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Metal Gear Solid HD Collection |OT| The Naked, the Solid and the Lightning
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Synless
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It's not true.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Actually I would say I was drawn to the face on a account that I frogot what the rest of the cover was and only remembered that part. Hence I jumped to reply that the cover was not CG even though part of it was.
Okay, a little farther in this time. I just got passed the scene in MGS2 where
I'm getting more used to the game's mechanics and controls on the 360, and I'm definitely enjoying it more than I was when I started. Storyline wise there are some serious moments that I get into (The fight with Fatman was the first moment/dialogue I really enjoyed), and I even like the silly stuff. It's not that I hate non-serious storylines, it's just that I didn't expect it from the series, but it's cool, I like it now. I can't fault the game for thinking outside of the box when it comes to the story.
the president reveals information about the Patriots and gets killed by Ocelot.
I'm getting more used to the game's mechanics and controls on the 360, and I'm definitely enjoying it more than I was when I started. Storyline wise there are some serious moments that I get into (The fight with Fatman was the first moment/dialogue I really enjoyed), and I even like the silly stuff. It's not that I hate non-serious storylines, it's just that I didn't expect it from the series, but it's cool, I like it now. I can't fault the game for thinking outside of the box when it comes to the story.
After you finish the game, read Jeremy Parish's 1up writeup about just how outside the box MGS2's story is.
MiniBossBattle
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I can trade with you if you want.
immortal-joe
Member
Try to get into the story as much as you can - it's over written and goes in circles - but thematically, it will pay off in the end. Don't carry the initial impression of the game right after you beat it and place them here. I say that because I can virtually guarantee you that your impressions will evolve (be it for the better or worse) over time.
Let it digest, read the analysis linked from this thread, and you'll really appreciate just how far down the rabbit role Kojima went with this game.
It's not an issue. I can do Ex Op 26 if Medic isn't there, but I need to unlock Ex Op 26 which is a PITA.
I know you said not to, but I can't help it. I finished about 20 minutes ago. I liked it a lot.
Keeping my interpretation/impression short: My brain is full of fuck.
Then how come some people didn't have the effects? Is it due to the different PS3 versions?
I'm nearing the end of MGS3, and I'm getting close to starting up Peace Walker. This is pretty much the only MG game I haven't gone through yet, and I have been mostly on media blackout in terms of its story (mostly).
When considering this is a Post-MGS4 Kojima title... exactly how much should I be expecting on the crazy-scale?
When considering this is a Post-MGS4 Kojima title... exactly how much should I be expecting on the crazy-scale?
Rahxephon91
Banned
PW plot only has one crazy thing that I can remember and even then it's not that crazy, just further shits on a character and plot from three. The rest of the stuff is just more silly then crazy. Nothing on the levels of 4. Its a bit more grounded, more inline with three.
It's also crap, but I wont stop you from playing it. Many people seem to like it for reasons that confound me. Haven't even touched PW HD. Meanwhile I've played through 2 and 3 two times each.
It's also crap, but I wont stop you from playing it. Many people seem to like it for reasons that confound me. Haven't even touched PW HD. Meanwhile I've played through 2 and 3 two times each.
Like Rah said: It's not that crazy. But it does shit on MGS3, like MGS4 did. So story-wise it's pretty shitty. Gameplay-wise, meanwhile it's fucking awesome and Rah just lives up to his tag.
Also get someone to boost the 20K comrad with you with the end-game perfect stealth missions. Me and LiquidSolid are 10K just farming our levels for me to get the Bandana and him tagging along for the ride. Much better to do than the shitty "Versus Ops"/MGO-on-a-portable-ported-to-console shit that apparently people say is faster. Fuck that, for 200 comrad less and a hell of a lot less time, you can get through a perfect stealth mission in nearly 3 minutes in comparison to vs ops 7-30 mins. Not worth the extra 200 comrad with that long time to get it.
Rahxephon91
Banned
LoL there's nothing good about the gameplay of PW. Even on PSP the game was pathetically easy requiring no thought of how I would play the game. You can really just run up to every guard and cqc them. Hardly any sneaking required. I can't think of any interesting sneaking senerios in this game. What good gameplay! I can only imagine that now that you can actually shoot without fighting the controls the game is beyond a cakewalk and requires no thought. You can probably just sit and take out every guard from the entry point of area.
