Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Official thread of HOLY FREAKING CRAP

Is this hyper mode
the same hyper in Super Metroid and does that mean that Samus is still "corrupted" at the end of the game?
 
Tristam said:
You mean you actually control the joystick to move the ball? lol, I can't believe those morons would do something like use a joystick to move. Sarcasm aside, have you actually played through all of Prime and Echoes (especially Echoes)? The puzzles are simply brilliant, particularly those that require you to boost off of a spider ball track and press R to "catch" yourself on another track.
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i think every game has movement in it. it is the way in which you move that determines the gameplay, and ultimately determines whether or not the game is fun.

okay i admit it, i never played echoes *:D*, but i have played prime through twice, and i believe what i said about it in that game at least. i hope you are right that i will like the rails more, but i never enjoyed them in prime, nor the 2d tunnels.
 
tetrisgrammaton said:
i think every game has movement in it. it is the way in which you move that determines the gameplay, and ultimately determines whether or not the game is fun.

okay i admit it, i never played echoes *:D*, but i have played prime through twice, and i believe what i said about it in that game at least. i hope you are right that i will like the rails more, but i never enjoyed them in prime, nor the 2d tunnels.
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The spider ball tracks in Echoes are much better than in Prime. But if you don't like the 2D tunnels, uh, do you like the morph ball portions in any of the 2D Metroid games...?
 
Echoes really improved the spider ball over Prime by adding the ability to boost away from spider tracks.
Caretaker Drone baby
It's looking like Corruption takes it another step towards awesome.

Also, you can use the morph ball outside of the required areas. It's pretty awesome to roll around the Prime and Echoes worlds, and the third person camera is amazingly good. I'd call it infallible except for a glitch that some people have experienced in one room in Torvus bog.
 
ant1532 said:
Um.. For those thinking Mother Brain was created by the humans... No. Mother Brain was made by the Chozo. It watched after Samus as she grew up with the Chozo on Zebes. Read about it.
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I hope Retro never allows their storyline to be dictated by a manga that's not even canon. Retro's ideas are way better anyway. Sure there might not be many degrees separating a Chozo creation from a Federation creation, but Retro's presentation completely sold it.

By the way, were there ever more than two volumes? The first volume was actually really good, but I never saw anything beyond the second one.
 
Tristam said:
The spider ball tracks in Echoes are much better than in Prime. But if you don't like the 2D tunnels, uh, do you like the morph ball portions in any of the 2D Metroid games...?
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yeah they are great, but you know in the others its more about discovery, finding secret passages, alternative routes, dead ends. in prime it just seems like a way to get from point A to point B, and maybe C, with a few missles thrown in along the way. also i did not think it fit well with the overall structure of the game. in 2d metroids it seems like a natural extension, but in prime, the only reason the tunnels were done like that were because they were a throwback.
 
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This shot was all Retro needed to throw in to make me blow my fanboi load :O
 
You simply have no idea how well the morph ball tunnels work in Echoes. Especially Sanctuary Fortress. Especially the main reactor room, but all over that area really - but there are notable and sensibly integrated constructs in all four zones. It's really a major part of the gameplay, being integral to three boss fights and a major element of a further three. The specific complaints you're raising are very much addressed.
 
they mapped out Mother Brain's future room nicely.

Architect: Yes, there will be several guns that will shoot spaghetti-O's from all sides as well as small holes that only a orb type ball can fit through as well as lava rising about quarter midway up the room. Remember to set the metal platforms apart for jumping distance.
 
The production values were through the roof. Nintendo logo, Retro logo, Prime logo, Samus spinning around, the zoom in on her eye, the text that flashes up RETINAL SCAN COMPLETE, PHAZON FOUND, the music, the expanding vertical blind animations on the Aurora schematic, the voice acting, even the writing is pretty good. "A vast network links all existing Auroras, allowing them access to a tremendous database without peer."

So awesome.
 
TwinIonEngines said:
The production values were through the roof. Nintendo logo, Retro logo, Prime logo, Samus spinning around, the zoom in on her eye, the text that flashes up RETINAL SCAN COMPLETE, PHAZON FOUND, the music, the expanding vertical blind animations on the Aurora schematic, the voice acting, even the writing is pretty good. "A vast network links all existing Auroras, allowing them access to a tremendous database without peer."

