daclynk
Member
Uncompressed Prime 4 trailer is available, 696MB: https://assets.nintendo.com/video/upload/Nintendo Direct/2025/voPNXhhQvrtL/fkCXRmtUQPbQ/spotlight-02.mp4
Link comes courtesy of someone going by "Foulowe59" on Twitter
Link comes courtesy of someone going by "Foulowe59" on Twitter
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Well, that’s exactly my point, is that all signs seem to indicate they just are holding off on the release date until the switch 2 direct is over, So that’s why we got this odd 2025 window, even though that’s what they said last June. The boxart is final and was shown afterwards in the press release, even though box art usually doesn’t come until the game is only a couple months out. I think literally the reason they’re not announcing it for May or June is because the switch 2 direct hasn’t happened yet. There are no other dated first party games on the horizon of any consequence. (and yesterday’s showing didn’t solve that, notably) so that also makes me think as well that this is the one for summer. Speaking only of switch 1, of course.
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I think people are just misremembering how PS3 and 360 games actually looked. There was a big jump going from the PS2 era to the PS3, while the move to the PS4 was more refining and stabilizing things.
If they game was going for cell-shaded or some other artistic look, that would be fine. But from what was shown, it doesn't. The game has been in development for 8 years, with 6 years on the current iteration. Expectations are extremely high, but I don't believe it will be able to live up to them.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Looks like a significantly downgraded XONE game. Muddy textures, extremely simplified geometry, AO, shadows, effects, vegetation and all of this in absolutely atrocious resolution. I simply cannot imagine playing this on anything but a modern gaming PC at 4K.
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
Is it just me, or did the MP remasters look better than this? Really shocking for such an incredible developer with talent that has worked on games like Metroid Prime and Uncharted 1 and 2.
GrandlyBodacious
Member
Completely underwhelming.
Ok maybe you're right. I'm going to get on the 'Switch 2 soon to be released bandwagon' starting ..... now.
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
It's not the devs problem, it's Nintendo problem of the past 20 years since Wii was released.
We all have seen, read and heard how devs are complaining about Series S (justifiably so), but has anyone ever imagined what it's like for Nintendo devs? It's 10 times worse for them cuz they can't really make the game shine and show what they are really capable of, so they downgrade everything to shit. DF also likes to praise ports and even 1st party games for how good they look for a console they were made for, but did they ever think of devs who had to compromise a shit ton of their vision of the game, its visual aspects and how bad, frustrated and angry they are about it (cuz I'm sure they are anything but happy)?
Fuckin' hell man, thank fuck for PC, emulators and AI that can turn even ancient PS2 games into almost modern marvels, all of this is doing what nintendon't and never will, not the actual devs that simply can't do anything here.
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DarkStream
Member
Can’t wait to scan stone statues /s
Robb
Gold Member
Is this the trailer that was 'gonna blow everything else out of the water'?
Gameplay wise that looks stale as it could possibly be. The lack of creativity on show after a 15 year hiatus is damning imo.
I kinda like the art though, they've done a decent enough job considering the age of the tech it's running on.
Gameplay wise that looks stale as it could possibly be. The lack of creativity on show after a 15 year hiatus is damning imo.
I kinda like the art though, they've done a decent enough job considering the age of the tech it's running on.
This, but unironically.
I will scan every single object, and enjoy reading every single bit of information.
Arachnid
Member
Nah he's right IMO. It didn't feel like a Zelda game.
I still loved it just as much if not more than 95% of prior titles, but there's no doubt that it changed the formula a lot. It's like going from Silent Hill 2 to Shattered Memories. Still a great game, but really different from why I play the series.
Sadly I think most here would rather skip cutscenes, listen to spotify and rush through it complaining how it's not a proper shooter.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
what have they been doing all this time??
Ristifer
Member
Prime had me scanning doors and save stations, and I still enjoyed it. Bring on the statues.
HRK69
Member
Counting moneywhat have they been doing all this time??
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Man, I hope Nintendo gets out of early 2000s soon.
NeptuneCL
Member
Too much hate for this game, but the truth is the game looks amazing. Don't forget that is Switch, a console from 2017 with hardware of 2015. Maybe you think that's not an excuse, but it is. The game looks phenomenal and the art desing and level design is above graphics. Examples of that are too many to be acounted.
touchfuzzy
Gold Member
Everyone like, hmm this gameplay looks dated, like a straight remaster of Metroid Prime 1 wasn't one of the best games of 2023...
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
There's only so much you can do with a mobile chip and smartphone size battery you know...
Some of you are expecting way too much IMO.
Some of you are expecting way too much IMO.
