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Metal Gear Solid 4 |OT| No Place to Hide, No Time for a Legend to FoxDie
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Windom Earle
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Silkysm00th said:
Ok, cool. I own portable ops but my save game got corrupted after putting a lot of hours into it
. Was fun though!Seiken said:
Dunno, I guess I was not in MGS mood when I tried to get into 3. The story seemed extremely cheesy (Campbell really pissed me off) and the camera did the rest (Need subsistance I guess). Will probably pick it up now, but it's kind of expensive at ebay.
spats said:
Thx!
Oh, come on, dude... what do you think that that ending was designed for? Sequels. Konami needs money.Tryckser said:
Snake is a terrorist, moreover Snake is going to contaminate people around him for being alive. He pussied out, that's just... it. And the sad part is how much he changed from 2 to 4. In one, he's this badass motherfucker, who destroys MGs for fun and saves the World. Full of ideals, wise words and shit. In the other, he's this old uncle, useless soldier that can't even kill himself knowing the consequences of that.
They killed the character alright, he just didn't pull the trigger.
They killed the character alright, he just didn't pull the trigger.
MurkyZebra2417
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Shikashi said:
But you got that the virus killing of everyone else is not reproducing and is no threat? He isn't a terrorist or a walking time bomb anymore? And in 4 he is just beaten, torn down by war, and old soldier in a different world, where he has no place anymore. The game does the character progression perfectly
MurkyZebra2417
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Shikashi said:
Yeah, probably the best.
At least your avatar rocks ^^
Windom Earle
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Just finished it.
Great and epic game, but it could have been longer, took me 20 hours.
Wow, epic fight with Liquid gave me goosebumps. LOL @ two hour epilogue und Big Boss's long speech.
Lion Heart
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I'll be replaying this game when I get a new t.v. Cant wait
Buckethead
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Looking at this thread again, wow BLR is a pimp.
When I grow up I hope to be just like him.
When I grow up I hope to be just like him.
Philanthropist
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schennmu said:
schennmu said:
The bolded parts are not coherent at all, as already mentioned. Do yourself a favor and play 3 when you really, really are in the mood because you missed the best one. MGS1 is a must as well, it hasn't really aged all that much, if at all.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Loaded up my first save, took me 62 hours. Man I must've taken my sweet ass time (I used to call everyone on my codec every 50-100 meters to be sure I didn't miss anything)schennmu said:
Tannhauser
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I can acknowledge the faults this game has; in regards to narrative, plot and structure/gameplay but I wouldn't be honest if I said that I was cognizant of these while playing it (I've only played it the one time). I think the biggest factor was that I was so engrossed into the characters (the protagonist really) that I sub-consciously forgave everything else. I cannot say that I liked the storyline - certainly not as much as the other games,
yet I watched every minute of the cutscenes and I could have taken a lot more (in fairness, the fact that they were fucking gorgeous helped quite a bit). There were many other things about it that I feel are inferior to the other MGS games.
It is fair to say that I enjoyed it in a different way to other videogames. It was far more personal than anything I'd previously played. In this regard the game definitely took off in Act 3 and peaked in Act 5. It was basically the finalé of a saga that we'd been playing for some 20 years, and it felt like it was actually produced in that vein. While playing it I was wondering whether other gamers/MGS fans would be feeling similarly about the experience, since it was a fairly busy time then which meant that I had not read a single review/impression of it until after I had finished it. I knew immediately that it was an experience I'd remember for a while. I still feel that the critiques of the game, though they may be valid are possibly missing the point. This game is far, far more than the sum of it's parts.
[especially the reveal of the Patriots as your ex-team]
It is fair to say that I enjoyed it in a different way to other videogames. It was far more personal than anything I'd previously played. In this regard the game definitely took off in Act 3 and peaked in Act 5. It was basically the finalé of a saga that we'd been playing for some 20 years, and it felt like it was actually produced in that vein. While playing it I was wondering whether other gamers/MGS fans would be feeling similarly about the experience, since it was a fairly busy time then which meant that I had not read a single review/impression of it until after I had finished it. I knew immediately that it was an experience I'd remember for a while. I still feel that the critiques of the game, though they may be valid are possibly missing the point. This game is far, far more than the sum of it's parts.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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jsnepo said:
It's coming in the trophy update.
After beating this game on the highest difficulty level and getting the boss extreme emblem, I actually think the first two acts were the worst part of the game. Not that those acts are bad but after several playthroughs I'm starting to like the level designs in the last three acts better. The first 2 acts is essentially an MGS3 expansion pack which is cool and all but I already played MGS3 and want something new and more diverse.
I'm not surprised that people hated act 3, I hated that level at first but on my Boss extreme run, I actually felt that level was less restrictive and moved at a really fast pace if you know what you're doing. I was prepared this time and used the Beauty and beast mask so I didn't have to crouch or crawl around like the first two acts. Now the main reason I don't like the first two acts as much is because I keep getting discovered if I don't crawl or crouch a lot.
To be honest I thought all the acts after two were more fun, less repetitive and they actually fly by really fast. Act 4 especially had the most variety in the gameplay. I was starting to get tired of sneaking past humans so it was a real pleasure blasting the scaraabs and gekkos and even better I get to control a metal gear. Crying wolf is actually a really fun boss fight, if you don't hide under the truck which is what I did on my first playthrough.
