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Metaphor: ReFantazio |OT| Don’t Worry, It’s All in Your Head!
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Shake Your Rump
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To be honest, this isn't that big of a deal. I rarely used normal attacks, and you can see all the special attacks from the archetype menu. Combat is all about special and synthesis attacks, and they are all labelled with their type.
TropicanaTwista
Member
I typically use special attacks more than normal but sometimes I need to use a normal attack to hit a weakness and get a free turn, especially when lower on MP.
I still think it's a stupid design choice. That page has so much info, a lot not needed already. Just throw a small icon to let the player know
bender
What time is it?
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Is there any penalty in terms of finishing each calendar’s main dungeon early? Like not getting those extra days to do quests/bonds?
Should I wait till the last day or do them ASAP?
Should I wait till the last day or do them ASAP?
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
You should do the first one (Grand Cathedral) ASAP because it unlocks being able to bond with your teammates.
Can't remember about the rest but, in any case, there's no penalty for doing them early at all.
killatopak
Gold Member
I cannot believe you just said that.Not as good as Persona 3, but certainly better than Persona 4.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
basedNot as good as Persona 3, but certainly better than Persona 4.
Topher
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In terms of story ?
If you are not satisfied now the later game wont change your mind I think.
Markio128
Gold Member
I’m struggling a little bit with this game if I’m being honest because it seems to be lacking that something special to keep me engaged. I already feel like I’m just going through the motions, only 10 hours in.
I find the time limit a bit confusing because I’m not sure how long the dungeons will take to complete, or how much of an impact the side missions will have on the time limit. Do all side missions that occur during a specific period need to be completed before the main missions, or can I carry on with them after the main missions are completed?
I find the time limit a bit confusing because I’m not sure how long the dungeons will take to complete, or how much of an impact the side missions will have on the time limit. Do all side missions that occur during a specific period need to be completed before the main missions, or can I carry on with them after the main missions are completed?
zapper
Member
yes, in terms of story, writing and script especially, it's all so banal, predictable and incapable of involving... it reminds me of gow ragnarok who missed almost every decisive point of the game on the emotional plane.
in altabury i was excited, finally something big was happening and everything is done so badly, listlessly and quickly...
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zapper
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you can do secondary missions even after the main events, it is recommended because sometimes they will ask you to return to those dungeons.
you can do the main ones on the first day, I haven't had any problems so far, you just need to have supplies to heal yourself and recharge your pm (sometimes they weren't even needed).
don't even buy weapons and anything else until the end, you'll always find something better in the dungeons
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Hey at least its not goblins again.Man this game recycles so much fucking content.
The damn side bosses on last dungeon are boring variants from the ones you faced before?
od-chan
Gold Member
Yeah, same. It lost me quickly, sadly. It's easy to pinpoint too: The writing is really awfull bullshit (rAcISm iS bAd mkayyy???), even by JRPG standards, and then there's the heavy focus on Fujoshi. Like you can clearly see who they were trying to reach as an audience here by looking at the main cast, their design and their mannerisms, and then compare this to Persona 3, 4 or 5.
I could probably tolerate one of these issues, but combined they simply suck the fun out of things for me. Like alright I'm not in it for the story, but I'm not even it in for the characters, which is pretty much a death sentence.
It's a good game on a technical level. They improved on most of the systems of previous games and these improvements do elevate the game quite a bit. Too bad everything else sucks ("sucks" is a strong word but you get the idea).
I really want to finish this at some point (still got it installed even) because obviously there are parts to like, maybe even love. But I really don't like the direction they took this in and I hope they don't mess up Persona next. This could've easily been like a 10/10 GOAT, instead it's more like a 8/10 at best.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
I think I hit the final deadline/dungeon in this game, taking my time with the last month.
Well they don't have 10 years worth of SMT models to repurpose, so...Man this game recycles so much fucking content.
The damn side bosses on last dungeon are boring variants from the ones you faced before?
Nankatsu
Member
Well, finally finish it.
Maybe I had my hopes way high up considering this was Atlus biggest project outside Persona, after outputting so much Persona games.
I honestly thought this would be larger and better in scope, but kind of falls short on that regard. In the end it feels that they didn't fully take the risk they should.
Like I've stated here and on many other topics, I think the game cuts so many corners that it just doesn't have that AAA feeling. It gives more of a budget feeling.
Plus the engine doesn't help. Game feels dated.
Narrative wise it manages to be fresh for a while, with a decent amount of highs, but also lows. Cast is good and the villain is amazing, even though his final apperance felt rushed to me. The story was what managed to push me until the very end.
The gameplay is more challeging than Persona, yes, but I was expecting more variety and mechanics.
Overall it's a mixed bag for me. Doesn't mean it's bad, but certainly didn't manage to live up to what I was truly expecting from it.
Maybe I had my hopes way high up considering this was Atlus biggest project outside Persona, after outputting so much Persona games.
I honestly thought this would be larger and better in scope, but kind of falls short on that regard. In the end it feels that they didn't fully take the risk they should.
Like I've stated here and on many other topics, I think the game cuts so many corners that it just doesn't have that AAA feeling. It gives more of a budget feeling.
Plus the engine doesn't help. Game feels dated.
Narrative wise it manages to be fresh for a while, with a decent amount of highs, but also lows. Cast is good and the villain is amazing, even though his final apperance felt rushed to me. The story was what managed to push me until the very end.