And then those excellent boss battles that are terribly unbalanced for single player. It was so fun taking them on with my unique strategy of shoot with rocket launcher, hide, throw supply thing, and repeat. What fun fighting bosses that lack any of the personality of past MG games. No, damage sponges are so mich better! And yeah if I want to capture them it of course becomes even more drawn out and boring.
But of course if I want the better gear to make these boss battles actually balanced I have to partake and doing extra missions. Missions that are incredibly boring already. Yes, that's what MG needed, some mission grinding. Plus I just hate this mission structure and like the level strucutre of 1,2, and 3, but I can't really knock that against a portable game.
Of course I could go into co-op. but I hate co-op and I shouldn't have to use. Let alone that I'm in America here and no one has this game on their PSP.
I'm sorry I play MG for fun single player experiences. Not Monster Hunter cash ins. It's just not a good game.
And then those excellent boss battles that are terribly unbalanced for single player. It was so fun taking them on with my unique strategy of shoot with rocket launcher, hide, throw supply thing, and repeat. What fun fighting bosses that lack any of the personality of past MG games. No, damage sponges are so mich better! And yeah if I want to capture them it of course becomes even more drawn out and boring.
But of course if I want the better gear to make these boss battles actually balanced I have to partake and doing extra missions. Missions that are incredibly boring already. Yes, that's what MG needed, some mission grinding. Plus I just hate this mission structure and like the level strucutre of 1,2, and 3, but I can't really knock that against a portable game.
Of course I could go into co-op. but I hate co-op and I shouldn't have to use. Let alone that I'm in America here and no one has this game on their PSP.
I'm sorry I play MG for fun single player experiences. Not Monster Hunter cash ins. It's just not a good game.
Callo Merlose
Banned
You might get trolled for this opinion, but yeah. Ditto pretty much everything. All this game did was rehash what was perfect in MGS3 and it retroactively hurt Snake Eater. I love its soundtrack, character design, and that's it. It's like being in love with someone that's slowly losing their appeal. :|
FUCKING TRADE NETCODE. Y U NO CONNECT US!?
It'll connect (at times) with randoms, but for the most part it's CONNECTION ERROR. CONNECTION ERROR. CONNECTION ERROR. Playing co-op is fine, WTF Konami/Blupoint/Kojima!?
It'll connect (at times) with randoms, but for the most part it's CONNECTION ERROR. CONNECTION ERROR. CONNECTION ERROR. Playing co-op is fine, WTF Konami/Blupoint/Kojima!?
A Twisty Fluken
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So I finished Snake Eater on PS3, and I have to say, the port was really quite shitty, particularly in the cutscenes. Loved the juicy framerate hit every time Volgin used his lightning.
So my question are the MGS2 and Peace Walker ports just as bad/worse than this one? That's all.
So my question are the MGS2 and Peace Walker ports just as bad/worse than this one? That's all.
Oh, please.
Go play 3 on the PS2 and come back and say it's a shitty port. I fucking dare ya.
drhankmccoyphd
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I'm replaying the entire MGS series right now and I just finished up MGS3. I'm ready to dive into Peace Walker, which I've never really played apart from the opening mission. Is there anything I should know going in? I have to say, starting from the very first MG and plowing my way through has given me a new love for the series even given the batshit craziness. Nay, because of the batshit craziness. I want to enjoy Peace Walker, but I don't want it to taint my positive feelings toward everything else. Thoughts?
Rahxephon91
Banned
I'll take a small framerate drop from something that does not acactually effect the game then the framerate drops of the original. You are crazy. The game looks great and during actual gameplay runs great. There is nothing terrible about the MGS3 HD port. Omg! Some slowdown!
And superior Xbox version ftw.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Those aren't really a problem actually and no Volgin induced slowdown.
I was actually quite impressed with the MGS3 port overall. I look specifically to the fight against The Fury. On the PS2 version, the frame rate drops pretty noticeably when the fire starts filling up the room. If you play the PS2 version on your 80GB PS3, The Fury is literally unplayable due to the framerate dropping to what seems like fewer than 10 fps. The framerate during The Fury holds up really well on the MGS3 HD version though and if there was a drop it couldn't have been more than 5 fps.
Only bad thing I have to say about MGS3 HD is the framerate wasn't locked into 60fps and occasionally you will see some slowdowns. But those minor slowdowns are pretty negligible IMO since I can't seem to think about any one area of the game where the framerate goes down noticeably for an extended period of time.
