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Gnome Scat

Member
Well the credits are rolling for me now after finishing Mission
46 and wow what a let down. You make me play through that entire cinematic level again, reveal the obvious twist (it was clear since the beginning completely predictable), leave as many loose ends as possible, no Paz, no Zero(despite seeing him in the credits), and worst of all it feels like some fucking MGS3 fan who had such massive a hard on for Big Boss that he wanted to figure out how to write himself into the canon, but not only did he not stop there, he continued to write a botched story that he never tied up because his parents called him down for dinner or some shit. This story felt mostly amateur, despite a few good sequences like mission 43. I get what Kojima was trying to do, but come on man, that's just bad. Hopefully there's more.

Also, if you looked at your reflection in the ACC, it was your avatar, which was a cool I guess. Also, Eli not being related to him was another giveaway.

Edit:
After credits talking was alright I guess. Oh and nevermind about Zero, he's in some tapes.
 
SzczwanyGapa

SzczwanyGapa

Member
Could you please put those talks about Codetalker
especially parasites
in spoilers?

Did I just had a WOHOOAAA moment?
After saving those child soldiers.
Or there's something later?
 
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Screaming Meat

Unconfirmed Member
Finished Chapter 1.

Metal Gear Snuffleupagus fight probably ranks joint first with Rex as my favourite Metal Gear fight. Really felt like I was fighting a proper Kaiju, especially when it drops that smoke/Archea bomb thingy. Having it loom out of the red fog caught me by surprise a few times. I like the fact that Snuffleupagus is far more deadly in its more manoeuvrable Rex/Railgun form, kinda makes sense why they didn't bother with an upright mode for Rex later down the line.

Really like the changes to MB's atmosphere post-Chapter 1 too. Nice little 1984/post-9 11 commentary in that opening cutscene. Interested to see how it pans out.
 
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MajorTom

Member
So yesterday I played the PC version on max settings at my mates house. I was actually unimpressed. To me it didn't really look any better than the ps4 version.
Maybe 4K would've made more of a difference
 
Heavy's Sandvich

Heavy's Sandvich

Member
MajorTom said:
So yesterday I played the PC version on max settings at my mates house. I was actually unimpressed. To me it didn't really look any better than the ps4 version.
Maybe 4K would've made more of a difference
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Fair play.

Even on medium settings, the image quality on pc surpasses the ps4 for me.

I've spent 100 hours on ps4 now. Can play for another 100 easily.
 
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wilsonda

Member
Shy said:
Brothers, quick question. Why am i so shit at FOB'ing. ?

It's not to get any better, sorry.
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Haha I thought I would be a bad ass infiltrator but not so much. I've limited myself to raiding level 15 and below... it's quite sad to loss to a security team rather than a human opponent.
 
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brau

Member
MajorTom said:
So yesterday I played the PC version on max settings at my mates house. I was actually unimpressed. To me it didn't really look any better than the ps4 version.
Maybe 4K would've made more of a difference
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Difference is pretty huge. Specially on the shadows, reflections, pop in distance, distance view, AO with HBAO+ and the numbers of lights and distance of them.

Its quite significant. Dunno what you are talking about.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/check-out-these-metal-gear-solid-5-graphics-compar/1100-6429575/
 
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Rajang

Member
Screaming Meat said:
Finished Chapter 1.

Metal Gear Snuffleupagus fight probably ranks joint first with Rex as my favourite Metal Gear fight. Really felt like I was fighting a proper Kaiju, especially when it drops that smoke/Archea bomb thingy. Having it loom out of the red fog caught me by surprise a few times. I like the fact that Snuffleupagus is far more deadly in its more manoeuvrable Rex/Railgun form, kinda makes sense why they didn't bother with an upright mode for Rex later down the line.

Really like the changes to MB's atmosphere post-Chapter 1 too. Nice little 1984/post-9 11 commentary in that opening cutscene. Interested to see how it pans out.
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Enjoy Chapter 2.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °)
 
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Screaming Meat

Unconfirmed Member
Rajang said:
Enjoy Chapter 2.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °)
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Cross posting but relevant:

This fucks me off no end.

All it does is taint someone's opinion before they get to form it themselves. It's one thing to broadly share disappointment, quite another to directly scupper one's excitement with crypto-smug comments like that. No one will ever thank them for it, so I'm not sure what the benefit is except the potential chance to go "I TOLD YOU SO!!!11!1!!" later down the road, which is twatish to the nth degree.
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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °)
 
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Screaming Meat

Unconfirmed Member
brau said:
Yes!

Been reading Ubik.

Its phenomenal. Never read anything like it, and its mind blowing this was released when it did. I am enjoying it. Half way through it.
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Brilliant! So glad you like it! Ubik is one of my favourite books. I think you'll enjoy his other stuff of which there is an absolute shit ton.
 
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brau

Member
Screaming Meat said:
Brilliant! So glad you like it! Ubik is one of my favourite books. I think you'll enjoy his other stuff of which there is an absolute shit ton.
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Yes! i am so happy it came up. Honestly. Soma is good... but finding this book because of Soma is awesome. Have not had a book to enjoy in quite a while too.

The book is just.. not hand holding in any way... things just happened and you gotta keep up with it. Very good stuff. I wish Kojima wrote his games with this much sense, passion and common sense. Very creative too.

I am excited to dive into some of his short stories too.
 
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Screaming Meat

Unconfirmed Member
brau said:
Yes! i am so happy it came up. Honestly. Soma is good... but finding this book because of Soma is awesome. Have not had a book to enjoy in quite a while too.

The book is just.. not hand holding in any way... things just happened and you gotta keep up with it. Very good stuff. I wish Kojima wrote his games with this much sense, passion and common sense. Very creative too.

