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SolidusDave
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Muffdraul said:
whoops sorry, somehow I read it as the other fight, my bad.
10 times here, which is funny considering of my collection of 30+ PS3 games I've only ever finished 4 of them. MGS4 really was that special to actually make me commit to the game.TTP said:
The absolute worst is not punishing people who run and gun and instead build the game around this to encourage FPS players of getting the game. Should've learned from MGS3 imo. Still you can't say the old school stealth approach has suffered from this, they did an amazing job implementing both.
Killing_Joke
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I've been waiting to play again to wait for a Trophy patch..I guess i should give up hope huh? =/
MGS4 suffers from the whole "let's make our game as overly hand-holding as possible so that EVERYONE can beat the game" fad that the industry as a whole had an epiphany of a while ago, which completely wrecked any sense of importance on balance and pacing.
More importantly, I barely, if ever, touched MGO. I played the shit out of it during the beta, but fuck if the Konami ID shit needed to be yanked out.
The problem with MGS4 is the fucking install times. If I didn't need to install, I would have probably gone back to MGS4 several times more than the 8 playthroughs that I've had with the game, and that's not including the few times I've screwed around without saving, either.TTP said:
More importantly, I barely, if ever, touched MGO. I played the shit out of it during the beta, but fuck if the Konami ID shit needed to be yanked out.
Dave1988 said:
Compared to MGS2, that's nothing. I've replayed MGS2 over 1000 times... and I really wish I could be kidding about that. I usually replay it once a week since release though I went insane in the first two years with replays... man that was such an amazing game. Kind of makes you think what if? (insert MGS3/PO/4 hate here).
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Liquidus said:
Ever made a speed run? I bet you could make a single segment with ease.
Apologizes for bumping this thread, but I picked up about a week ago. I am a new PS3 owner and this was the 3rd game for the system I've played.
I have to admit I have some big issues with the game, really a lot of my annoyances steaming from story elements and just the amount of fan service that was included. (And I mean that not in a good way).
Still I had a lot of fun in the early chapters and despite some glaring issues I do plan on going back to the game and replaying it just to mess around and do some of the cool stuff I've read through this thread.
On a side note any Gaffers still play MGO? I started playing this afternoon for the first time. Initially I couldn't find any games in automaking lobby as my level was zero (Waited 3 times for over 10 minutes before being kicked). I eventually joined some games in progress and even though some people were 5-6 levels above me I often found myself in the middle of the table by end of the games and had a huge amount of fun.
If anyone is up for a game please let me know and add me on PSN.
I really want to play the game again before sharing my full thoughts on single player.
I have to admit I have some big issues with the game, really a lot of my annoyances steaming from story elements and just the amount of fan service that was included. (And I mean that not in a good way).
Still I had a lot of fun in the early chapters and despite some glaring issues I do plan on going back to the game and replaying it just to mess around and do some of the cool stuff I've read through this thread.
On a side note any Gaffers still play MGO? I started playing this afternoon for the first time. Initially I couldn't find any games in automaking lobby as my level was zero (Waited 3 times for over 10 minutes before being kicked). I eventually joined some games in progress and even though some people were 5-6 levels above me I often found myself in the middle of the table by end of the games and had a huge amount of fun.
If anyone is up for a game please let me know and add me on PSN.
I really want to play the game again before sharing my full thoughts on single player.
I really need to replay this game. I played Act 1 again, but then stopped. I love the MGS games to death, but to me it's more about the experience the first time you play it than the actual playing. And I find it weird that people single out MGS4 for making stealth less important when it's actually MGS3 that first ditched the puzzle like layout and gameplay of the series.
Damn, always so harsh buI I love it . I thought the ending was okay but like with most of Kojimas cutscenes, it was way too long. There is too much that is overexplained and he always has about 6 or 7 too many twists, it makes me wonder why he spends so much time telling a story when a twist says it's all bullshit in the end. But I still believe Guns is a great game, it's a shame that I probably won't be able to play his next.Solo said:
I just finished the game and I personally think it is of the best gaming experiences out there. I think it did an amazing job wrapping up the plot, perfecting the MGS gameplay experience, and overall improving on the presentation package MGS has been known for. Some of the presentation, especially, is just LEAGUES beyond anything else out there.
I can't believe it took me this long to finally play it (lack of funds for a PS3 was the biggest factor). Games like MGS4 will help make headway in finally making gaming appreciated as a legitimate artform, imo.
And if anyone wants to play some MGO, let me know.
I can't believe it took me this long to finally play it (lack of funds for a PS3 was the biggest factor). Games like MGS4 will help make headway in finally making gaming appreciated as a legitimate artform, imo.
And if anyone wants to play some MGO, let me know.