The gameplay is more challeging than Persona, yes, but I was expecting more variety and mechanics.
Overall it's a mixed bag for me. Doesn't mean it's bad, but certainly didn't manage to live up to what I was truly expecting from it.
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ShadyAcshuns
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Anyways, after reading some of this thread I'm glad I held off for the Royal/Golden/Reloaded version.
GateofD
Member
oh so there is a discussion thread for this, this forum search function sucks, cause if you search metaphor, this topic doesn't show up, but the other review one that got locked.
Kind of glad your stat build isn't as strict as in SMTIV, cause my stats are messed up, i went str, but I made my character a sniper cause guns and bows are cool. But the final stage is a bunch of magic atk skills.
Kind of glad your stat build isn't as strict as in SMTIV, cause my stats are messed up, i went str, but I made my character a sniper cause guns and bows are cool. But the final stage is a bunch of magic atk skills.
Basilio is the secret MVP for endgame. Now I spend all my combats buffing his attacks before he hits with his ability that gives weakness to physical damage, and I have attached to him the trinket which gives him two turns in a row. He hits like a truck with 2-3k damage each time reapplying weakness and obliterates every enemy, even the dragon super bosses (playing on hard). All three other characters are basically rendered useless lol except for buffing him / debuffing enemy defenses. In case by miracle an enemy gets a turn, Hesmay has agility to the max and the trinkets that deletes all the other turns from the ennemies when he dodges
I wonder if this strat will work as well with the final boss as it does with basically every other enemy now.
I wonder if this strat will work as well with the final boss as it does with basically every other enemy now.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Imo, best party would be:
Hero as Mage/Healer
Junah as Persona Master to create weak points
Either Hulkenberg to tank hits/do counters or Heismay to do evades
Basilio to break stuff
Yes basically that’s my end game party (with Hero as Prince) with Heismay.
Strohl is kinda useless in the end game I think, his royal archetype is 100% physical and Basilio is much more efficient as a DPS monster machine
kurisu_1974
Member
Heismay was such a good character tho. Dude also made all the difference in those final encounters with his almost 100% dodge rate.
I agree the whole game was a bit disappointing. Didn't like how the calendar worked, felt it was less of an issue in the Persona games for me.
I agree the whole game was a bit disappointing. Didn't like how the calendar worked, felt it was less of an issue in the Persona games for me.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Just completed it and loved it. The overall story and message came together neatly once the credits rolled. Like a lot of Atlus games at points it gets drawn out with having too many days between dungeons, but I felt it was better balanced than Persona.
The music is masterful. The art is georgeous, and the presentation and time put into the design is some of the best I've seen in a JRPG.
I'm hyped for a sequel for which I hope they're already balls deep in development so we get it shortly after P6.
The music is masterful. The art is georgeous, and the presentation and time put into the design is some of the best I've seen in a JRPG.
I'm hyped for a sequel for which I hope they're already balls deep in development so we get it shortly after P6.
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Chuck Berry
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The more comments I read the more Im glad I avoided this.
Might as well just fire up P4Golden or P5Royal since I barely touched em
Might as well just fire up P4Golden or P5Royal since I barely touched em
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Same. Reading comments that say it feels incomplete remind me it's the vanilla version: aka the unfinished edition, much like all the first released Persona games since 3.
GateofD
Member
idk, the music is just okay for me.
like of course the generic battle bgm is fine, the awakening theme is killer, but the regular dungeon theme and town themes don't really leave an impression on me.
but wow, tough crowd in this topic, but then again, I played and finished thru the Fire Emblem x SMT game.
like of course the generic battle bgm is fine, the awakening theme is killer, but the regular dungeon theme and town themes don't really leave an impression on me.
but wow, tough crowd in this topic, but then again, I played and finished thru the Fire Emblem x SMT game.
I aggree, P4 > P3, better bunch of friends and I enjoyed the story more and the TV universe. After finishing Golden, I was left sadden with the loss of my P4 friends.
But Metaphour makes me smile, because no matter what people say. Turn based combat is still amazing and engaging when done correctly. Perfect handheld or portal game to play.
I really admire how much Atlus gets from artistic style compared to developers chasing real life graphics and not making profit. Japan is really leading the way now.
But Metaphour makes me smile, because no matter what people say. Turn based combat is still amazing and engaging when done correctly. Perfect handheld or portal game to play.
I really admire how much Atlus gets from artistic style compared to developers chasing real life graphics and not making profit. Japan is really leading the way now.
sloppyjoe_gamer
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I am loving this game so much! The music especially is outstanding. Atlus is just unmatched with JRPGS
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Go_Ly_Dow
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The final phase is pure evil. SUFFER!
consoul
Member
Shoulda called it Eldan King.
Finished the game today and I don't know about the ending. Had great fun with the game, but the trials, last dungeon & final boss were a bit underwhelming. The epilogue didn't really pay off for me either.
The journey was a blast, I just wish the ending was stronger.
Finished the game today and I don't know about the ending. Had great fun with the game, but the trials, last dungeon & final boss were a bit underwhelming. The epilogue didn't really pay off for me either.
The journey was a blast, I just wish the ending was stronger.
GateofD
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last month stuff.
the one thing I dislike is that
the one thing I dislike is that
The Prince archetype is so OP, there's no excuse not to use it other than as a personal choice to handicap yourself. Just throws any character building you had during the rest of the game out the window, cause Prince is the OP canon archetype.
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