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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain |OT| The Man Who Sold The World

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Lingitiz

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The IGN review sort of reflected that, whereas none of the other big ones did. Something about certain threads having rushed resolutions, or even none at all. Makes me dread the end. D:

Not just that but (mission design spoiler)
the back half of the game is just repeating stuff you've already done on harder difficulties to unlock the rest of the endings.
 
I think perception of this game is gonna go south once people get to the back half. It's embarrassing how unfinished this game seems.

Honestly after reading some of the stuff I just read, which was spoiler free, I'm not even sure I want to finish the game anymore. Also I'm at the second half and it's....strange.

You can instantly spot the moment that Konami's foot came down. It's sad to think they've done so much damage. I've never wanted a company to sink so hard before.
 

ZeroX03

Banned
Still can't get the side ops to unlock weapon customization. Frustrating.

Episode 16
I can't beat these fucking skulls it's ridiculous. I shoot once and it's impossible to get away.

Don't try and beat them with you own guns. Wait until they get to the village and stop. Jump on the anti-air gun and you'll shred them to pieces.
 

Anth0ny

Member
You can definitely dodge them. Or shoot them before they throw them.

I guess, but I'm like focusing on one or two of them and the third is off camera and just fucks up my shit :(

Rocket launcher twice to destroy their armor bar, machine gun close rang.
When they sword attack CQC them when the prompt pops for high damage.

I'll try that.

I'm currently
CQCing them and then using my most powerful shotgun. it's doing decent damage but I still keep getting fucked up. I'll try the rocket launcher/machine gun strat, thanks!
 
The biggest issue with limiting your guns on a mission is when you play it the first time through you have no idea what you're gonna need. How many times did people take their tranq pistol and a silence sniper only to find you need the rocket and grenade launchers.
 
I LMAO'd at the explanation for Quiet's lack of clothes

Its like they put her in the game then worked backwards for some wacky ass justification. Definitely ashamed now.

Game definitely gets better when you reach Africa, but its gonna make some interesting post-game conversation all its various elements in a week or so.

Not just that but (mission design spoiler)
the back half of the game is just repeating stuff you've already done on harder difficulties to unlock the rest of the endings.

Like this shit for example.

LOL
 

Lingitiz

Member
Honestly after reading some of the stuff I just read, which was spoiler free, I'm not even sure I want to finish the game anymore. Also I'm at the second half and it's....strange.

You can instantly spot the moment that Konami's foot came down. It's sad to think they've done so much damage. I've never wanted a company to sink so hard before.

Eh there's blame on both sides. One for Konami being big bad publisher and secondly for Kojima taking way 5 years on the game and likely an insane amount of money.

But yeah it's pretty damn sad how this game has turned out. It's still good don't get me wrong. The core is some of the best stealth I have played and it all controls so well. The Fox Engine is incredible and an amazing piece of tech. But the rest of this game lets everything down so badly.

It should be better, and that's the saddest part. Honestly the feeling I get from this game kind of reminds me of Destiny. It's a lot of disconnected missions and you sit there waiting for the story to come together, but it just never does. Meanwhile the core mechanics are fucking great even though the mission scenarios are repetitive.
 

Grief.exe

Member
The biggest issue with limiting your guns on a mission is when you play it the first time through you have no idea what you're gonna need. How many times did people take their tranq pistol and a silence sniper only to find you need the rocket and grenade launchers.

You can drop whatever you need at anytime.
 
The biggest issue with limiting your guns on a mission is when you play it the first time through you have no idea what you're gonna need. How many times did people take their tranq pistol and a silence sniper only to find you need the rocket and grenade launchers.

Zero times.

10 missions in and so far any mission that "requires" explosives tells you so in yellow font on the mission description page. And if you still don't bring any, it's a complete non issue because you can have an explosive air dropped to you in a matter of seconds.
 
It should be better, and that's the saddest part. Honestly the feeling I get from this game kind of reminds me of Destiny. It's a lot of disconnected missions and you sit there waiting for the story to come together, but it just never does. Meanwhile the core mechanics are fucking great even though the mission scenarios are repetitive.

Oh hey its not just me
 

Skux

Member
Screw it. This game looks amazing.

I haven't played the other games. But will I still follow what is happening here if I pick it up? I feel like I'm missing out right now :3

The main story isn't that hard to understand actually, it's a pretty simple revenge set-up:

- You are Big Boss, a legendary soldier turned mercenary
- You stole a huge amount of money and started your own offshore military base-nation in the Caribbean with your friends Ocelot and Kaz Miller
- Your base was attacked by a mysterious faction called Cipher, killing almost everyone and putting you in a coma for 9 years
- You wake up in 1984 and your goal is to rebuild Mother Base in the Mediterranean and get revenge on Cipher
- Cipher appears to be led by a man named Skullface, but it's strongly suspected your old rival Zero is involved
 

Persona7

Banned
Oh no, the 'true ending' isn't an ending, Kotaku has an article showing off the cut content. The ending was cut and the story left unfinished.