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It's the crowd psychology, prominently evident in GAF. Many will say that MGS4 is good and magically it becomes GOTY 2008 (having being released 6 months before so no excsuses for initially misguided hype). Now, after so many hate threads it has become the worst MGS to date, it has a horrible plot, horrible gameplay, so horrible that we'd be better off if it had never been released. :lolSnuggler said:
Snuggler said:Damn, so much hate considering it was GAF goty last year, I wonder what happened to all the people that voted for it. Off topic, but what's the deal with these fuckin ads, I don't have any herpes but they're always here at night.
It seems this game gets hated on because whenever this thread gets bump, the people who click on it are the ones who hated it to begin with. Otherwise, it's love by the majority.
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Steiner_Zi said:
So a lot of people thought it was GOTY so it became GOTY? Yeah, some really strange logic there...
Just finished the game. Basically all the gameplay parts and fan service were fantastic but some of these cutscenes are terrible.
You get occasional good ones like Raiden killing the Geckos and Snake vs Liquid Ocelot but then some others either make me fall asleep at how long and boring they are or make me groan at how cheesy and lame they are.
It's a real shame because there are so many awesone moments in the game but the lows bring it all down.
MGS 1 and 3 still remain the top games in the series. This really is the worst MGS and I'm amazed it won GAF's GOTY >_<
You get occasional good ones like Raiden killing the Geckos and Snake vs Liquid Ocelot but then some others either make me fall asleep at how long and boring they are or make me groan at how cheesy and lame they are.
It's a real shame because there are so many awesone moments in the game but the lows bring it all down.
MGS 1 and 3 still remain the top games in the series. This really is the worst MGS and I'm amazed it won GAF's GOTY >_<
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Fady K said:
Same here. I was actually tearing up a bit during the end scene. It was just so beautiful
shut up, I get emotional sometimes
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Just got a ps3 bundle on black friday, so MGS4 is the third game I'm playing. I guess, I should mention I am not the biggest MGS fan. Played about an hour of the original and another 3 of the second, skipped 3 altogether. Just started this one today and did not put it down until I finished the first act. I know it's probably been mentioned a million times, but I'm really enjoying it so far, so what the hell?
I remember the big comparison between MGS2 and Splinter Cell for the best stealth game out there... those times are long gone, but it's been replaced by a good variety and excellent pacing. We have some very obvious stealthy scenarios and close quarter shootouts connected via a sort of "find the easiest path by these bad guys"bits. All enjoyable and very well paced. Couple that with a great sense of humor and it makes for a very enjoyable, stress free experience, the long cutscenes just add to that rhythm. The main thing I have to point out though is the absolute insane attention to detail.
The detail put into every object and the quality of animation is nothing short of jaw dropping. Just the arbitrary scene where Snake checks out the M4 Drebin throws his way, the amount of effort and the craftsmanship that had to go into one little part of a long cutscene in a much longer game, insane. The way he inspects the rifle is more impressive than whole game's worth of animation work in some supposedly triple A games. Then, there's the scene where jonny(is that raiden? it has to be) shits his pants as a shootout unfolds. Anyway, I have to play some more tomorrow.
I remember the big comparison between MGS2 and Splinter Cell for the best stealth game out there... those times are long gone, but it's been replaced by a good variety and excellent pacing. We have some very obvious stealthy scenarios and close quarter shootouts connected via a sort of "find the easiest path by these bad guys"bits. All enjoyable and very well paced. Couple that with a great sense of humor and it makes for a very enjoyable, stress free experience, the long cutscenes just add to that rhythm. The main thing I have to point out though is the absolute insane attention to detail.
The detail put into every object and the quality of animation is nothing short of jaw dropping. Just the arbitrary scene where Snake checks out the M4 Drebin throws his way, the amount of effort and the craftsmanship that had to go into one little part of a long cutscene in a much longer game, insane. The way he inspects the rifle is more impressive than whole game's worth of animation work in some supposedly triple A games. Then, there's the scene where jonny(is that raiden? it has to be) shits his pants as a shootout unfolds. Anyway, I have to play some more tomorrow.
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Do yourself a favor and go back and play 3 some time.
The list of reasons to replay this are growing. A question about the Octopus fight:
The second part of the "battle", I'm guessing you could spare the girls life or just avoid shooting her? Does a different cutscene play, or are you just force to execute her anyway? I'm too much of a pussy so I didn't let her get close.
Do you mean whenTTG said:
you're both in the white room? You have a fair number of options really. Putting comedy and perveted options aside you can either end the battle by stunning, killing, or letting the timer run out. The last two options kill her and leave you with nothing as far as I remember, but stunning her unlocks {ACT3 spoiler in spoiler} her face as face camo. Doesn't affect the game outside of that, except for feeling good about not killing pretty people.
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TTP said:
:lol I thought this was trophy news also.
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