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Metro: Last Light |OT| Last bullet. Last breath. Last chance.
Not an SDK (scroll to the bottom): http://www.dsogaming.com/news/metro-last-light-season-pass-dlcs-detailed/
HolyFridge
Member
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Just finished it. The final portions of the game are a bit of a mess and suffer from a sudden transition to pure shooting but still a good game. My biggest complaint is an overreliance on scripted moments and handholding--the game shines when you are off on your own in the hostile world but those moments are too few and far between. The sheer creepiness and desolation of the outdoor locales is amazing, so much so that when I did get a chance to explore a little, the sense of foreboding was akin to what Super Metroid gives you in spades. The game needed more of those moments.
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Deleted member 102362
Unconfirmed Member
Anyone seen this yet?
That image might just be a tad NSFW.
HolyFridge
Member
It was censored by the lighter, but ill edit it out just in case.
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Deleted member 102362
Unconfirmed Member
Thanks for the clarification.
So wait, I heard they were going to release five DLCs. Has it been parred down to four, or was that a mistranslation?
And after that, they still want to do a separate SDK and multiplayer component, right?
Neuromancer
Member
So... This game gets kind of weird towards the end. Not bad.. Just weird.
As for the developer DLC... There's probably no way this is going to happen but I'd pay good money for a Timesplitters style map editor (basically linking rooms together) with the ability to place enemy AI and some basic objectives.
As for the developer DLC... There's probably no way this is going to happen but I'd pay good money for a Timesplitters style map editor (basically linking rooms together) with the ability to place enemy AI and some basic objectives.
therealminime
Member
Replayed it again to get the good ending. I was also trying for the "killing no enemies" achievement and I think I accidentally ran over a guy I had knocked out with the rail car. Oh well. Don't really care about Steam achievements, at least I got the good ending.
legacyzero
Banned
Ever play a game so damn good, you dont want play it for fear of completing it?
Scott32020
Member
Not sure if its really on purpose, but I've been playing only a chapter or two at a time.
Yup, haven't happened in a long time for me though. Happened with Metro 2033 and now also with Last Light.
Just finished it, man what an experience! Such an amazing ride!
The atmosphere, the immersion! Fantastic! I love how everything added up to it, the graphics, the sound, the mechanics, it's almost as if everything was especifically desinged with immersion as the goal.
Definitely GOTY for me, and it's going to be a tough one to beat.
And yes the game does feel a bit rushed in the end but I guess it's hard to have it all nowadays but 4A games got pretty damn close... at least for me.
Now comes the long sad wait for Metro 2035. I hope 4A games get the recognition and money they so much deserve. Amazing devs proving that FPS's can be much more than just shooting or a bomb fest like CoD.
The atmosphere, the immersion! Fantastic! I love how everything added up to it, the graphics, the sound, the mechanics, it's almost as if everything was especifically desinged with immersion as the goal.
Definitely GOTY for me, and it's going to be a tough one to beat.
And yes the game does feel a bit rushed in the end but I guess it's hard to have it all nowadays but 4A games got pretty damn close... at least for me.
Now comes the long sad wait for Metro 2035. I hope 4A games get the recognition and money they so much deserve. Amazing devs proving that FPS's can be much more than just shooting or a bomb fest like CoD.
Finished this last night. It's so much better than the first and looks amazing. The last few surface sections had me hoping the next fallout looks as good. The world and atmosphere is top notch and i was itching to explore it. The only problem I had was the swamp and catacombs section. Those flying things were jerks and fighting hordes of the mutant wolves in tight dark tunnels killed me a few times.
I'm not sure if a third game is planned or what they would do with it but this was a very nice surprise.
I'm not sure if a third game is planned or what they would do with it but this was a very nice surprise.
Neuromancer
Member
Yep... And I just finished it. =(
I think I may be buying the season pass for this game, I want more. It was excellent from beginning to end. Well done 4A, you guys did a great job.
Facism
Member
yes. Took my time with this one. A level or 2 at a time. Delicious
Neuromancer
Member
I got the bad ending too and I was happy with it, not sure I need to see the good ending.
I also got the bad ending in the first game, which worked out well since it lead right into the second game.
dark_chris
Member
I dunno why but my mind keeps making me call this Last Night.
Anyway, what do you guys think so far of the game? I'm thinking of picking it up!
Anyway, what do you guys think so far of the game? I'm thinking of picking it up!
Neuromancer
Member
It's superb, get it! Great atmosphere, satisfying combat and stealth, excellent graphics, and very unique mechanics (lighter/flash light/NV/ wiping mask/changing filters) etc. The story is a bit touching as well, I thought so anyway.