Killer8
Member
This is maybe the single best example of how Youtube compression can butcher a game's visuals.
Looks great for the limited hardware it's running on and at a solid 60fps too.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
It's just LoZ: Fallout Edition.
I'd put BotW and TotK in their own timeline since it's either a reboot or a retelling of the Zelda Legend since so many factors are similar to how OoT pans out. Compared to other Zelda games I did not find the lore very interesting.
GrandlyBodacious
Member
It's not just the visuals people are complaining about.
The gameplay is nothing to write home about either. They showcased... opening doors...
Zannegan
Member
Honestly, this was the part that had me worried, not the graphics. If they don't also have smooth gameplay/combat implications (beyond steering energy blasts as if they were batarangs) it's going to be a huge missed opportunity all-round. Psychic shooters can be really cool from a gameplay perspective. Here's hoping Retro doesn't let us down.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Okay c’mon, that trailer was clearly aimed at people who have never really played a Prime game, which makes sense, since everyone who has played a Prime game will probably already be buying 4.
This is Retro Studios we’re talking about. They’ve literally never missed before. I have zero doubt that this game will be incredible.
This is Retro Studios we’re talking about. They’ve literally never missed before. I have zero doubt that this game will be incredible.
yeah, i don't think that part showed particularly well.
that said, this is the dev that flawlessly translated 2d metroidvania to 3d (arguably the most impressive 2d>3d transition ever imo), so i'm not super concerned.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Looks like there’s some potential evidence that Nintendo will have certain Switch 1 games have a forward-compatible “Switch 2 Edition” upgrade based off of some of the wording on their site. Hopefully this means that Prime 4 will get a Switch 2 glow-up, which would likely mean it’s a Switch 2 launch title. And that would make sense, since we still haven’t gotten a definitive date yet.
Synastry
Member
To be fair the switch 2 maybe in the same range of the OG PS4 that system that come out in 2013.
Mozza
Member
Those screens do look ptetty decent. Hoping the Switch 2 version looks pretty sweet.
VS
Muffdraul
Member
After releasing MP1 remaster two years ago, what a major dick move it would be to release MP4 without 2 and 3 first. I have a feeling that's what they're going to do, though.
Man, FUCK YOU, Nintendo! If you do that.
Zannegan
Member
If 2&3 looked as good as 1, they may not have fancied the comparison.
Assuming Prime 4 gets a Switch 2 version, maybe the 2 and 3 ports will be Switch 2 exclusives. That'd be a fun thread to read. XD
Zannegan
Member
Man, memory/rose tinted glasses does a lot for old gen releases. I remember Uncharted and Killzone looking WAY better than that.
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EDIT: Sorry for the double-post.
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UltimaKilo
Gold Member
I said that the Metroid Prime remake looked better than this. That is defiantly the dev, if this holds up at launch.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
And I agree, it does look better. The issue here is that Prime 4 has much better and more detailed vistas with volumetric fog, lighting and probably has bigger levels and scope overall with much more stuff in them.
Don't forget, Prime 1 had simple level design, much less complex geometry, very simple if none existent vistas which weren't even modeled in full 3D, very simple lighting system, very little foliage and the first Switch could easily handle it at 1080p 60. So upgrading its visuals to the level it was done in the remastered version is probably within the first Switch budget and not that demanding, cuz the original game is so old.
It got me thinkin', how do we know that they showed the Switch 2 version? I mean, I've zero faith in Nintendo when it comes to releasing better consoles, but... I can see the first Switch running the game in such a bad state, but surely the new one can do better? So yeah, I don't think we're looking at the Switch 2 version here, let's wait.
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SomeNorseGuy
Member
The 3D Metroid games are a shameful blind-spot in my gaming experiences. I was never convinced that the transformation to the third dimension added anything to the series.
But seeing how excited people are for this one I might give the remake of the first one a spin.
But seeing how excited people are for this one I might give the remake of the first one a spin.
Shaki12345
Gold Member
You have absolutely no understanding of graphics. Utterly clueless.
Shaki12345
Gold Member
You guys don't deserve a new Metroid. Please go back to playing Minecraft so the real gamers can enjoy a game for grownups.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I probably understand it much better than you. What was wrong about my statement? A game with more expansive and detailed environments will require more memory, thus leaving less memory for textures (for example).
Shaki12345
Gold Member
The only thing you apparently understand about graphics is how to write the word itself. My God.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Metroid prime 1 remaster was one of the best looking game on Switch imo, MP4 easily takes that crown its obvious.
Power Pro
Member
In motion, and during gameplay, I think games from that era can still look really good. You really can't judge a game based solely on screenshots, because you aren't examining every little detail in the heat of the action.