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Metal Gear Solid 4 |OT| No Place to Hide, No Time for a Legend to FoxDie
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overthehill99
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How. Can you switch to the Mosin Nagant or do you just sit there?Steroyd said:
Ken Masters
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I am trying to unlock the Stealth Camo and I know you need to get this by not getting a single alert
If I do get an alert do I have to just quit the game every time? or can I just get killed? Because I don't see any load game option, just save option
If I do get an alert do I have to just quit the game every time? or can I just get killed? Because I don't see any load game option, just save option
BobTheFork
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I still have no clue how I got through that on BB hard, and thats the part I'm at on my BBxtreme run : (. The only thing I can suggest is toSteroyd said:
hit the jeep gunner first and FAST. They will kill the most life. Also you can save after every single part of the chase, so restart and get through it with more health if you have to. You get you health restored during the last part so that helps. I found grenades to not be helpful at all. Have the double barrel loaded with v-ring ammo too. Make sure you hit one of the jeep gunner during the slow-mo jump. good luck
AzRim904 said:Zero Punctuation review is up! Some funny parts, and most of you will hate it
Yeah it's not nice when he doesn't play the game properly and tells lies. Like 'Snake takes 1 second to ready his gun before shooting' only happens if you emptied your magazine and didn't bother reloading before putting it away. And apparently you have infinite tranq rounds? And you 'have to press L1 AND R1 AND triangle to shoot'? wtf!
Yes, i'm a MGS fanboy. So what.
alr1ghtstart said:
oh, right, the long loading sequence at the beginning of the act (with no "now loading" sign). I thought the game had frozen, for a sec, but forgot all about it
yeah, I thought he was talking about the "HIDEO 2" fake blank screen during the screaming mantis fight
yeah, I thought he was talking about the "HIDEO 2" fake blank screen during the screaming mantis fight
my bad, sorry about that
Ken Masters
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sonicmj1 said:
damn, this is going to be a bitch then
do you suggest I just play it on a easy difficulty ?
Ken Masters said:
you have to either restart or load a previous save. if you kill yourself and continue the game, the alert (and whatever you did until you died) will still count
fake edit: still haven't finished the game, but that's how it worked in the previous titles.
iirc there used to be a few more requirements as well, besides not triggering any alerts. you also had to get 0 kills, 0 deaths/continues, less than X number of saves, less than 1 lifebar of total damage and complete the game in less than X hours
Ken Masters
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atomico said:
what you described is getting the
big boss emblem
stealth camo is just no alerts
but how much easier would it be on a easier difficulty setting for no alerts?
Kydd BlaZe
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Lol, if I did that, there wouldn't be much left of the game. And not only that, i'd miss out on the story. I just felt that the cutscenes were ridiculously long with a lot of unecessary dialouge.Baryn said:
Paranoid_Robot
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What part of the game was Shane from 1UP talking about that he wanted changed?
I thought it was Act 3 but I can't remember.
I love this game despite some of its flaws, I've already said it's the best game I've played this generation so far. However did anyone else feel that the start of Act 5 is incredibly difficult compared to the rest of the game?
I want to play through it again and this time I will try and sneak by it but on my first playthrough I just run and gunned it and had to use about 6 rations o something :s
I thought it was Act 3 but I can't remember.
I love this game despite some of its flaws, I've already said it's the best game I've played this generation so far. However did anyone else feel that the start of Act 5 is incredibly difficult compared to the rest of the game?
I want to play through it again and this time I will try and sneak by it but on my first playthrough I just run and gunned it and had to use about 6 rations o something :s
Lord Error
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It was pretty easy for me, but I was sneaking. OK, that's exaggerating - it wasn't pretty easy, but not nearly as hard as some other places in the game. I got through I think on my 3rd attempt.Paranoid_Robot said:
Lemming_JRS
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Darkpen said:
As a former English major, you probably won't care for mine either, but here it is anyway:
I like to divide the narrative into two parts: the story and the writing. The story in all the Metal Gear games has always been entertaining, if a little too convoluted for its own good. That's never bothered me. It's all part of the fun, part of the genre that Kojima helped create.
What's always bothered me is the writing, and by writing, I mean the actual words coming out of the character's mouths. Very few scenes made me feel like I was witnessing real human emotions -- the best written scene in the game, in my opinion anyway, was the one in Act 3
where Snake and Meryl talk in the train station.
Big Boss in the graveyard was kind of cool for the character reveal, and then it turned into a 30 minute blah blah blah fest and felt like a huge wasted opportunity.
The other problem with the writing? There's way too much of it. I'm all for expressing a viewpoint through your characters, but for chrissakes, there are ways to do it that aren't so heavy-handed, long-winded, or frankly, boring. Did Naomi's talk about nanomachines prior to
the fight with Laughing Octopus
Naomi is dying and Otacon is crying, Otacon's crying turns from sad to laughable because he has to keep on crying through Naomi's long, long farewell speech. If she had gotten her point across quickly, I might've felt something for him, but instead it turned something that could've been sad into something ridiculous.
