MGS: Ground Zeroes trailer in "ENGLISH" UP!
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Thanks guys.
I'd like to know this as well. I'm the "subs over dubs" kind of guy with anime, and this definitely is the same way.
Vire
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I'm not even talking about Kiefer, Skull Face has some of the worst voice acting I've ever heard in a big budget video game.
It's that bad.
Mr.Marston
Member
The voice acting is terrible. This is what he ditched Hayter for?
EmCeeGramr
Member
I'm not comparing it to David at all. Kiefer really sounds bored and stiff.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Just get the Metal Gear Solid Legacy Collection. It includes MGS, MGS2HD, MGS3HD, MGS4, MGS Peace Walker HD, as well as the original Metal Gear + Metal Gear 2 if you want to go old-school. Make sure you play the games in order because there's a lot of references you may otherwise miss.
On-topic: Hype levels are dropping considerably and I was so hyped for this after the E3 trailer too.
MeBecomingI
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Star power and motion capture I guess.
The Auxiliary
Member
I was solidly in the "Hey! Give the new guy a chance!" "He sounds pretty decent in the E3 trailer!" camps and was excited to hear what Big Boss' new voice was gonna sound like.
But man, after that, I don't know... I think I'd rather have Hayter in, hamming and graveling it up than have someone who sounds like he's doing a cold read off a script he's not interested in. I'm sad to say this, but it really did kind of sound like a "phone-in" to me...
But man, after that, I don't know... I think I'd rather have Hayter in, hamming and graveling it up than have someone who sounds like he's doing a cold read off a script he's not interested in. I'm sad to say this, but it really did kind of sound like a "phone-in" to me...
I think he sounded alright in the E3 videos. Sounds off point here.
Its not that, I was extremely excited for Sutherland playing Big Boss. It just isn't him, it's the entire voice acting/direction in general. There isn't a good flow or pacing with dialog, it feels spun out at whim.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Wow, I was ready to welcome Kiefer because I was getting tired of how Hayter's Snake voice had become a parody of himself and I thought he delivered that "Kaz, immolreddy a demun" line pretty damn well but this whole thing is just some freaky friday shit. I don't think I like it at all. Skull face sounded weird as hell too. Kiefer needed a bit more gruff, the voice was too mellow.
Kaz was the only thing keeping it together if you ask me.
Kaz was the only thing keeping it together if you ask me.
GillianSeed79
Member
Wow that's some truly atrocious voice acting...
They should just hire Quinton Flynn and have him do his horrible Jack the Ripper/Bela Leguosi impersonation from Metal Gear Rising the whole game. Also, is anyone else having a really hard time distinguishing Miller's voice form Sutherland's? Christ that VA is terrible. It's 2013 and Konami still can't afford to hire a decent voice director.
SentientStone
Member
Skull Face I didn't like at all, sounded too normal for that character.
Kiefer as Snake I have no comment; I think I can live with it, especially assuming that Hayter comes back later as Solid Snake to take out BB in future games.
Kiefer as Snake I have no comment; I think I can live with it, especially assuming that Hayter comes back later as Solid Snake to take out BB in future games.
Idk, Troy Baker sounds awesome as Ocelot and we've heard less of him.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Sutherland has ten or so lines in this trailer. All equally terribad.
Gameplay didn't look so great I thought, especially the daytime. I think they are demoing this on a PC with unknown specs, that's supposed to be a close match to current consoles.
That line delivery was simply awful. I can't say that I'm hyped for this. Some people like to downplay the VA, but for me hayter is snake. It's like revisiting old friends. Now, everyone's on board except him. I could understand if it was a major cast overhaul but it ain't. And Sutherland seems to phone in his lines.
The new gameplay video left me a little confused, but i'll wait for more footage to judge the game mechanically.
Seems like kojima really had some beef with hayter, but the joke's on him, since many people will be put off by this move and won't buy the game. And even if the game is a smash hit, and he ever wants to return to Big Boss, he's gonna have to pay Kiefer even more $$$, a lot more than we would have to pay hayter. What if the guy doesn't even want to do a sequel? This VA change was the dumbest of moves in so many ways.
/rant
The new gameplay video left me a little confused, but i'll wait for more footage to judge the game mechanically.
