fistfulofmetal
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Metal Gear Solid 4 |OT| No Place to Hide, No Time for a Legend to FoxDie
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I'm not trying to crap on MGS4 by saying this, but I had a feeling before I played it that for me personally it wouldn't surpass MGS3, and my gut was right in that it didn't. It's still a remarkable achievement in gaming, but MGS3 has a sense of cohesion that I feel MGS4 lacks, and MGS4 did not impact me emotionally nearly as much as MGS3 did. For most people, that seems to be the opposite, but it just wasn't that way for me.
I'm not saying I was disappointed in MGS4; I wasn't overall. I still wish
, I thought that would have been one of the most memorable moments ever in gaming, although I did enjoy the twist otherwise provided. It's just that I was expecting a game slighlty less great than MGS3, and for me that's what I got. 3 is still the pinnacle in the series at this point.
After a lot of thought, I still feel that
I know these things have been said in various other ways in this thread, that I'm really not offering much in the way of new thought here. But it is the way I feel about the game. All said, still a remarkable title that will surely remain in "greatest games ever" lists for decades to come, deservedly so.
I'm not saying I was disappointed in MGS4; I wasn't overall. I still wish
we would have gotten to pull the trigger on Snake at the end
After a lot of thought, I still feel that
the end result of MGS4 was compromised to some degree from fan pressure, and that sucks. We still got an awesome product, don't get me wrong, but in the back of my mind I wonder what might have been if Kojima felt complete freedom to do exactly what he wanted. Who knows, maybe for the most part he did, the game is still on par with the level of excellence MGS is known for. I just can't help but think about Zelda: TP though, how we know for certain that one of the motivations behind that game was an attempt to bow to fanboy pressure. That isn't a bad thing in and of itself, but it is to whatever degree it limits the creator's creativity.
I know these things have been said in various other ways in this thread, that I'm really not offering much in the way of new thought here. But it is the way I feel about the game. All said, still a remarkable title that will surely remain in "greatest games ever" lists for decades to come, deservedly so.
CrushDance
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I agree in part. The ending while great wasn't what I think Kojima wanted to do originally, felt forced.Johnas said:
:lol
oh my god, so okay, I'm fighting
oh my god, so okay, I'm fighting
Vamp on TBE, right? and I try my normal approach, which is to fill him with the anti-tank sniper rounds, and I keep having trouble trying to kill him, so I think to myself "maybe I should try a stamina approach instead." So I go into my inventory, and I think "....the Sun gun... its from Boktai, the game about vampires, maybe this'll work"
So I try it, and bam, 1 shot stamina all the way down :lol holy crap
It actually took me a few tries to pull it off without him hitting me first, because I kept messing up in one way or another, but I pulled it off. Pretty fucking hilarious discovery though :lol oh god.
The best part is that Vamp burns after being shot by the Sun gun :lol
So I try it, and bam, 1 shot stamina all the way down :lol holy crap
It actually took me a few tries to pull it off without him hitting me first, because I kept messing up in one way or another, but I pulled it off. Pretty fucking hilarious discovery though :lol oh god.
The best part is that Vamp burns after being shot by the Sun gun :lol
Red Blaster
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kozmo7 said:
This, apparently, is lifted directly from the end of Policenauts.
Red Blaster said:
Seriously? I laughed at that part.
Oh, I really would like to find this out. Is anyone able to ID what type of sunglasses Liquid Ocelot wears?
Considering how many other things in the game are based off of real products this has to be a real brand, right? Maybe Japanese Gaf knows.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Does it make any difference whatosever if I kill or tranq the bosses in this version?
Crazymoogle
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Ploid 3.0 said:
The game *is* sneakily responsive about this stuff. Try calling
Rose
such as how Snake knows CQC.
Tranq all the bosses in their beast forms and a doll will appear somewhere on the stage during their beauty forms. Collect those. Also, you have to tranq all theh3ro said:
FROGs in the Advent Palace
solar gun
MickeyKnox
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You can get away with it on the easier difficulties, but from BB hard and up it gets really intense, but still fun as hell.Maggot9 said:
I wish there was a way to activate that mode as the default melee system of the main game.