Yup, same here. I won't go into any details because of spoilers but I know exactly what you mean and I felt the same way, great emotional connection.
d00d3n
Member
I need help for the end of the "Bandits" level if someone is up for it:
I have to say,
was some immersive shit. The balance between stealth segments (which are optional I guess) and exploration/action segments in the game is fantastic. Other fps developers should study the pacing in last light.
You pull a wire to signal some guys to send over a boat and the gorilla mutants start to attack. I think I am reasonably specced with the automatic shotgun and the four pipe duplet (found on the scene), but the gorillas attack from every angle. I have tried defending the area close to where you pull the wire (one death) and one of the corners on the second floor (two deaths). Is there a cheap tactic to get me through this? Some magic spot where the enemies just line up to be killed or don't attack? Btw, are there any repercussions for lowering difficulty (from default normal)?
I have to say,
going through the abandoned metro with the railcar and exploring optional areas
legacyzero
Banned
FUUUUUUUUUCK I had to finish it.
Alcoholikaust
Member
just beat this a few minutes ago: great job 4A
great and beautiful game, probably the best looking game I have seen on my PC, crysis 3 be damned.
I can only pray more devs try to make an effort and produce more visually striking games in the coming months with the "next gen" around the corner.
great and beautiful game, probably the best looking game I have seen on my PC, crysis 3 be damned.
I can only pray more devs try to make an effort and produce more visually striking games in the coming months with the "next gen" around the corner.
i stayed about half way up on the stairs to the left if you're facing away from where the boat is coming. all the mutants will funnel up the stairs making it easier. setup a trip mine or two to slow the first group then a gernade or two when needed. i had the silenced 1round shotgun pistol(kills everything 1 shot), auto shotgun and a night scoped rifle of some sort as backup.
i got the bad ending even though i did all the stuff needed for the good one. the bad one is better, fits better with the name of your group and what happens, so i guess it glitched in my favor.
whassupbun
Member
In addition to what big_z said above, incendiary grenade also works very well once you have found a choke point, just throw one down and the watchmen will run straight into the fire. There's no repercussions for lowering the difficulty if you find it too tough (unless you're going for the Ranger Hardcore achievement), you can change it at any time.
d00d3n
Member
bigz and wassupbun: Thanks, using the choke point on the left stairs (looking back) made it a whole lot easier. If you go too far up the stairs I think enemies will attack you from behind also, but it was fine staying in the lower part of the stairs. Thanks for the help, now I can continue with this excellent game.
Wind's Howling
Member
This is how you do FPS's. So smooth. So elegant. So immersive. So much fun.
GlamFM
Banned
You forgot to mention the perfect pacing.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Totally agree; and even in the bad ending there is still some resolution to the things building up to the end. The "good" ending seemed to be too convenient.
Wind's Howling
Member
I think I forgot about a dozen other things to say just how good this game is. Sometimes there are no words to acknowledge something as great as this game. You just have to play it too feel it.
Gintoki313
Banned
So I just bought Last Light and thought I would finish Metro 2033 (got this a long time ago free from a FB promotion) before starting this up. So I have a question about Last Light before I finish 2033. Did the stealth get any better in this game? I read reviews and all they say is that their is stealth, not how good the stealth is.
I know in Metro 2033 which i'm playing right now the stealth atrocious. The throwing knives barely kill people, there is no stealth regular knife kills, and since the game is so dark I can barely tell my environment around me or where my enemies are.
So is the stealth any better in this game? I want to know before I jump into it.
I know in Metro 2033 which i'm playing right now the stealth atrocious. The throwing knives barely kill people, there is no stealth regular knife kills, and since the game is so dark I can barely tell my environment around me or where my enemies are.
So is the stealth any better in this game? I want to know before I jump into it.
d00d3n
Member
Stealth is massively improved. Using silenced weapons to take out every enemy is slightly op, but if you are trying to knock most enemies out and use weapons only as a last resort the balance is just fine.
The maps with humans have clearly been designed with stealth in mind. The arrangements of enemies are often "unsolvable" to begin with, which means that you have to get up close, mess with light sources and take people out when they go off to investigate. Getting up close sometimes means exploring maps in unusual ways by climbing on top of stuff and crawling in sewers/air ducts. Creating noise is usually not very effective (more likely to get you detected), but letting enemies "see something" for a second or two can make them go out and investigate.
Up until venice I have been able to knock every enemy out without raising alarms or being detected. Stealth seems to be a viable option in every encounter with humans so far.
I thought the stealth in metro 2033 was awful. The useless stealth was the sole reason that I did not finish the game.
Chris M. Ferguson
Neo Member
4A are amazing at atmosphere, but I agree with the other comments on the combat (lackluster enemy encounters) and stealth sections, which are fine for me, personally, just too many of them with no alt routes. I wish the game focused more on atmosphere, like Silent Hill and Amnesia. But I did love a lot of it!
