LordOcidax
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Again, the character is clearly designed to be hated… And looks like is working amazingly well.I have a really bad feeling about this.
Metroid Prime 4: Beyond, overview trailer (Switch 2)
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
LordOcidax
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SupaComputa
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Sorry I was wrong when I said they aren't hiding any great surprises after being unimpressed by everything shown. They've added Natalya.
you mean every single one of these MP3s is designed to be hated because F them all
Mister Wolf
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He is Retro's judgement of the playerbase.
LordOcidax
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I mean the dialogue like the woman wanting to be buddies after this and then the man about his family shut up
LordOcidax
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Amazing that you know the whole story of a character by reading a single line of dialogue… Impressive.
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it's in the trailer the man was talking about his family and the woman wanted to be buddy after this
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Only net positive with the focus of teamwork is a Galactic Federation bonus campaign or a Federation Force mode. The Mecha robots could easily be similar to the Mech's Troopers control in Federation Force. Although I'd rather be piloting those large mecha in the intro.
R rkofan87 Each Trooper has their own motivations for surviving. Family, Retirement/Family/Vacation, getting the Band together(friends?) and don't care much for the Engineer. I'd prefer Isolation or have a more serious tone. Sylux hates the Federation so he will probably destroy them all. Given we only have footage of the goofy Engineer...who seems to be a pretty bad one I'd hold off on mocking the rest.
R rkofan87 Each Trooper has their own motivations for surviving. Family, Retirement/Family/Vacation, getting the Band together(friends?) and don't care much for the Engineer. I'd prefer Isolation or have a more serious tone. Sylux hates the Federation so he will probably destroy them all. Given we only have footage of the goofy Engineer...who seems to be a pretty bad one I'd hold off on mocking the rest.
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Generic
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Curious to see how Samus will look.If you mean NPCs, the others designs are nothing like that…
she'll probably never take her helmet off
LordOcidax
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The face rendering is really well done, i think they are not going to miss the opportunity to show their work this time.
MagiusNecros
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She as far as I can tell has a newer younger voice when she takes damage. Kind of curious who it is.
I understand that but my head Cannon Samus would not give a shit about any of these folks she's a solo Bounty Hunter not some team leader.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
If it's any consolation we can't see through Samus's Visor so all I have is Samus giving a deadpan stare which has comedic value.
f they do you'll probably only get it you played on the very hard like on the NES
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LordOcidax
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Is going to be a solo bounty hunter probably 99% of the game…
Mister Wolf
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If you mean NPCs, the others designs are nothing like that…
Makes me appreciate how tall she is versus a regular human. That Raven Beak DNA turned her out. Also, the new suit is marvelous.
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MacReady13
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Wholeheartedly agree. Easily my most anticipated game of the year. LOVE Metroid and I'm dying for this on Switch 2.
I have her rolling her eyes in a shut up and just do your job.
Mister Wolf
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Why wouldn't she give a shit about the federation when she opted to serve in its military and still takes contract work from them. She probably knows a lot of people personally, if they weren't KIA.
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MagiusNecros
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Robb
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We should still get to see glimpses of it a lot throughout assuming they keep the reflection effect of the visor when you're under attack.
ChorizoPicozo
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Looks like Halo Infintie
Donkusei
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Looks like Metroid Prime
DreamcastSkies
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Remember how Twilight Princess had that team that Link would interact with along his journey? The federation trooper inclusion here reminds me of that. I'm really open-minded and optimistic to this.
LavitzSlambert
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Looks awesome! Still not interested in the motorcycle and empty Hyrule Field traversal, and your companions, hopefully it does not comprise too much of the game. This confirms what we were expecting though, it's more Metroid Prime - which is a great thing! Definitely some modern conveniences implemented, and the upgrades look fun. Lore and scanning still a thing!
I am curious if there is some kind of spoiler related to the Sylux amiibo unlock, or else why block the release until the game's street date, yet allow the Samus/Vi-o-la amiibo to be sold before?
I am curious if there is some kind of spoiler related to the Sylux amiibo unlock, or else why block the release until the game's street date, yet allow the Samus/Vi-o-la amiibo to be sold before?
Come On Tars
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Comandr
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Retro: *introduces a bunch of side characters that talk about their families*
Samus: *only family is dead adoptive parents and dead adopted
Something I've noticed in modern games is making sure the player always has some sort of side kick or tag-along. It started with Navi, King of Red Lions, Ghost, Atreus, Claptrap, etc. Developers, or perhaps publishers, are so afraid of letting the player get lost and god forbid have their own adventure without someone constantly chatting at them about what to do next or where to go. IIRC Prime 1 even did this with subtle hints if you took too long to make any progress, but it was very unobtrusive. I worry that we are going to be more Other M than Prime with the catalogue of characters that will be thrown at us.