So awesome.
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I just want to shake the hand of the person who thought that up/edited that. It's very good, and leagues better than anything else we've seen for this game. That final sentence/shot/music that plays all at the same time is pretty much perfect.
 
TwinIonEngines said:
The production values were through the roof. Nintendo logo, Retro logo, Prime logo, Samus spinning around, the zoom in on her eye, the text that flashes up RETINAL SCAN COMPLETE, PHAZON FOUND, the music, the expanding vertical blind animations on the Aurora schematic, the voice acting, even the writing is pretty good. "A vast network links all existing Auroras, allowing them access to a tremendous database without peer."

So awesome.
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Retro are gods when it comes to production values. I'm sort of pissed that the cover art is so shit just because I know Retro will have done an impeccable job and paid an incredible amount of attention to all the little details in terms of presentation on their end, while some chump graphic designer at NOA has just sort of shat all over their impressively cutting edge work. Prime and Echoes are still two of the most exceptionally presented games about, again cover art aside (although the original was alright if nothing special).
 
One day, we'll need to have a thread dedicated to Corruption's boxart analysis...I mean, the cover is nothing great but I can't seem to grasp the hate it gets around here.
 
ksamedi said:
So who is the leader of the space pirates anyway, is it Mother Brain or Ridly?
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Ridley. Based off last nights Aurora update, the Mother Brain is nothing more than an organic super computer.
 
tim1138 said:
Ridley. Based off last nights Aurora update, the Mother Brain is nothing more than an organic super computer.
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No, Ridley is just a high-ranking general. According to Space Pirate logs in Metroid Prime, there is a 'High Command'.
 
tim1138 said:
Ridley. Based off last nights Aurora update, the Mother Brain is nothing more than an organic super computer.
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Thats what i was thinking too, so basically we will witness the birth of Mother Brain in this one? Its seems its because of a virus.
 
biodegradablebean said:
No, Ridley is just a high-ranking general. According to Space Pirate logs in Metroid Prime, there is a 'High Command'.
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I stand corrected then, I must have missed that log.

ksamedi said:
Thats what i was thinking too, so basically we will witness the birth of Mother Brain in this one? Its seems its because of a virus.
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Not the original Mother Brain at least, the Prime games take place after the original Metroid.
 
tim1138 said:
I stand corrected then, I must have missed that log.



Not the original Mother Brain at least, the Prime games take place after the original Metroid.
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I guess so, i havent played the older versions for years now, i need to freshen up again. So what was the original Mother Brains motive again? And why did a super computer suddenly become a menace?
 
tim1138 said:
I stand corrected then, I must have missed that log.
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I looked them up, to be sure. :)