But for a game that puts so much emphasis on atmosphere, for it to devolve into shooting, especially towards the ending and with archaic boss encounters, is disappointing.
For me, the emotional highlight of the game was the flashback in the plane. Also loved how 4A wasn't afraid of sexuality in the game. Reminded me of Witcher. Our American devs can learn how to loosen up from our European friends.
But the little things, the slow drives in the car through the tunnels reminded me of the calm yet unsettling driving in Half-Life 2, which I loved. The worst parts of the game, I feel, is a symptom of "well, it's a 60 dollar game, so we have to give a bunch of features for everyone and to pad the game's length," which is a shame.
I want 4A to focus on a five hour game, smaller, tighter. Scarier. I would also like to interact with characters. The game reminded me of the dollhouse effect in Bioshock Infinite, can't interact with anyone, can only watch. This isn't a theater play, it's a game. Let me interact with them. I know that's hard for a smaller developer, which is why I suggest for them to do something smaller.
Favorite moment:
But for a game that puts so much emphasis on atmosphere, for it to devolve into shooting, especially towards the ending and with archaic boss encounters, is disappointing.
Having a boss ram into pillars and shoot its back feels the complete opposite of the game.
But the little things, the slow drives in the car through the tunnels reminded me of the calm yet unsettling driving in Half-Life 2, which I loved. The worst parts of the game, I feel, is a symptom of "well, it's a 60 dollar game, so we have to give a bunch of features for everyone and to pad the game's length," which is a shame.
I want 4A to focus on a five hour game, smaller, tighter. Scarier. I would also like to interact with characters. The game reminded me of the dollhouse effect in Bioshock Infinite, can't interact with anyone, can only watch. This isn't a theater play, it's a game. Let me interact with them. I know that's hard for a smaller developer, which is why I suggest for them to do something smaller.
Favorite moment:
When you're going through the catacombs and the shadow/silhouette of a man appears right in front of you, it's so subtle, yet really unsettling. Also loved how they found a way to ground the supernatural events by essentially saying the bombs burned the souls of people into the city.
Gintoki313
Banned
Thanks for answering one of my curiosity's about the game. In Metro 2033 I couldn't stealth worth anything because like I said even the stealth items barely worked. At least in this one they give you more stuff to work with.
legacyzero
Banned
That awkward moment when your wife walks in while you're playing Metro during that most inconvenient part of the game.
Ok stuck again,what am I suppose to do in Venice,went everywhere, talked to everyone,figured I had to get drunk to move on with the story maybe but that didn't work,knocked on all doors,just going around in circle and nothing happens...before reaching this area,I had a big area in the tunnels where I was like a ghost,no one was seeing me even if I shot at them...weird bug.
legacyzero
Banned
I would consult your compass, otherwise that DOES sound like a bug....
Strange in Stereo
Member
There's more to it. A lot, actually.
There are moral points, getting them counts towards getting the good ending, every time you get one the screen flashes white. Aside from letting Lesnitsky and Pavel live, you also have to let the enemies that surrender to you live, obey the Dark One when he tells you not to kill Watchmen/Demons, playing some of the musical instruments also counts for some reason. Also finding hidden ammo stashes, donating money, listening to conversations, I believe that killing the least amount of human enemies possible also counts, but you don't get moral points for that. And no one knows exactly how many moral points or how many good things you need to do to get the good ending.
Neuromancer
Member
Man it's burning me up wondering what this developer pack DLC is. I wish they could give at least a general idea of what each DLC would be since they're trying to sell the season pass.
My wife watched me
She was not amused.
Haha
My wife watched me
'get a lap dance.'
Wind's Howling
Member
I honestly believe that was part of the mission because there was a cutscene prior to it.
Got it,I sometimes forget to look at that compass...after I got my
lap dance
So just finished it, 12 hours for my first play through, a lot of exploring ( have all but like 3 or so diary pages) and seriously one incredible game I thought.
The ending was... unexpected and felt abrupt, but I like how they did something different compared to what usually happens.
My favourite parts were pretty much all the out door areas, they felt so atmospheric and real, especially later on with the rain and winds. Just incredible.
The ending was... unexpected and felt abrupt, but I like how they did something different compared to what usually happens.
My favourite parts were pretty much all the out door areas, they felt so atmospheric and real, especially later on with the rain and winds. Just incredible.
cobragt4001
Banned
Man I beat LL and I'm pissed.......because the shit was a blast every second omg will 4A make another Metro? How about a prequel or something, I need more Metro goddamnit!!! I guess it might be good to let LL be the last so it doesn't become like Resident Evil.
That is true, I would like another one but I think it's probably for the best for this to end here.
What I do REALLY wish for is that other developers take note and make atmospherics shooters and such.