This is a disaster. I got the game a week ago, when people reach where I am gonna be a lot of extremely annoyed gamers I think.

I kept waiting for a certain part of the story to continue...and it never did.

I've been seeing comments similar to this around the internet and it is making me not want to continue playing. All this time and absurd amount of money spent on development and it is still not finished.
 

Bsigg12

Member
The biggest issue with limiting your guns on a mission is when you play it the first time through you have no idea what you're gonna need. How many times did people take their tranq pistol and a silence sniper only to find you need the rocket and grenade launchers.

Between weapon drops and the yellow mission advice, never.
 

MattyG

Banned
Is I think mission 28 is literally impossible. I don't even know if that's the one I'm actually on anymore, it might be 29.
 

RDreamer

Member
I've been seeing comments similar to this around the internet and it is making me not want to continue playing. All this time and absurd amount of money spent on development and it is still not finished.

Perhaps that's the reason for the fallout with Kojima?
 
I think perception of this game is gonna go south once people get to the back half. It's embarrassing how unfinished this game seems.

Yo can people stop talking about the ending. Please go to the spoiler thread. Now I'm going to be thinking about people's opinions of the ending and whether it's finished etc.
 
In this thread: people who haven't played pw haha. This is MGS at its finest. Very mature and fleshed out game finally not held back by hardware like mgs1,2,3,4. Those 4 are all classics but mgsv is what Kojima had in mind all these years.
If MGS V is what he had in mind all these years then why did he fill his previous games with dialogue and exposition. And proceed to have none of that in TPP?

If MGS V was the game he always wanted. Then who the fuck made MGS 1, 2, 3, 4? His doppleganger?
 
I gotta say, limiting you to only 3 guns per mission could be one of the most asinine decisions I have ever seen in a game.

Firstly, why in the holy fuck is bionic arm a whole god damn pistol slot? Are you shitting me?

Secondly, why the crap only 1 pistol slot? I mean, come the fuck on. Tranq is a must. So that leaves me with absolutely nothing else....

Then the 2 heavy weapon slots are both different as well, so you cant have 2 rifles for instances.

Man, I wish I got this game for PC, so someone could mod this garbage out.

Yeah, that's the most boneheaded part of it for me. Much as I'd prefer the traditional 'carry everything at once' approach from MGS1-4, I can understand why they'd go to a three weapon system, but further limiting your Primary Weapon slots to 'hip' and 'back' weapons is just needless. There's no reason why Big Boss couldn't have an assault rifle at his hip and a shotgun on his back, or a rifle at his hip and a rocket launcher on his back. Just... why?

Also no reason he couldn't just have two pistol holsters like Ocelot does.
 
For a combat deployment mission i need a tank. I extracted a lot of them but its saying i don't have one. Anyone else know whats up with that?
 

Venom Fox

Banned
Anyone who's completed Mission 32 please help
I just did Mission 32 and Was told to go back to MB, when I arrived Eli was stood there and walked round a corner to the right, he looked back as if he wanted me to follow but I couldn't find him.
Is there anything significant about that ? I'm still here just in case lol.
 
Anyone who's completed Mission 32 please help
I just did Mission 32 and Was told to go back to MB, when I arrived Eli was stood there and walked round a corner to the right, he looked back as if he wanted me to follow but I couldn't find him.
Is there anything significant about that ? I'm still here just in case lol.

No he's just being a creep
 

AdanVC

Member
Holy shit I just saw this on tumblr and it gave me chills I tell you!

>2015
>Hideo Kojima announces he is leaving Konami after MGSV
>MGSV is released.
>Widely acclaimed
>Ending is amazing and wraps up the plot perfectly
>Maximum score in every single gaming website or magazine
>Gets all game awards ever
>GOTY
>Kojima does not show up to receive any awards
>Konami representative shows up to get the award and is booed by the audience screaming “A HIDEO KOJIMA GAME”
>Kojima vanishes completely
>2016
>Konami announces a new MGS game without Kojima on the team
>Critics are not pleased. Say it is a sacrilege to the series legacy.
>Valve announces a surprise press conference to be broadcast worldwide at Camp Nou, Barcelona
>the stadium is packed full, the entire world’s press is there
>during the conference Gabe Newell talks about the SteamOS, SteamVR and such.
>conference ends.
>lights go off
>Gaben says “I have a surprise for you”
>spotlights pointing to the ceiling
>a helicopter appears, a rope comes out of it
>Hideo Kojima goes down the rope
>Gabe Newell says “please applaud our new developer”
>the crowd goes wild
>people are crying
>people are on their knees and bowing
>Kojima goes up on stage and holds the microphone
>“I also have a surprise for you” he says
>Lights go off again