I am excited to dive into some of his short stories too.
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That's great! Love it when people find the "good shit" that resonates with them. I expect to see some mind-bending art off the back of this. :)

The short stories are incredible: Electric Ant, We'll Remember it for you Wholesale, Imposter, Second Variety... so many good ones, all perfectly formed.

Shy said:
You referring to anyone in particular. ?
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In this instance, I'm clearly referring to Rajang's comment (even though I still love him), but it can apply to anyone who does that shit.
 
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Rajang

Member
brau said:
I yet to hear your impressions dude. I saw you plat the game already.
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Great game, bad MGS game.

Gameplay wise it's the best in the series. Story wise, the weakest.

I can't really think of a story moment that really impressed me. There was just so little development overal. There were parts that were well done obviously, like the opening (visually it is absolutely incredible) and the first mission was also very good.

One of the parts of the story that I also liked was optional:
Paz in the medical unit. I thought that the theme of the game, the role that the player and Phantom Boss play all came together in a great way. Medic/Phantom Boss feeling guilty for not having saved her during GZ. And Paz being the phantom pain for the player.

I also liked what they did with Huey.
Other characters lost arms and legs, but Huey didn't lose anything and even gained the ability to walk. That was very telling. I just loved his development in this game.

The tapes were such a dissapointment in this game. And I was really looking forward to them, because I loved how they fleshed out the backstory and characters in Peace Walker. The only tape I really liked was the final
mammal pod recording. It has probably the best VA performance in the game.

I had no issues with the twist itself, but what I did have issues with was the following: The mission/twist just randomly appears during Chapter 2. There was absolutely no build up to it. MGS2 did it far faaar better. Also what I didn't like was what the twist meant for the story line of the saga. It creates so many inaccuracies and contradicts alot of the previous games.

Peace Walker also did a much better job with Mother Base, you really felt you were part of MSF. It's great that you can visit Mother Base in TPP, but it just felt so empty. It has 0 charm and the only thing that's going on is gossip between soldiers and moving cranes in the background. In Peace Walker there were so many tapes about every day life at Mother Base, you could almost smell the gallo pinto. And other tapes where they go fishing, play soccer, where soldiers are having parties and get drunk. I felt alot more like a real place.
 
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brau

Member
Screaming Meat said:
That's great! Love it when people find the "good shit" that resonates with them. I expect to see some mind-bending art off the back of this. :)

The short stories are incredible: Electric Ant, We'll Remember it for you Wholesale, Imposter, Second Variety... so many good ones, all perfectly formed.
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Excited to read more from this author. Finally found a good sci fi book to read. :)

Rajang said:
Great game, bad MGS game.

Gameplay wise it's the best in the series. Story wise, the weakest.
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You agree with Yongs.. or any other reviewer saying this is GotY? Gameplay make up for the shortcomings and lack of content?

Arjac said:
Seems relevant
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Internet is a magical and enigmatic place.
 
GHound

GHound

Member
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Are you ashamed of your words and deeds yet?
 
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Error1355

Member
There could literally be no story in this game at all and it'd still be my game of the year.

I've never had so much fun playing a stealth game as a stealth game as I have this one. Ever.
 
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Death Metalist

Member
Error1355 said:
There could literally be no story in this game at all and it'd still be my game of the year.

I've never had so much fun playing a stealth game as a stealth game as I have this one. Ever.
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Pretty much, after you return to other games it becomes even more apparent just how much hand holding and restricting there is in most games out there.

Razgriz-Specter said:
I'd go so far as to say the gameplay might be my alltime favorite.
However bad Metal Gear game and would say even say most CODs have a better campaign story than that.
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I know opinions and all but how? I mean sure the execution was not all there but the theme of language was a pretty cool never before done thing in a game and it's way more interesting then anything COD offers.
 
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RevolverRoden

Member
Death Metalist said:
I know opinions and all but how? I mean sure the execution was not all there but the theme of language was a pretty cool never before done thing in a game and it's way more interesting then anything COD offers.
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Give it a year. Everyone will calm down and stop with the hyperbole by then.

On another note, love deterrence instrumental is so good. Chills every time I hear it
 
Sub_Level

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
"I wonder if you would have preferred a fantasy setting."

When AI Rose says that to Raiden, in my head canon that is a Final Fantasy reference.
 
d00d3n

d00d3n

Member
Any downside to silently killing enemy soldiers that you don't want to fulton while exploring open world (not during missions)? I mean except any moral issues you would have with this.
 
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Death Metalist

Member
RevolverRoden said:
Give it a year. Everyone will calm down and stop with the hyperbole by then.

On another note, love deterrence instrumental is so good. Chills every time I hear it
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That's my go to song when I'm playing. Sniping dudes from far away while the sun is setting and listening to that track is just damn good.
 
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Razgriz-Specter

Member
Death Metalist said:
Pretty much, after you return to other games it becomes even more apparent just how much hand holding and restricting there is in most games out there.



I know opinions and all but how? I mean sure the execution was not all there but the theme of language was a pretty cool never before done thing in a game and it's way more interesting then anything COD offers.
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That language stuff besides tapes is like way less than half of the game.
Other plot threads/points that get no pay off including the main point of the game don't just sit their but actively ruin what actually is there.

Skullface even seems like a joke in comparison to crap like Shepherd and Makarov.

Makes me appreciate 4 much more than I previously did so I will give it that.
 
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RevolverRoden

Member
So... I just beat mission 46 (I still haven't gotten 45 though. Is that supposed to happen?)
My thoughts:
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK? WAT. All this time? Is this why people hate this game? Or is there more in a "true ending" or mission 45?
 
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