Prime Breach said:
Subject Metroid Prime's breach has been contained. Reports indicate that it sensed a large batch of raw Phazon in the lab from within its stasis tank and broke through the glass, using previously unsuspected strength. Besides consuming all of the Phazon, Metroid Prime assimilated several weapons and defense systems from fallen security units. It has suffered no ill effect from said assimilation: indeed, it began to use its newly acquired weapons against us. Once we pacified it, we were unable to remove the assimilated gear without threat to Metroid Prime--the gear is now an integral part of its body. Command is intrigued by this newfound ability, and has ordered further study to commence at once.
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Meta Ridley said:
The reconstruction of geoform 187, code-named Ridley, was recently completed. After his defeat on Zebes, Command ordered a number of metagenetic improvements for him. Though aggressive, we were able to implement these changes in a cycle. The metamorphosis was painful, but quite successful in the end. Early tests indicate a drastic increase in strength, mobility, and offensive capability. Cybernetic modules and armor plating have been added as well. We believe our creation, now called Meta Ridley, will become the mainstay of our security force, a job he will certainly relish.
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Phazon Program said:
Phazon mining is under way. Several garrisons have been established, and terraforming of the Chozo Ruins is under way. Security systems are operational, and Science Team continues to make progress in their biotech research. The Phendrana Drifts have proven to be an optimal location for Research Headquarters, and soon it will be joined by a fully operational Combat base and starport. If Command's predictions are half true, we shall rise to dominance in this sector within a deca-cycle. Truly, these are glorious times.
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Chozo Artifacts said:
We are particularly interested in a number of curious Chozo Artifacts we have been able to recover from a number of religious sites on Tallon IV. These relics resonate with power, and yet we are unable to harness them in any way. Science Team is attempting to fuse them together with Phazon, believing that a
link might exist between them. We know that these Artifacts are linked to the Chozo Temple that block full access to the Impact Crater. We have yet to crack this enigma, however. Command grows impatient regarding this matter: results must be produced soon.
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The Hunter said:
Security Command issued an all-points alert after the fall of Zebes. The alert concerns bioform Samus Aran, also known as the Hunter. Subject is a female hominid, and is heavily armed and extremely dangerous. Subject uses a powered armorsuit of unknown design in battle, along with a number of potent Beam and concussive weapons. All combat units are instructed to terminate Aran on sight, preferably in a fashion that will allow salvage of her powered armorsuit and weapons. A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
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Hunter Weapons said:
Science Team is attempting to reverse-engineer Samus Aran's arsenal, based off of data acquired from her assaults on our forces. Progress is slow, but steady. Command would dearly enjoy turning Aran's weapons against her. We believe we can implement Beam weapon prototypes in three cycles. Aran's Power Suit technology remains a mystery, especially the curious Morph Ball function. All attempts at duplicating it have ended in disaster: four test subjects were horribly broken and twisted when they engaged our Morph Ball prototypes. Science Team wisely decided to move on afterward.
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ksamedi said:
I guess so, i havent played the older versions for years now, i need to freshen up again. So what was the original Mother Brains motive again? And why did a super computer suddenly become a menace?
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I don't remember if Zero Mission laid out the story behind the original Mother Brain, but for the Aurora in Prime 3 we know from the official site that it gets infected with a strange virus (most likely Phazon).

biodegradablebean said:
lots of Prime logs
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Oh cool, thanks!
 
Super Metroid, Zero Mission and the comics (?) list Mother Brain as the computer that controls Zebes' defenses. Fusion the intro to Super Metroid (makes no sense does it)and the original call Mother Brain the leader. And Prime lists the high command (which could be just Ridley controling MetaRidley and the pirates on Tallon IV which are shown to be different by Zero Mission).

So I guess they never really decided but since Zero Mission is the most recent game and an official retelling it is most likely that Nintendo is going with the computer that controls Zebes defense. Which makes the most sense (destory the defense system and there is a melt down). My guess is that there are multiple "Mother Brains" in auroa complexs for federation defenses. Zebes was one of those but was take over by pirates and thus the original Mother Brain is just one of those. However in Prime 3 one of these Aurora brains is corrupted and alters that one to the Mother Brain seen in Super.
 
jjasper said:
Super Metroid, Zero Mission and the comics (?) list Mother Brain as the computer that controls Zebes' defenses. Fusion the intro to Super Metroid (makes no sense does it)and the original call Mother Brain the leader. And Prime lists the high command (which could be just Ridley controling MetaRidley which are shown to be different by Zero Mission).

So I guess they never really decided but since Zero Mission is the most recent game and an official retelling it is most likely that Nintendo is going with the computer that controls Zebes defense. Which makes the most sense (destory the defense system and there is a melt down. My guess is that there are multiple "Mother Brains" in auroa complexs for federation defenses. Zebes was one of those but was take over by pirates and thus the original Mother Brain is just one of those. However in Prime 3 one of these Aurora brains is corrupted and alters that one to the Mother Brain seen in Super.
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Yeah that seems like the most likely scenerio.
 
The spiderball stuff looks so freaking awesome. That whole world they were on looks so cool, and imaginative. Can't wait to sink my teeth into this one.
 
snack said:
The spiderball stuff looks so freaking awesome. That whole world they were on looks so cool, and imaginative. Can't wait to sink my teeth into this one.
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Yeah it should calm peoples fears of it being a purely action game.
 
Didn't Fusion make a big deal about the Federation being dastardly instead of innocent? What was the story with that, I haven't played it since 2002.

