I just completed the game for the 6th time (yeah I'm crazy) and the emotional impact this game has on me hasn't toned down one bit. Actually, the more "free" I am from the need of understanding the story, the more I appreciate and get moved by the emotional layer of the whole. No game nor movie nor book spur so many different emotions in me. I'm afraid the bar was set so high with MGS4 I'm not going to enjoy games on an emotional level this much till I die. Or the next MG, of course.
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Metal Gear Solid 4 |OT| No Place to Hide, No Time for a Legend to FoxDie
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dermannmitdemcolt
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zoukka said:
Yep I did. Still, most of the fights are ok, but nothing special.
Octopussysb) camo games were neat but everything else was lame. What the fuck were those mini-missiles? And that roll attack :lol
To be honest, this roll attack caused me a lot of problems. Maybe I just suck. But I really liked this fight. Awesome atmosphere too.
I actually love the premise and their design. Awesome work by Shinkawa like always. And unlike the laughable Cobra Unit they had a backstory. Sure, it was not as fleshed out as it could've been, but it was good enough for me. Better than nothing at least.
GoncaloCCastro
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TTP said:
I completely get you, I'm doing my 4th playthrough and I still love watching the lenghty cinematics and briefings, controlling the MkII and watching the faces of characters really shows the depth they went in animating their expressions. I'm serious in love with the game!
travisbickle
Member
Just had it delivered, my flatmate told me (she signed for it). I haven't even got a PS3 but I got the game for £27, so I'm round to my Bro-in-laws with his 1080p 40" for my "passive experience" this weekend
And here's where I disagree. Cobra unit was this old relic from old wars (NES times baby!) and they were designed to look that way. Fitted in the bond-esque atmosphere too. And much like Snake getting obsolete in the new age this was true to Cobras but with even heavier impact. Their death was the initiation for Naked Snake. And I'm not even sure if they fought with everything they had...
B&B felt like a knee to my groin after Cobras... I really expected them to be deformed and "scarred by war" but they were just loosely tied to some stupid emotions due to those overly cruel "backstories".
I wasn't even sure if they died after I beat 'em?? Guess those faces were trademarks that could not be harmed :/
And if you see B&B as "good" shinkawa design then our tastes are the opposite polarities.
James Power
Banned
I loved it how in the end
bitch. :lol
they simply put a skin texture on Meryl's model which makes her look like a bodybuilding
ENVG = thing-that-makes-the-game-easier.glaurung said:
I doubt that items that you can pick up and ladders would realistically glow.
Well, when the MGS novel came out a few days before MGS4's release, we learned that Dr. Clark was a female, so it softened the blow a little.SamuraiX- said:LOL! Nice. :lol
You must have been yelling pretty damn loud.
But for me, what really made me stand up and yell "WHAT?!?!?!" was...
Para-Medic and Dr. Clark being the same person.
That was a huge WTF moment for me for some strange reason. lol
Zedsdeadbaby
Banned
looooooooooooool
I just saw that Big Boss's cigar does the 3RROD on the end just before he dies
Opus Angelorum
Member
So I've just finished Act Two and my initial impressions have been validated, both for and against. I'll post the negatives later when I give them more thought.
Good
- The cut-scenes are phenomenal, the parts involving
at the end blew me away. Incredible fidelity and attention to detail.
- In general most of Act Two (particularly the beginning) is a much better environment to highlight the subtleties of stealth. Having to use the Solid Eye to track movement makes the mechanic much more rewarding.
Good
- The cut-scenes are phenomenal, the parts involving
Laughing Octopus
- In general most of Act Two (particularly the beginning) is a much better environment to highlight the subtleties of stealth. Having to use the Solid Eye to track movement makes the mechanic much more rewarding.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
I finished MGS4 a while ago but i never posted my impressions after finishing it, so I'll do it now. Its nothing detailed, just a few good points and bad points.
The good:
The gameplay in the first two acts is some of the best MGS gameplay ever.
Octocamo was a brilliant addition. So too were all the other tools you had for sneaking around (such as the solid eye, mk II)
Just about all the plot holes had been covered and the story has been tied together.
Some of the cutscenes were just brilliant.
The is the best looking game I've played.
Gun customisation was a good feature
The bad:
Act 3
Not enough gameplay. The game should have been longer and there should have been more
gameplay bits.
The boss battles didnt live upto the MGS3 boss battles.
Gekko's were not as difficult to fight as I was hoping they would be. They looked so agile in the trailers, but not so agile in the actual game. All you had to do was equip the Javelin and blow the gekko up. Its too easy. I wouldnt have minded it if that was all you had to do kill them, but only if they could defend themselves or atleast dodge the incoming missles. They werent as dangerous as they looked
At times it was too easy because you had so many guns to choose from. No M4 bullets? Thats no problem, you could just switch to the Mk-17, or you could use any of the other assault rifles, or you could just buy more M4 bullets. What they should have done is significantly lower the number of guns and make it harder to find ammo and more expensive to buy it. That would have made things more challenging.
Although the gun customisation was good, each gun could have been customised in the same way. There should have been more variety
The B&B's stories and the way they died made me cringe, but not as much as the point above.