Is anyone else like me and actually acquired a stronger appreciation for the last 3 acts in subsequent playthroughs?
I'm not surprised that people hated act 3, I hated that level at first but on my Boss extreme run, I actually felt that level was less restrictive and moved at a really fast pace if you know what you're doing. I was prepared this time and used the Beauty and beast mask so I didn't have to crouch or crawl around like the first two acts. Now the main reason I don't like the first two acts as much is because I keep getting discovered if I don't crawl or crouch a lot.
To be honest I thought all the acts after two were more fun, less repetitive and they actually fly by really fast. Act 4 especially had the most variety in the gameplay. I was starting to get tired of sneaking past humans so it was a real pleasure blasting the scaraabs and gekkos and even better I get to control a metal gear. Crying wolf is actually a really fun boss fight, if you don't hide under the truck which is what I did on my first playthrough.
Is anyone else like me and actually acquired a stronger appreciation for the last 3 acts in subsequent playthroughs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp5fMVSoenU - Spoiler if you haven't finished the game.
Holy shit, I never knew of this. Is this old?
Holy shit, I never knew of this. Is this old?
VegaShinra
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Spoiler that or at least warn people it's a potential major spoiler.
Dwight Schrute
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Teetris said:
Yes, old.
BTW Between two warriors/brothers, the kiss is a symbol of respect / death.
Dwight Schrute
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Teetris said:
Right, right :lol
Think about it like Juda's kiss
Decided to replay again. My God, this game is awesome but I thought the same after I finished Act 2 the first time. In Act 3 now and this is when the game lost some of its impact for me. An almost one hour cutscene followed by a slow shadowing section kills the feeling you got after finishing Act 2. Bad pacing Kojima, bad pacing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wg2UMj6YFkJonStark said:
Looking back...the biggest flaw with MGS4, imo, is the ability to buy ammo at any time from Drebin...made it too damn easy. Having to keep an eye on your ammo always seemed like an important part of MGS to me. Until I played on Boss Extreme, I didn't even care if I got seen cause I could just blast my way through. I know some people like that though so w/e. Still one of my favorite games of all time.
sorry for the bump
so I want to replay parts of the game again , I don't want to make sandwiches every time , anyway , here is the thing .
I have many accounts on PS3 and the save work on all of them ( pre trophies good old sharable save :lol ) , so can I let the game install one Act in each account ( so if I want to go to act 3 I just switch the account and load the save without waiting for a long install ) ? or PS3 won't allow me to do this ?
so I want to replay parts of the game again , I don't want to make sandwiches every time , anyway , here is the thing .
I have many accounts on PS3 and the save work on all of them ( pre trophies good old sharable save :lol ) , so can I let the game install one Act in each account ( so if I want to go to act 3 I just switch the account and load the save without waiting for a long install ) ? or PS3 won't allow me to do this ?
Well, finally getting to play the game now, on Act 3. I am shocked at all there reactions to hearing "Wait, we aren't exact clones of Big Boss :O" I mean, I can see Snake MAYBE being surprised about it, but Otacon didn't realize it ether? Solid and Liquid are visibly different from on anther even.
I am just going to pretend they explain Solidus later in the game and don't just ignore him.
I am just going to pretend they explain Solidus later in the game and don't just ignore him.
jett said:It just means 2008 was a shitty year.
Nah I don't hate the game, just heavily disappointed with certain aspects of it.
Yeah i saw that. Personally, i thought it lacked of the epicness of the other games, it was too much focus on explanation but you guys have already talked about that billions times, it's dead meat now
brandonh83
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It's an amazing game but I wouldn't think badly of anyone who didn't like the narrative flow. Amir0x and jett have been very vocal in bashing the game's plot structure, and while jett doesn't have his Mr. Negativity badge for no reason, at least the complaints are sensible. Personally I just enjoy watching the cutscenes and I guess I just like the story and characters enough to not really care, but if you're looking for pacing and tight storytelling, look elsewhere. I don't think anyone in their right mind, not even the most hardcore of hardcore fans would ever try to defend MGS4's plot execution, but that doesn't mean you can't like it and enjoy it. Which I do, quite a bit but I don't think people are crazy for not liking it.
I also think MGS4 has by far the best stealth gameplay of the franchise. Many think that it's just a run and gun game, and it can be on easier difficulties, but if you're playing on the harder difficulties and you're going for a no-kill game, well that's when the stealth mechanics really shine. It's quite brilliant actually.
I also think MGS4 has by far the best stealth gameplay of the franchise. Many think that it's just a run and gun game, and it can be on easier difficulties, but if you're playing on the harder difficulties and you're going for a no-kill game, well that's when the stealth mechanics really shine. It's quite brilliant actually.
jayb said:keep playing the game and you'll find out about the masks.
Alright thanks, I'm loving it so far. Just one last questions, Does this game have anything like MGS2 Dogtag collecting? I loved that.
I really wish I could see MGS2 redone in the MGS4 engine. The intro to the tanker level with the bridge jumpoff would be epic.
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