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Metal Gear Solid 4 |OT| No Place to Hide, No Time for a Legend to FoxDie
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I enjoyed all the acts including act 3 
. I have to say it was much more fun the second time I played through the game. The first time I played through it I think my downfall was shooting the helicopter with my rpg the second I saw it (cause that's what all helicopters deserve in the game). The ensuing gun fight resulted in me having to start following a new person because I thought I was gonna shoot him in the head with my tranq gun. But uhhhh oops. Which made the act really drag. My fault though.
. I have to say it was much more fun the second time I played through the game. The first time I played through it I think my downfall was shooting the helicopter with my rpg the second I saw it (cause that's what all helicopters deserve in the game). The ensuing gun fight resulted in me having to start following a new person because I thought I was gonna shoot him in the head with my tranq gun. But uhhhh oops. Which made the act really drag. My fault though.
Flying_Phoenix
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I played and beat it. Found it good in story but VERY WEAK in gameplay. Kojima's ambition and tech really toned the core game down. It was hardly Metal Gear Solid anymore but more like sneaking and shooting. I mean yeah you can do the same things that you could do in the previous ones but it just wasn't fun and the level and game design just wasn't there. Great game but find MGS3S and MGS2 far superior.
Yeah but some of the stuff that the nanomachines did were pretty unrealistic. I mean I could understand some of the injuries Vamp had but getting shot in the head, then dieing, then coming back to life with everything fine and intact (memory, motor skills, knowledge, etc.) is definately stretching it. Especially with Raiden just suffering from sever cuts and almost dieing (for good).
I understand stuff like Screaming Mantis being able to move peoples bodys or being able to control peoples emotions. But some of the stuff Vamp did is just well impossible.
But like you said it's just a game. I mean this is a series that had people controlling bees that we're talking about. :lol
StarEye said:
Yeah but some of the stuff that the nanomachines did were pretty unrealistic. I mean I could understand some of the injuries Vamp had but getting shot in the head, then dieing, then coming back to life with everything fine and intact (memory, motor skills, knowledge, etc.) is definately stretching it. Especially with Raiden just suffering from sever cuts and almost dieing (for good).
I understand stuff like Screaming Mantis being able to move peoples bodys or being able to control peoples emotions. But some of the stuff Vamp did is just well impossible.
But like you said it's just a game. I mean this is a series that had people controlling bees that we're talking about. :lol
Bearillusion said:
The game is 10/10 on every act apart from act 3. I hated it. The graphics and execution of tracking was so poor. It was far better in the previous act when you have to track that special someone.
I just beat it for the second time and loved it,
Big Boss is such a G. His presence made the ending that more emotional
I dont think there is a more complete game then MGS4. Im so overly satisfied with the story that i dont have a single complaint.
I dont know where they can take this for MGS5 but im happy they are continuing it.
Google said:
Im not sure Kojima does if that was his interpretation of it. Considering all the locations were beautifully crafted act 3 was such a let down. BUT i dont want to focus on this as the game is one of the best games i've played this gen. Im putting it down to time and maybe the Czech Republic wasnt the best place to base their research on
TrAcEr_x90
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Dammit!! I saw this threat come back and I thought "Trophy update"!! no such luck
Shalashaska
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Man, just listening to these year end shows talk about 2008 GOTY, MGS 4 obviously did something right. You've got lots of people like me who are MGS junkies who loved the game but the interesting thing are the people who disliked the series but loved 4. The last couple of podcasts I've listened too, Giant Bomb and the Hotspot both had people who really hated the series but just loved the game.
And then just looking at fan reviews all over the place, it's consistenly being rated the highest. It led the IGN poll, it's rating on Gamefaqs is one of the highest ever, won NeoGAF GOTY. Just a truly outstanding game that appealed to a lot of different people.
And then just looking at fan reviews all over the place, it's consistenly being rated the highest. It led the IGN poll, it's rating on Gamefaqs is one of the highest ever, won NeoGAF GOTY. Just a truly outstanding game that appealed to a lot of different people.
radios shipping overview
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Totally agree with you.autobzooty said:
It's one of the cheapest cop-outs I've seen in recent memory, and it's an awful retcon. Most of the plot loop-de-loops introduced in that scene don't even make sense, and the whole purpose of it is to undermine everything the game was setting up.
The game cultivated a sense of foreboding throughout. We knew Snake was going to die. And then at the end, we saw the wedding, with life going on and Sunny finally coming out of her shell, and the promise for the future was that much more touching set against Snake's death.
I just can't take that last scene seriously. It's almost like Kojima was making fun of his own tendency to resolve impossible situations via the craziest plot gymnastics. And if not that, then it feels like he just couldn't let the game end as he originally planned, and he had to pull that last punch, no matter what it took. As far as I'm concerned, Snake died when he pulled the trigger and he saw Big Boss when he died.
The game cultivated a sense of foreboding throughout. We knew Snake was going to die. And then at the end, we saw the wedding, with life going on and Sunny finally coming out of her shell, and the promise for the future was that much more touching set against Snake's death.
I just can't take that last scene seriously. It's almost like Kojima was making fun of his own tendency to resolve impossible situations via the craziest plot gymnastics. And if not that, then it feels like he just couldn't let the game end as he originally planned, and he had to pull that last punch, no matter what it took. As far as I'm concerned, Snake died when he pulled the trigger and he saw Big Boss when he died.
BruceWayneIII
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SamuraiX- said:
Well, PGOTY (Popular Game Of The Year) is not GOTY. Resembles the rest of the world's art and entertainment.
Augemitbutter
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MNC said:
perfect match.
