Bearillusion
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What did you like about it? On reflection MGS4 is pretty disappointing. Just the amount of loading interuptions particularly in chase scenes soured the whole thing to a degree. Add in respawning enemies....
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Facism
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i agree. The middle east and South America felt too short.
Shadow Moses felt like a massive missed opportunity. It felt like they used it for nostalgia's sake and stopped there. Could have been turned into a mini MGS1 section with FROGs and Gekko, rather than a historic and painless jaunt towards cutscenes and Vamp.
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Fizzle said:
You have to wait for her to be hidden and shoot her then.
Dabookerman
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I really want a Ga-Ko, are they rare?
Roude Leiw
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Gako makes an appearance in the newest installment as a kitchen timer, Solid Snake used it as a camouflage in Metal Gear Solid 3 and in Metal Gear Online as well as Metal Gear portable OPs, this little mascot appears as an item.Roude Leiw said:
does anyone have a pic of this?
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Fizzle said:
She only deflects bullets when she's "retreating," other wise she's open. And like Seiken said, it doesn't matter what part of the body you shoot her, it does the same damage.
Are you using the Mosin Nagant sniper rifle? Makes it easier. Sleeping Gas mines are also really effective.
Are you using the Mosin Nagant sniper rifle? Makes it easier. Sleeping Gas mines are also really effective.
indigo-cyclops
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Blablurn said:
So true. The buildup to the release was so awesome and it felt so good to finally play it. It fizzled out for me, at least MGO did but lately I've been considering a revival. I love the game despite some of its flaws. Damn what a game, what a fucking game.
I'm a MGS2-hater, and avoided MGS3 at all cost because of it. Now after having bought and played MGS4 I just want to say that I enjoyed the game surprisingly well. As expected it's staccato, but still good. Cutscenes are awful (I watched all of them in full, and they are very well crafted, but they just go on and on and on and on even after whatever point has been made), and the story is awful if you take it seriously, but the game itself sure is a high quality game, and most importantly; mostly fun. Money well spent.
Philanthropist
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bj00rn_ said:
Congratulations on missing the best MGS title. I guess you don't know there are aspects in MGS3 with the purpose of satisfying those who didn't like MGS2.
Dabookerman
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June is the daddy of months. Will never forget.
Augemitbutter
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so much to play or i would jump right back into the game for the xxxx time.
perfect game, besides the low-codec fun this time.
perfect game, besides the low-codec fun this time.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Tell me about it... this'll be my fifth time through the game but I made a promise. I wouldn't even touch the game until it's patched with trophies!ilanna said:
fail D:bj00rn_ said:
But seriously, guys, what I posted earlier this morning...
I was taking a shower, and as usual, I was just doing freeflow thinking, when suddenly, I realized, "beauty killed the beast."
The whole freaking "Beauty and Beast" thing with MGS4 stems from the freaking MGS2 King Kong thing. Jesus. I mean, sure, technically they further explore what the terms imply (though honestly, the B&B corp was poorly executed as a boss group, especially with Drebin explaining everything). Not to mention, there's a distinct overuse of the beast analogy with Snake and Raiden's existence that's difficult to decipher as to exactly what they mean.
But seriously, it was that damned King Kong reference.
that light/darkness/extinguish analogy that Eva gives before her death was kind of really crappy, though.
GeneralIroh
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got any pics of the life size statue, tshirts,stickers and photo album?-COOLIO- said:
Wasn't the 1st place winner a kid?
Its gonna be lol seeing a little kid's face on an adult soldier's body.
Facism
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Seiken said:I played MGO a lot and loved every minute of it... I still have no idea why PS3 crashes when starting MGO
is that the problem? I always thought your copy of MGS4 was cracked or something physical and you were yet to replace it.
Doesn't really matter now, loads of the original Bee guys left for other clans without realising you couldn't get involved and admin the clan. Wasp is pretty much stagnant, the 30 or so people outside of the 8 of us who played regularly were never active ;p
Think Dave was playing some MGO tonight, was tempted to join in. If the new expansion is at a proper price (ie not £8, but £4) i'll probably jump in after checking how healthy the player count is. Was increasing when i stopped playing.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yeah that was it, I couldn't replace it since I bought it from the states and I live in EuropeFacism said:
I'll pretty sure I'll end up buying a new copy of the game soon, for two reasons: support Kojima Productions and finally being able to play MGO.Yeah I'm buying the new expansion even though I won't be able to play it :lol Anything to support.Facism said:
Oh yeah I still can't believe that MGO, out of all the frustrating games out there, was the game that fucked up my Sixaxis :lol I played so many games with my cousin where we had this rule "only CQC". So I'd get stunned and I had to push the analog stick back and forth while shaking the controller at the same time (for maximum effect!). Hours, days later, my Sixaxis said "Fuck you man, I can't handle this shit!"