>The screen shows “Valve and Kojima Productions present”
>“A Hideo Kojima game”
>“Half Life 3”
>histerical screaming
>people are crying on the streets
>the cure for AIDS is discovered
>world peace
>2017
>Half Life 3 is released
>Acclaimed as the best game of the entire history of videogames
>creates new standards for videogames
>released on every platform existent.
>Valve buys Sony, Microsoft, Motorola, Apple and Samsung
>2018
>Valve is the biggest corporation in the world

>Gabe Newell announces another press conference

>stadium is full again
>Gaben and Kojima appear on stage, hand in hand

>everyone applauds
>then the lights go off
>the center of the stadium opens
>a huge machine appears, armed with all belic power existant in the world
>“Thanks to Mr. Newell, I could conclude my life plan, I announce to you… the metal gear”

>world domination plan
>millions of other Metal Gears appear in the world
>The era of Valve is here
>Kojima cannot be stopped
>War begins
>Humanity is extinct,
 

Persona7

Banned
Does anyone else have their ps4 sounding like a jet while this is running? I never heard a game make it run so loud so often before

yes but pretty much every game makes my PS4 sound like a jet. Even changing themes on the menu makes the fans kick in and I try to keep it dust free.
 

Kama_1082

Banned
I'm 17 hrs in and barely finished CH 12. I think it's time for me to cut the BS and go through the story missions. At this rate, I'll be at 60 without finishing it. :(
 

chefbags

Member
Soo I've been up to mission 7 and been doing quite a lot of side ops.
I was going through another side OP and out of nowhere comes quiet and mission 11 pops up.

Is it okay if I do this mission and it won't do anything in regards to the story? Or should I do the missions in order to not miss out on anything.
 

Kama_1082

Banned
Soo I've been up to mission 7 and been doing quite a lot of side ops.
I was going through another side OP and out of nowhere comes quiet and mission 11 pops up.

Is it okay if I do this mission and it won't do anything in regards to the story? Or should I do the missions in order to not miss out on anything.
You're fine, go ahead and do it
 

Bsigg12

Member
Soo I've been up to mission 7 and been doing quite a lot of side ops.
I was going through another side OP and out of nowhere comes quiet and mission 11 pops up.

Is it okay if I do this mission and it won't do anything in regards to the story? Or should I do the missions in order to not miss out on anything.

That's how it happened for me. No noticeable difference for story but be prepared for Miller to get annoying during the fight.
 
Just got DD. Funny that i did a side op without an alert and right when i was about to leave the area a car shows up out of the blue and catches me and dhorse about to leave the scene.
 

Finalow

Member
the fuck is wrong with combat deployment missions?

I can't do a single one. "not enough units" which seems bullshit, I have more than enough units but when I try to assemble a squad for the mission the game doesn't let me select all the units I have, just 2 - 4 of them, and I need 5.
 

Verendus

Banned
Honestly after reading some of the stuff I just read, which was spoiler free, I'm not even sure I want to finish the game anymore. Also I'm at the second half and it's....strange.

You can instantly spot the moment that Konami's foot came down. It's sad to think they've done so much damage. I've never wanted a company to sink so hard before.
People give Konami shit, but this game's significant flaws are all on Kojima. Even with another 1-2 years, it'd still be mediocre. He received plenty of time to make this game, and their gaming division being mismanaged isn't entirely on some boogeyman executive at the top of Konami. Part of that blames lies with Kojima too. This game's significant failings all come from the design perspective.

It's been how long since MGS4? In the time it took MGSV to launch, Naughty Dog has created and launched Uncharted 2/3, The Last of Us, and soon Uncharted 4. That'll be around 40 million copies between all those games when it's all said and done. Three of those were all critical successes too, and UC4 will likely be no different.

Kojima managed to get Peace Walker out the door on PSP, and finally a big budget entry in MGSV. In 7 years. Peace Walker doesn't even really count, because its existence is kind of a joke in the first place.

This shitshow isn't all on Konami. It's on Kojima too.

Oh hey its not just me
It's actually a fantastic comparison.
 

Jintor

Member
By the way, in the context of all the new voice talent, (Mission 12)
Huey's voice acting is even more absurd than usual.

Great, but absurd.
 

RDreamer

Member
Anyone else see the (mission 11)
hilariously 16 bit looking texture on the barrel of Quiet's sniper rifle when she's shooting at the plane pilot when you take her back to the base the first time
 

No_Style

Member
So I guess it isn't the best idea to go back to missions early on because I feel like I am missing vital info/equipment to complete some of the other objectives. Spent time on the first mission trying to get into everything. Then going back to find the commander and not finding him. Wasted like an hour.

Whoops...
 
Anyone else see the (mission 11)
hilariously 16 bit looking texture on the barrel of Quiet's sniper rifle when she's shooting at the plane pilot when you take her back to the base the first time

Yeah, I think it might have been impossible to NOT notice that. Made me feel like I should have been wearing
the ps1 solid snake costume

Edit: I feel like in pre-release stuff, I could have sworn there was MGS4 style gun customization. Am I misremembering? if not, how do I do all thaT?
 
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