Only bad thing I have to say about MGS3 HD is the framerate wasn't locked into 60fps and occasionally you will see some slowdowns. But those minor slowdowns are pretty negligible IMO since I can't seem to think about any one area of the game where the framerate goes down noticeably for an extended period of time.
I'm more annoyed by the load times for codec conversations. That was unexpected and weird.
Dabookerman
Member
Finally got the PS3 Japanese premium edition. It is awesome!
Best gaming art book ever.
Best gaming art book ever.
Are they mostly just the same art used in the old art books or is there new art in there as well?
I fizzled out going for the 'true ending' as grinding the extra ops for Zeke parts is a total slog in the worst way. I've got seemingly hundreds of parts for Zeke except the vital head parts which never fucking drop, no matter how consistent I am with a strategy for stealing them. It's a backhanded brickwall moment that has made the entire game progression go absolutely limp.
I most enjoyed leveling my crew for new equipment but it really was the only real hook the game offered. The core gameplay was lacking as were the scenarios. A bit absurd really looking back, considering how addicting crew upgrading can be, but it does get really shallow and the game can't compensate well enough by putting absurd limits on the hidden S-rank crew members and again, Zeke drops, you do require.
Still, with a good set of players, the co-op can be a good deal of fun on the boss encounters. Repetitive though, and there is no real incentive for playing that way in the normal campaign missions. With a bad team that just focuses on destruction without thinking of S-ranking, that same joyful experience is just garbage.
So yea, pretty mixed on PW. Not as absolutely heart-wrenching a disappointment as MGS4 though.
I think you might be mistaken. You didn't need to have all of the Zeke parts and IRC the parts you did need were the very common ones.
I think the main issue with unlocking that stuff was having your base at a sufficient size (through recruits).
Dabookerman
Member
MGS1+2 artwork = the same stuff, but MGS3 art is new as far as I'm aware.
There never was an MGS3 artbook.
AgentOtaku
Member
Can't believe I didn't realize till last night that THERE IS NOT a trophy for 0 alarms in Snake Eater. I don't know, I wasn't looking forward to ever doing that again after I knocked it out on PS2. Just lots of saving and reloading. Not really fun, just fucking tedious.
It is true, and people have noted that it changes on different playthroughs, so no one's sure what causes it.
Also, the 360 version runs better? Whoa. Well you can't do the knife stab in that version, can you? o_o
Hm... I can't really put my finger on how I feel about Peace Walker right now.
The story is pretty standard so far; it doesn't show its craziness right out the gate like MGS2 and 4 did. Character and voice wise, eh. But I can definitely tell that David Hayter is at the absolute limit in stretching the "Snake" voice, however. Sometimes it sounds even more ridiculously strained than his MGS4 performance. With that said, having Spanish characters throw in Spanish terms at random does not make for effective, authentic dialogue, Kojima.
Gameplay-wise, I don't know. While there is some appeal in building up a kind of an army, the levels haven't really been that great. Combine that with the fact that the enemies are usually really terrible or Snake's CQC is just really overpowered. And I haven't been able to find people online for coop either.
The story is pretty standard so far; it doesn't show its craziness right out the gate like MGS2 and 4 did. Character and voice wise, eh. But I can definitely tell that David Hayter is at the absolute limit in stretching the "Snake" voice, however. Sometimes it sounds even more ridiculously strained than his MGS4 performance. With that said, having Spanish characters throw in Spanish terms at random does not make for effective, authentic dialogue, Kojima.
Gameplay-wise, I don't know. While there is some appeal in building up a kind of an army, the levels haven't really been that great. Combine that with the fact that the enemies are usually really terrible or Snake's CQC is just really overpowered. And I haven't been able to find people online for coop either.
Rahxephon91
Banned
brianmcdoogle
Member
Does anyone know of any place that still sells the PS3 Limtied Edition new? I.E., not Amazon used or eBay?
Rahxephon91
Banned
Well that just means we have a lot of room on the correct boat.
I don't do smileys, so yeah I'm joking......somewhat
Rahxephon91
Banned
It dosent really drop in the same places the PS3 version does.
I love mgs3 so I don't mind playing it again, it'll be interesting to see where both games struggle.
xKilltheMx
Member
Does anybody play MGS PW online?
Inferno313
Banned
Are you on 360 or PS3?
I'm playing on 360 and I'm nearing the end of MGS3, and then I'll be moving onto PW. If you want to add me, we can do PW stuff once I beat MGS3 in the next couple days.
GT: BlastotheHanar
This goes for anyone else who wants to play PW online.