:lol
Facism
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Seiken said:Yeah that was it, I couldn't replace it since I bought it from the states and I live in Europe
Yeah I'm buying the new expansion even though I won't be able to play it :lol Anything to support.
Oh yeah I still can't believe that MGO, out of all the frustrating games out there, was the game that fucked up my Sixaxis :lol I played so many games with my cousin where we had this rule "only CQC". So I'd get stunned and I had to push the analog stick back and forth while shaking the controller at the same time (for maximum effect!). Hours, days later, my Sixaxis said "Fuck you man, I can't handle this shit!"
bro add me to your psn friends list (surprised we're not on each other's FL).
PSN: Live_Feed
If you manage to get back into MGO, i'll give it a shot. R2 incoming too
My only pad issues at the moment is a squeaky R2 trigger due to Fifa 09 sprinting ;p
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
You're not on my friends list, what the hell? I hope I didn't accidentally delete you yesterday when I was checking through my friends on PSN. I deleted anyone who hadn't signed in on PSN for the last 30 days... but I guess you've been online? Anyway, will add you tomorrow!
There's a couple of games that I'm buying that are coming this year with online, namely LBP, R2 and Pacific Rift!
There's a couple of games that I'm buying that are coming this year with online, namely LBP, R2 and Pacific Rift!
Roude Leiw
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i want to play mgs4 and mgo, but i cant, because i have no ps3 ;_; damn you sony:lol
(thank god that i was able to borrow my friends ps3 last june to play the game at least once)
(thank god that i was able to borrow my friends ps3 last june to play the game at least once)
Just started Act 5 and I'm starting to suck now for some reason.
I'm failing in the worst way sneaking past the F.R.O.G.s patrolling the area. I'm going to try playing dead and see if that works. It probably won't, but at this point I'm hoping that they'll pick Snake up and trigger a cut scene where they deliver his supposed dead body to Liquid.
freethought
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RyuHayate said:
Such an excellent section. It's probably my favourite part of the game.
lol, nope. dead don't work unless you're either next to a corpse, you have corpse camo, or they lose their line of sight, only to find you dead.RyuHayate said:
Also, if you've played the mgs2 tanker mission, a few minor hints on exploration: take up any route you can find, whether on the ground, or up above
Philanthropist
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Teetris said:
Best I can provide:
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
I'm intrigued by your epiphany Darkpen, but I'm super slow. Pray tell, in what way did "beauty kill the beast"?Darkpen said:fail D:
But seriously, guys, what I posted earlier this morning...
I was taking a shower, and as usual, I was just doing freeflow thinking, when suddenly, I realized, "beauty killed the beast."
The whole freaking "Beauty and Beast" thing with MGS4 stems from the freaking MGS2 King Kong thing. Jesus. I mean, sure, technically they further explore what the terms imply (though honestly, the B&B corp was poorly executed as a boss group, especially with Drebin explaining everything). Not to mention, there's a distinct overuse of the beast analogy with Snake and Raiden's existence that's difficult to decipher as to exactly what they mean.
But seriously, it was that damned King Kong reference.
As a player, throughout the game, rarely do you understand Snake's mindset, especially when it clashes with the player's mindset, but all is forgiven in the last actthat light/darkness/extinguish analogy that Eva gives before her death was kind of really crappy, though.
MeshuggahMan
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Well I just finished the game up. FUCK (in a good way)
Keeping it short, or at least trying to:
Things I liked:
Things I didn't like:
Keeping it short, or at least trying to:
Things I liked:
-nay LOVED. The return to shadow moses. I really didn't see it coming, but when colonel started saying "You know where..." in the mission briefing I got as giddy as.... well I got really excited. Getting to shadow moses again was seriously incredible. Using the ending theme from MGS1 while having short little audio flashbacks was just SO AMAZING. I honestly explored every inch of every room before progressing forward.