Average time to beat a Prime game is around 10-15 hours or so, and with the number of characters we've seen and the seeming importance of them, I have a feeling we will almost always have some companion or another during the game. I just wish Nintendo had the balls to go back to what made Metroid 1, 2, and Super so special. Lonely. Dark. Oppressive. It was you versus the world, and it felt fucking amazing when you beat the odds and did it in record time.
But yeah, no, I hope Samus can finally learn the power of friendship and working together and our real family isn't decided by blood but by the people that stand by us.
Still day 1 tho.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Navi was the best IMO as it was limited to just a couple callouts of "Hey listen", "Hey", "Watch Out", "Hello" and generally was where it made sense and wasn't intrusive.
Mackenzie on the other hand makes it so jarring to turn Metroid into Anti-Metroid since it's about being Isolated from everything else and will make it hard to enjoy the Atmosphere with an eccentric reacting to everything and annoying you over the radio.
Jsisto
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I mean that's kind of the problem for a lot of us. We don't want to know their story. We don't care. That's not why we're playing the game.
Woopah
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There's nothing like that in the game.
That's fair, some of the Dread bosses did give me a Hollowknight vibe.
They were asking how Prime games compared to Hollowknight/Ori.
LordOcidax
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We? I don't have any issue with that… And the tutorial NPC is like that for obvious reasons… If the game doesn't have any talking character then the discussion probably is going be… Prime 4 doesn't have voice acting, oh no Nintendo is in the past with their games.
RomanceDawn
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After watching a a few scenes with that Myles guy, I see this as another attempt at Retro and Nintendo trying to make the series more cinematic. Simply to draw in more of an audience. I don't blame them and I've been all for it since Prime 3.
Tonally though the dialogue from Myles sounds like it really came right out of the MCU. Which I dont necessarily dislike, it has its place in those films. These characters remind me that there is supposed to be a whole universe of people in the lore of Metroid that interact and speak with one another and probably as mundanely as real life people. Seeing that interaction with Samus is the weird part but then again I take the OG comic as Metroid-gospel and there are few things there that wouldn't be out of place with this Myles dude.
I guess I'm already warming up to it. However, I don't want this guy or the others interrupting gameplay or spoiling things in obnoxious ways throughout the adventure.
Tonally though the dialogue from Myles sounds like it really came right out of the MCU. Which I dont necessarily dislike, it has its place in those films. These characters remind me that there is supposed to be a whole universe of people in the lore of Metroid that interact and speak with one another and probably as mundanely as real life people. Seeing that interaction with Samus is the weird part but then again I take the OG comic as Metroid-gospel and there are few things there that wouldn't be out of place with this Myles dude.
I guess I'm already warming up to it. However, I don't want this guy or the others interrupting gameplay or spoiling things in obnoxious ways throughout the adventure.
Jsisto
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Brother I mean this with all due respect, I don't know your history with the series….but no serious fan of the prime games would have that complaint. This isn't Pokémon. The strength of the series is the isolation and story told gradually through the environment and scanning things. And obviously the amazing gameplay. I don't give a fuck why this dude doesn't like sitting next to Phil in the office.We? I don't have any issue with that… And the tutorial NPC is like that for obvious reasons… If the game doesn't have any talking character then the discussion probably is going be… Prime 4 doesn't have voice acting, oh no Nintendo is in the past with their games.
March Climber
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A lot of people here are disliking the secondary NPCs and I directly blame these two games: Other M and Federation Force.
Those games poisoned the well.
Federation Force should have been a higher budget "Republic Commando" game of the Metroid franchise. Make the player slowly care more and more about this squadron who is simply trying to survive and fulfill a mission, while being unsure if they will make it out alive because at the end of the day they're just grunts.
Then you would use that goodwill to inject one or multiple of these guys into Prime 4, and make the player actually care about them "making it home alive" or "retiring after this mission".
This isn't a deal breaker but it does feel like wasted potential.
Those games poisoned the well.
Federation Force should have been a higher budget "Republic Commando" game of the Metroid franchise. Make the player slowly care more and more about this squadron who is simply trying to survive and fulfill a mission, while being unsure if they will make it out alive because at the end of the day they're just grunts.
Then you would use that goodwill to inject one or multiple of these guys into Prime 4, and make the player actually care about them "making it home alive" or "retiring after this mission".
This isn't a deal breaker but it does feel like wasted potential.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
LOVED Republic Commando.
RAIDEN1
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And with the sad state of gaming today, we'll never get a sequel, unless the fans somehow made an unofficial one...
LordOcidax
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All of that is intact in this game…
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TerribleAtThisGame
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For once, being a New Yorker came in handy
Studios layoffs left and right, games take ages to develop and people are still crying for ultra realistic graphics. Game looks great, more than good enough. If the majority of GAF had it's way the game would lose money and the developers would be laid off.
Gameplay and art style any day of the week. Fantastic way to end the year for the Switch 2.
Gameplay and art style any day of the week. Fantastic way to end the year for the Switch 2.