Um, I thought Ocelotsonicmj1 said:
was genuinely under Liquid's control at that point. Either MGS4 or the Database or both mentioned that he was finally able to maintain control of his own mind after grafting a cybernetic arm between his body and Liquid's forearm. After that, he pretended to have been taken over by Liquid via hypnosis, self-suggestion and all that. That means, in MGS2, whenever he appeared to be taken over by Liquid, he really was, but in MGS4, it was all Ocelot.
Has anyone here actually gotten the Big Boss rating? I've always thought I was above average at MGS but holy christ is that impossible for me.
Same with Fox Hound or Fox or Hound.. hell some of these ratings seem impossible, just like in MGS3.. I must suck haha
Same with Fox Hound or Fox or Hound.. hell some of these ratings seem impossible, just like in MGS3.. I must suck haha
I don't know about you guys, but after looking up info on Yumi Kikuchi and how much she's involved with Kojima Productions, I get the feeling something's going on between her and Kojima. Maybe it's nothing more than an artist/muse type of relationship a la Quentin Tarantino and Uma Thurman. But, can you blame the guy if there was something really going on there?
I certainly can't blame him.
I certainly can't blame him.
Act 3 Question / Problem
I just started Act 3 and I have to track the resistance member, however after getting noticed the first time and starting over I am unable to find him again. All I can hear is the resistance guy whistling. After looking for him for 5 mins or so Otacon says I've lost my non-existent target. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
blindrocket
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Has a site listed all of the known easter eggs and culture references in MGS4 yet? I am sure a lot of been posted in this thread but that would be a lot of hunting and pecking.
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet or not, but we were talking at work about Drebin and how that is the name of the Leslie Neilsen's character from the Naked Gun films. Drebin strips the ID from guns thus making them a "naked gun."
Another thing, I was looking through the manual for the first time (after I beat the game, lol) and I noticed Drebin's name is misspelled as Dorebin.
Look on page 30, the bottom of the middle picture where he is holding out the hand grenade.
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet or not, but we were talking at work about Drebin and how that is the name of the Leslie Neilsen's character from the Naked Gun films. Drebin strips the ID from guns thus making them a "naked gun."
Another thing, I was looking through the manual for the first time (after I beat the game, lol) and I noticed Drebin's name is misspelled as Dorebin.
Look on page 30, the bottom of the middle picture where he is holding out the hand grenade.
Pop On Arrival
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rcua1884 said:
No one can resist Kojimas charm
untoldhero
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Sorry for being a pain and i'm sure it's been asked before but what are the ultimate requirements for Big Boss rank?
kozmo7 said:
You just need to make use of the ipod, play carefully (and quickly) and avoid being shot often
And yea, certain parts of the game could take 1 - 2 hours of restarting to get it right.
I actually had to redo all of chapter 5 after I had beaten the game, finally got through the credits and..had 1 kill in the
screaming mantis
PIMPBYBLUD
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blindrocket said:
Quoted for awesomeness, where and how does Kojima come up with this shit?
That's fucking ingenious, I can't believe I never thought of that earlier! That said, I've managed to go through it (up to Act 5 now) without any unexpected kills at the end of each cchapter, apart from my first run through Act 1, where I got 1 kill and I didn't even know where.Stillmatic said:
D:
THAT TOOK FOREVER ; ;
So many freaking retries, but I finally did it. Now all I need to do is get the Altair outfit, and I'm all set. Maybe even try for the Chicken emblem, but maybe later.
Seriously though, that
bike chase w/ Eva was a bitch. Smoke grenades and auto-aim twin barrel v-ring shots ftw
Lifeonmars?
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She takes her glasses off for Kojima.kozmo7 said:
I'm not sure if that's actually related to theDarkpen said:
Solar Gun. I knocked out all his stamina in one hit with V.Ring shots once on my first play through, this was after he had "died" and revived twice IIRC. My guess is that because he had just revived, he takes a lot more damage in one hit in certain circumstances. The burning thing, I'll have to check that out.
Jack Scofield
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Where do I find the "Rock Me Baby" iPod song?
And how do I enable auto-aim? Nothing happens when I press Square, except for a noise.
And how do I enable auto-aim? Nothing happens when I press Square, except for a noise.
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