CosmicGroinPull
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MNC said:
Yeah, that bitch. I shake my controller in anger everytime I call her up.
RadioHeadAche
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NO ROSE! I ANGST ALONE!
Die Squirrel Die
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ARRRGHHHH, what the fuck is this shitacular end fight Kojima
??
I get to the
form and then he can grab me with no problem and any time I try do anything he just grabs me for CQC. I am so fucking angry for this turd of a boss.
prick
I get to the
MGS3
sublime085
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Oooh nice.BigBoss said:
Die Squirrel Die
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Oh thank god for that, I finally beat it
. Now for what I hope will be the mother of all endings. Maybe I should eat something first, I might need the stamina to keep up.
bastarding bastard, it's a good thing I don't live in Tokyo, or there'd be a hit and run outside Kojipro HQ
Sweet, just finished off
Edit: Finished Act 2. God damn. Any way to rewatch cutscenes in game? Like a theatre mode? Edit Edit: Also, if I want to replay a previous act, does it need to reinstall that act or something? Saw some whining about Act installing and it gave me some wondering.
Laughing Octopus. I loved it, and god damn the cutscenes remind me the graphics are great. And I just love these freaky enemies in MGS IMO It's one of the strong points of MGS.
IMO It's one of the strong points of MGS.Edit: Finished Act 2. God damn. Any way to rewatch cutscenes in game? Like a theatre mode? Edit Edit: Also, if I want to replay a previous act, does it need to reinstall that act or something? Saw some whining about Act installing and it gave me some wondering.
alterno69 said:
The bit before, where everything gets a little warm, was so underwhelming.
Perhaps because it had been spoiled for me by countless podcasts/internet discussions, but still, tapping the button through that, and playing the final segment - the final segment wins out as the greatest ending to that game.
freethought
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You can counter Ocelot's CQC grabs by simply performing your own.
I loved the fight. It's a fantastic twist on a multi-phase boss battle. I don't understand any difficulty complaints though. It's a bitch on extreme but isn't that the point.
I loved the fight. It's a fantastic twist on a multi-phase boss battle. I don't understand any difficulty complaints though. It's a bitch on extreme but isn't that the point.
Bearillusion
Banned
All the boss fights pretty much suck. Beat Crying Wolf last night on Big Boss Hard by doing nothing but
I was really looking forward to that fight (this is my second play through btw) as I was hoping for something like The End fight in MGS3.
I have a real love hate relationship with this game. Act 1 and 2 are really good. Act 3 isn't as good but still very nice. Act 3 sucks. Sucks. Act 5 doesn't really allow you to do much at all which is a disappointing way to finish. If each level improved on the last the game would have been fantastic.
laying down under the truck with my sniper rifle.
I have a real love hate relationship with this game. Act 1 and 2 are really good. Act 3 isn't as good but still very nice. Act 3 sucks. Sucks. Act 5 doesn't really allow you to do much at all which is a disappointing way to finish. If each level improved on the last the game would have been fantastic.
overthehill99
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Can you give us a summery? Who was on it? Did they mention anything new coming to the game?Darkpen said:
Trophies trophies trophies trophies trophies
SentientStone
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Bearillusion said:
Hah, that's what I did on my initial play through on hard. I was fully expecting her to ram the truck over or something, but after a while I finally realized that that would not be the case. :lol
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
This threads fuckin huge. That is all.
Oh i did start playin the again the other day, going mental banannas though, killin everyone.
Oh i did start playin the again the other day, going mental banannas though, killin everyone.
SentientStone
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Google said:
Hah, I thought the boss fights would be open ended enough to warrant multiple strategies. I'm pretty sure the team knew about that though given the attention to detail they are known for, perhaps they just let it go to satisfy those too pussy to fight the thing like a man... like me. ;p
Next time I'll do it, though that probably won't be until they release a trophy patch and/or the Substance rendition of the game.
Artofwar420
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BigBoss said:
OH hells yes, I knew they had at least one in them. I can go to sleep now.
Bearillusion
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MNC said:
:lol Sorry I meant to say that Act 4 is still very nice.
I didn't feel that it was an exploit hiding under the truck. Wolf should have alerted the troops to flush me out or I don't know maybe used the railgun on the truck.
Bearillusion
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TTP said:
I'd like to hear what it is about Act 3 that you love. I just don't see it but I really want to. I enjoyed it more the second time on Big Boss Hard but not enough for me to like the level. I just really want to see in it what those that like it do.
It was kinda creepy seeing that little robot thingy poking its head around the corner a few times. :lol
Well you know :Bearillusion said:
Act 3 final cutscene is the best cutscene i ever saw,even better than any action movie.
Patrick Zimmerman gave us the best voice acting ever witnessed in a game.
I FREAKING LOVE THAT SCENE !!!!!
Patrick Zimmerman gave us the best voice acting ever witnessed in a game.
I FREAKING LOVE THAT SCENE !!!!!
Bearillusion
Banned
Fersis said:Well you know :
Act 3 final cutscene is the best cutscene i ever saw,even better than any action movie.
Patrick Zimmerman gave us the best voice acting ever witnessed in a game.
I FREAKING LOVE THAT SCENE !!!!!
A cutscene a good level does not make.
Dubbedinenglish
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Bearillusion said:
The pacing is what I enjoyed the most from the act.
The very "noir" sort of trailing someone somewhat covertly, ducking from patrols, the ambient sound....All gave it a very WW2 spy film feel to it. Then the way way the game ramps up to the chase, and then the single most epic chase eva, followed by the OMGWTF plot scene made it rollercoaster ride moreso than the other acts.
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