-I also heard about the microwave scene being incredible too.. and everyone was right. It truly was awesome. I was pressing triangle for dear life trying to save snake hahah.
-I also heard about the microwave scene being incredible too.. and everyone was right. It truly was awesome. I was pressing triangle for dear life trying to save snake hahah.
Things I didn't like:
-Was Naomi played by the same voice actor just without the accent? I don't know I would have liked to have seen her the same way she was. But that's pretty nitpicky.
-Some small story elements seemed to be presented confusingly.. guess I'll just have to play through it again
-This whole game caused me to remember the tragedy that was MGS2 (yes, i hated it) so I could connect characters to how they got there :lol
-Some small story elements seemed to be presented confusingly.. guess I'll just have to play through it again
-This whole game caused me to remember the tragedy that was MGS2 (yes, i hated it) so I could connect characters to how they got there :lol
-COOLIO-
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MeshuggahMan said:Well I just finished the game up. FUCK (in a good way)
Keeping it short, or at least trying to:
Things I liked:-nay LOVED. The return to shadow moses. I really didn't see it coming, but when colonel started saying "You know where..." in the mission briefing I got as giddy as.... well I got really excited. Getting to shadow moses again was seriously incredible. Using the ending theme from MGS1 while having short little audio flashbacks was just SO AMAZING. I honestly explored every inch of every room before progressing forward.
-I also heard about the microwave scene being incredible too.. and everyone was right. It truly was awesome. I was pressing triangle for dear life trying to save snake hahah.
Things I didn't like:-Was Naomi played by the same voice actor just without the accent? I don't know I would have liked to have seen her the same way she was. But that's pretty nitpicky.
-Some small story elements seemed to be presented confusingly.. guess I'll just have to play through it again
-This whole game caused me to remember the tragedy that was MGS2 (yes, i hated it) so I could connect characters to how they got there :lol
your favorites are my favorites.
the nostalgia trip that was act 4 was amazing. I also loved the epic final fight there, even if it was easy.
and its amazing how context can make tapping triangle feel like an epic struggle.
I was just watching some of MGS3's cut-scenes, and I can't believe how KP has made such a disappointing game (MGS4) after this. To me, MGS4 has absolutely nothing on MGS3, whether we're talking about character development, storyline, twists or the way the storyline is developed.
Actual storyline aside, one of the things that made me dislike MGS4 is the "acts" structure. At first I thought that having different acts taking place in different settings was a good idea, but after playing MGS4 I realized that the storyline just isn't as well developed as in MGS1, MGS2 or MGS3, and that's because of the new structure. For example, at the end of the game the climax is just kind of there, while in previous games the games prepared you for it little by little while you were getting close to the ending.
Overall, I guess the storylines were more focused. In MGS4 you suddenly see yourself in
because you know you have to do something there, and then the game just puts
in front of your face and you just have to believe that's the climax and your final objective, even though they never mentioned that location in any of the first three acts (and just once in the fourth one). It's the exact opposite of knowing that your last objective in MGS3 is assassinating The Boss and knowing that you're getting close little by little to fullfilling your role (just to mention one example).
Whatever they do with MGS5, I really hope they go back to the classic structure of the series, even if that means having less level variety. I loved how focused the series had always been in this regard instead of putting you in different levels just for the sake of level variety like most other games do, and I hate that they ditched this structure in MGS4.
Actual storyline aside, one of the things that made me dislike MGS4 is the "acts" structure. At first I thought that having different acts taking place in different settings was a good idea, but after playing MGS4 I realized that the storyline just isn't as well developed as in MGS1, MGS2 or MGS3, and that's because of the new structure. For example, at the end of the game the climax is just kind of there, while in previous games the games prepared you for it little by little while you were getting close to the ending.
Overall, I guess the storylines were more focused. In MGS4 you suddenly see yourself in
Shadow Moses
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Whatever they do with MGS5, I really hope they go back to the classic structure of the series, even if that means having less level variety. I loved how focused the series had always been in this regard instead of putting you in different levels just for the sake of level variety like most other games do, and I hate that they ditched this structure in MGS4.
Dabookerman
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Philanthropist said:Best I can provide:
I really must start buying the Premium editions at some point x_x
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