it really bothers her. She feels really guilty about everything she's done.
And that's how it is.
Yeah, I watched theDax01 said:
bike chase in Act 3
split screen
The Librarian
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Now I remember.1stStrike said:
So she told Snake and the others where Ocelot was planning to launch the nuke out of guilt?
Solideliquid
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Was it ever explained why the BB are named after the Foxhound members of MGS1? Did Ocelot do it just to mess with Snake's mind?
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