The good:
The gameplay in the first two acts is some of the best MGS gameplay ever.
Octocamo was a brilliant addition. So too were all the other tools you had for sneaking around (such as the solid eye, mk II)
Just about all the plot holes had been covered and the story has been tied together.
Some of the cutscenes were just brilliant.
The is the best looking game I've played.
Gun customisation was a good feature
The bad:
Act 3
Not enough gameplay. The game should have been longer and there should have been more
warzone
The boss battles didnt live upto the MGS3 boss battles.
Gekko's were not as difficult to fight as I was hoping they would be. They looked so agile in the trailers, but not so agile in the actual game. All you had to do was equip the Javelin and blow the gekko up. Its too easy. I wouldnt have minded it if that was all you had to do kill them, but only if they could defend themselves or atleast dodge the incoming missles. They werent as dangerous as they looked
At times it was too easy because you had so many guns to choose from. No M4 bullets? Thats no problem, you could just switch to the Mk-17, or you could use any of the other assault rifles, or you could just buy more M4 bullets. What they should have done is significantly lower the number of guns and make it harder to find ammo and more expensive to buy it. That would have made things more challenging.
Although the gun customisation was good, each gun could have been customised in the same way. There should have been more variety
Meryl and Johnny getting married was so fucking stupid
The B&B's stories and the way they died made me cringe, but not as much as the point above.
Zedsdeadbaby
Banned
The boss fights are a lot simpler compared to Snake Eater, but those were agonizing and annoying boss fights anyway. The End and The Fear were especially tiresome (especially if you didn't have the thermal goggles in time for Fear). The BB Corps just seem a lot simpler/easier because of the control system. Snake Eater was only hard because its controls sucked arse.
Yeah, I think most of the MGS3 fights would have become cake with the new control scheme. The End would have remained every bit as awesome with the new controls, however.Zedsdeadbaby said:
I would love to replay Snake Eater with all of the improved mechanics of MGS4.
Zedsdeadbaby
Banned
zoukka said:
Eh? I beat Snake Eater on European Extreme mode several times over. 'You're' enthusiasm amuses me. If you really did enjoy the boss fights in Snake Eater and had no problems with the control scheme then good for you - but you're in the minority here.
crowphoenix
Banned
psycho_snake said:
This was probably the only moment in the plot that annoyed me. It was a very "Wait. What? Seriously?" moment.
Lostconfused
Member
What, none of you saw it coming? Johny isnt going to suddenly become a regular character just so he can remain comic relief for the entire duration of the game.crowphoenix said:
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Simply not true. Tactics and techniques against bosses were largely the same between the games. In fact, this time Octopus, Vamp and Mantis provided some new tricks that you needed to figure out, most of which I found very amusing. There are lots of neat trickery and easter eggs associated with these bosses, you are probably just not aware of that yet, just as you weren't aware ofzoukka said:
DS3 / Siaxis thing during Psycho Mantis' appearance
KennyLinder
Member
Is there a way of unlocking the April Fools day version of the Assassins Creed costume? Remember the video they released? The costume in the game is different to that
(even the one you find in the underground tunnel in Act 1)
Zedsdeadbaby
Banned
KennyLinder said:
Yeah - 50CQC grabs and 50 Knife kills while maintaining under 25 alerts I believe. Just grab them and slit their throats, that counts as both CQC and knife kill. Using the stealth camo makes this very very very easy.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
It is available if you finish the game with the "Assassin" emblem, and will also be available by entering secret code in the Extras screen. Codes will be released by Konami at a later date.KennyLinder said:
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Hey guys,
2 quick questions.
Does blowing up any of the tanks in act 1 on extreme Big Boss count as kills or against
me in any way?
I cant advance past the "NOW LOADING" screen at the end of act 1. Tried rebooting and it
still wont go past it. Anyone have any ideas?
2 quick questions.
Does blowing up any of the tanks in act 1 on extreme Big Boss count as kills or against
me in any way?
I cant advance past the "NOW LOADING" screen at the end of act 1. Tried rebooting and it
still wont go past it. Anyone have any ideas?
Ploid 3.0
Member
BruceLeeRoy said:
No, only if the projectile you used didnt cause a nearby soldier to die also. I'm on a TB extreme run and I blew up the first tank before the underground so they would like me and let me pass speedly. I finished the act with 0 kills. Well I did aim at the turret on the top of the tank (black tank, not the tank with the dude at the turret. The drebin kind that the solders ran out of in a quick cutscene).
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
SRG01 said:
Great thanks man ill try that.
AndresON777
shooting blanks
I personally liked the meryl and johnny marriage, mainly because I liked seeing meryl's guns in all their glory. She has some great arms and bod, HOT!
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Suck..
Didnt work probably should just reformat.
Didnt work probably should just reformat.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
SRG01 said:
Its the first save you can do in Act 1 right after the Title for MGS4 comes up.
Ill try re installing it again and then just playing up to that part and see what happens.
Thanks for the help though I appreciate it.
DCharlie said:
Congrats man. Its quite the roller coaster ride isn't it.
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