Seems like kojima really had some beef with hayter, but the joke's on him, since many people will be put off by this move and won't buy the game. And even if the game is a smash hit, and he ever wants to return to Big Boss, he's gonna have to pay Kiefer even more $$$, a lot more than we would have to pay hayter. What if the guy doesn't even want to do a sequel? This VA change was the dumbest of moves in so many ways.
/rant
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
One line? Dude Kiefer speaks throughout the whole trailer.
EmCeeGramr
Member
He spoke with Kaz for for a couple minutes during the trailer.
Hayter continuing to the same ole gravelly voice, along with awkward grunts wouldn't change a thing. Hayter phoning in Big Boss is an issue, Sutherland and plenty of other people not getting decent voice direction is another.
Both of these problems fall on the same people.
polyh3dron
Banned
KEPTYOUWAITINGHAAAAHHHHH
The delivery of that line just made me fear Kiefer's performance in this.
The delivery of that line just made me fear Kiefer's performance in this.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
That was horrible, it doesn't sound like snake or big boss at all.
I still believe that David is somehow involved. The tweets and interviews have been too 'in your face'. He tries to really push the "I'm not involved
BELIEVE!!
:"(
As Solid Snake probably but Big Boss is Kiefer now. Accept it.
Riposte
Member
I made this joke in a previous thread. Kickstarter to get Hayter in a studio, then find a way to take those audio files and replace the Kiefer ones on the PC version. I believe this would be technically legal too lol.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Sorry, I give zero fucks.
That voice for Snake is a deal breaker.
That voice for Snake is a deal breaker.
Where/when was this established? I don't doubt you; I just don't recall this ever being made concrete.
Yep sounds like they definitely fucked up with Keifer. I'm not even wild about Hayter but good fucking god is Keifer phoning it in.
I would rather had Troy Baker take a god damn shot at it.
Keifer is mumbling through half the damn trailer. It's not exactly a step up.
I would rather had Troy Baker take a god damn shot at it.
Keifer is mumbling through half the damn trailer. It's not exactly a step up.
That would be like putting a band aid on Skull Face.
JasoNsider
Member
The voice acting at the beginning talking to the kid in the cage was so poor I could barely believe this is real. I don't know if it's the voice actor's fault, the voice director's fault or what, but this is just not matching the tone/detail of the visuals. Sounds so incredibly silly and immediately brought me out of it.
Even if MGS was always super silly voice acting, now that the visuals and sound are hyper-real stuff it makes it stand out like a sore thumb.
Even if MGS was always super silly voice acting, now that the visuals and sound are hyper-real stuff it makes it stand out like a sore thumb.
BadAss2961
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This is what you all get for complaining about Hayter.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Troy is already doing Ocelot.
Live Free or Die
Banned
People still complain about the voice? get over it people. Hayter isn't coming back.
WarMacheen
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illmatic22
Banned
#TeamHayter for life.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
I was ready to at least give Sutherland a chance.... but that voice, it doesn't work, it's just... wrong. It's not even just that it doesn't fit, it's the fact it's just not very well performed at all. "Kept you waiting, huh?" is a bit of an inconic line and it's just.... ugh here.
The Omega Man
Member
Good points and I agree, plus Kiefer looks like he is just reading the script, no emotion or acting whatsoever, I never opposed the change of voice work but after this, I am not liking it so far.
So let me get this straight, for some of you the only problem is Sutherland, not the actual context and flow of dialog? Voice acting isn't just one take and that's a rap, Kojima or whomever gave Sutherland info on what they want out of him. He complied and the director/Kojima liked what he gave.
Do some of you think Sutherland did whatever he wanted and then left? Skull Face sounds like a villain from a terrible late 80's anime dub. It was a creative decision for Sutherland and others to give the performances they give. It's not like Kojima Productions is enslaved by the Sutherland family.
If he genuinely did that, it's the voice directors's fault and anyone else involved that they didn't badger him to do better.
Do some of you think Sutherland did whatever he wanted and then left? Skull Face sounds like a villain from a terrible late 80's anime dub. It was a creative decision for Sutherland and others to give the performances they give. It's not like Kojima Productions is enslaved by the Sutherland family.
If he genuinely did that, it's the voice directors's fault and anyone else involved that they didn't badger him to do better.
TheChillyAcademic
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I can understand that maybe they didn't want Skullface to have the "typical" evil villain voice but...MGS is a series known for its interesting, well written, and well acted antagonists. Skullface's voice LITERALLY could have been coming out of one of the generic soldiers and you never be able to tell.