And yeah, I realize that I could've skipped the cutscenes. But frankly, that's half the reason you buy these games. Still had fun playing the game, but I hope that Kojima spends a little bit of money on a good copy editor next time.
BruceLeeRoy
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Ephemeris said:
Man I cant tear myself away from single player.
I promise ill get to it.
BobTheFork said:
Yeah just got up to this part, lost so much life in the 1st section had half of the first bar lol, that meant one bullet in the next area meant death. :/
Tranqs for this are bs, unless you've got eagle aim, which i haven't got, frogs don't seem to get a delay if you don't hit them in the head which is nice.
Lemming_JRS said:As a former English major, you probably won't care for mine either, but here it is anyway:
I like to divide the narrative into two parts: the story and the writing. The story in all the Metal Gear games has always been entertaining, if a little too convoluted for its own good. That's never bothered me. It's all part of the fun, part of the genre that Kojima helped create.
What's always bothered me is the writing, and by writing, I mean the actual words coming out of the character's mouths. Very few scenes made me feel like I was witnessing real human emotions -- the best written scene in the game, in my opinion anyway, was the one in Act 3It had dialogue that actually sounded like something people would actually say in that situation. And yeah, the epilogue withwhere Snake and Meryl talk in the train station.Big Boss in the graveyard was kind of cool for the character reveal, and then it turned into a 30 minute blah blah blah fest and felt like a huge wasted opportunity.
The other problem with the writing? There's way too much of it. I'm all for expressing a viewpoint through your characters, but for chrissakes, there are ways to do it that aren't so heavy-handed, long-winded, or frankly, boring. Did Naomi's talk about nanomachines prior toneed to go on for 20 minutes? Are there ways that Kojima could've used a few sentences instead of a few paragraphs? Hell yes. The over-expository dialogue ends up working against the emotional content that Kojima's trying to hard to create. At the end of Act 4 whenthe fight with Laughing OctopusNaomi is dying and Otacon is crying, Otacon's crying turns from sad to laughable because he has to keep on crying through Naomi's long, long farewell speech. If she had gotten her point across quickly, I might've felt something for him, but instead it turned something that could've been sad into something ridiculous.
And yeah, I realize that I could've skipped the cutscenes. But frankly, that's half the reason you buy these games. Still had fun playing the game, but I hope that Kojima spends a little bit of money on a good copy editor next time.
Agreed.
On a side note, I would say that Kojima knows how to set up an amazing cutscene, but in most cases a certain cutscene may lose its impact due to bad voice over by one of the characters or when its stretched too long. My favourite cutscenes aren't the lavishly staged Raiden fights but more subtle scenes such as :
- Big Boss's CQC hug.Snake's confused expression in it was spot on.
(But the whole big boss scene should've been quick and not as long as it was.)
- When Eva is sitting next to the wall hurt and says "is that you" and we see naked snake in a flash back. You can feel the longing in Eva's voice.
- When Otacon cries and we see flashbacks of Sniper wolf, EE and that sad tune play as Naomi dies. It got me but instantly but the impact went away when Chirstopher Randolph sounded completely composed (a bit too quick) saying that he's done crying.
- The montage split-screen scene when snake is going through the microwave room. Was probably second best handled scene after the "3 days later" graveyard scene. Excellent choice of music.
(But the whole big boss scene should've been quick and not as long as it was.)
- When Eva is sitting next to the wall hurt and says "is that you" and we see naked snake in a flash back. You can feel the longing in Eva's voice.
- When Otacon cries and we see flashbacks of Sniper wolf, EE and that sad tune play as Naomi dies. It got me but instantly but the impact went away when Chirstopher Randolph sounded completely composed (a bit too quick) saying that he's done crying.
- The montage split-screen scene when snake is going through the microwave room. Was probably second best handled scene after the "3 days later" graveyard scene. Excellent choice of music.
My favourite cutscene in the whole game was:
The intial scene in the "3 days ago" graveyard scene. Hayter isn't for once growling, and sounds hopeless as he asks for test results. The whole scene was a high point for the game (cinematography,voice acting,graphics), but the only thing that slighlty ruined it was campbell's forced "Track.Him.Down." Loved the part where he stares at his hand.
BruceLeeRoy
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Fricken hell MGS4 is ruining me!
I was checking out some new R2 and Gears 2 screens and my god I am so underwhelmed and uninterested
whereas just a couple days before I played MGS I was so excited. The graphics of both of them look like
nothing special at all anymore and I remember being so blown away by the presentation.
I was checking out some new R2 and Gears 2 screens and my god I am so underwhelmed and uninterested
whereas just a couple days before I played MGS I was so excited. The graphics of both of them look like
nothing special at all anymore and I remember being so blown away by the presentation.
MiamiWesker
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Guzim said:
No its similar but its not. It probably has to do with the resistance Eva set up, they whistle it. Maybe she picked it up after Raiden and them saved her.
MiamiWesker
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140.85 said:
I could not stand it, the singing hurt my ears. My least favorite end credits song.
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