I'm still shooting for a big Federation betrayal in MP3. Being directly responsible for Mother Brain/Zebes, not just contracting out the brain.
 
I think a new series, like, Metroid Rebellion would be pretty hot. Like, Samus against the entire Federation, which is being controlled by Mother Brain via the Aurora network.

Become an outlaw, running from planet to planet destroying Auroras, etc.
 
ksamedi said:
I guess so, i havent played the older versions for years now, i need to freshen up again. So what was the original Mother Brains motive again? And why did a super computer suddenly become a menace?
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Mother Brain was in charge of the Metroid lab. Samus' mission was to destroy the said lab. It was the nervous system of the Pirate base on Zebes.
 
AdmiralViscen said:
Didn't Fusion make a big deal about the Federation being dastardly instead of innocent? What was the story with that, I haven't played it since 2002.

I'm still shooting for a big Federation betrayal in MP3. Being directly responsible for Mother Brain/Zebes, not just contracting out the brain.
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The federation experimented with the metroid saved by Samus if I'm not mistaken.

MP3: the question is, had mother brain been created for the sole purpose of being aurora or is mother brain a superior life form which existed in the first place or had been created by another race (chozo, space pirates?) If it is the latter, it maybe always had an evil consciousness and waited for the right moment to crush the federation. Is the corruption an experiment on auroras capabilities? I hope the game explains everything in detail.
 
Here's how I think it all went down. 20 years before Metroid Prime 3, as much as 5 years before Samus was taken in by the Chozo, the Galactic Federation (which includes Chozo) developed the Aurora. Mother Brain was probably the first aurora built, but it's still a part of the network. The Chozo began to rely too heavily on Mother Brain and their society began to decline because of this. Being with the Chozo caused Mother Brain to develop and enormous ego and it started to resent its creators (possibly because they felt they were smarter than it). Some time after Samus left Zebes, Mother Brain possibly helped the pirates overthrow the Chozo and the more simple-minded pirates probably stroked Mother Brain's massive ego by making it their main military computer. Mother Brain is a huge threat to the Galactic Federation because it is a brilliant military strategist and has unhindered access to the Galactic Federation's network database.

Also, not saying it is, but command could still be lower ranked than Ridley. Ridley's "death" could have forced a lower chain of command to order his revival and they also initiated the events of Prime 1.
 
C.T. said:
The federation experimented with the metroid saved by Samus if I'm not mistaken.
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That was a minor detail. The Federation took an interest in the X-parasites (the main antagonist in Metroid Fusion) after seeing how capable they were in multiplying and infecting. Samus, knowing the danger of the X-parasites after having experienced them herselves, was highly opposed to this plan and was afraid the X would spread through the entire universe when being harvested by the Feds. She was locked in a room by her ships computer (which had the mind of her former Federation CO Adam Malkovich uploaded on it) on Federation orders, but she escaped using the computers help and managed to crash the Biolab station on SR388 exterminating all the X parasites, and thereby directly violating a Federation order.
 
biodegradablebean said:
That was a minor detail. The Federation took an interest in the X-parasites (the main antagonist in Metroid Fusion) after seeing how capable they were in multiplying and infecting. Samus, knowing the danger of the X-parasites after having experienced them herselves, was highly opposed to this plan and was afraid the X would spread through the entire universe when being harvested by the Feds. She was locked in a room by her ships computer (which had the mind of her former Federation CO Adam Malkovich uploaded on it) on Federation orders, but she escaped using the computers help and managed to crash the Biolab station on SR388 exterminating all the X parasites, and thereby directly violating a Federation order.
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thx. I knew about the x parasite but didn't grasp the federation locked her up because she wasn't cooperating. I completed fusion but didn't grasp that part.
 
Im not really up to date on this, but i really literally, adored Metroid Prime 1, will i love this?

Reasons why i loved Prime 1

=music
=atmosphere
=giant world
=atmosphere
=music
 
JJConrad said:
Is this hyper mode
the same hyper in Super Metroid and does that mean that Samus is still "corrupted" at the end of the game?
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No. Hyper Mode in Super Metroid is a result of the hatchling Metroid fusing with Samus, and in effect, granting her a beam capable of bitch slapping the fuck out of Mother Brain.
 
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