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Michael Dunn found guilty in "loud music" murder trial

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Camp Lo

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/justice/michael-dunn-loud-music-verdict/index.html

Jacksonville, Florida (CNN) -- Jurors found Michael Dunn guilty of first-degree murder Wednesday in the 2012 shooting death 17-year-old Jordan Davis.
Dunn was charged with murder after shooting into an SUV full of teenagers following a squabble over the music emanating from the teens' vehicle.
Dunn has said he shot at the vehicle because he thought Davis had a weapon and feared for his life, but the prosecution has alleged Dunn was the aggressor and pointed out he kept firing even after the teens fled.

Three of the 10 shots that Dunn fired struck Davis, one of them cutting through his liver, a lung and his aorta.
Investigators say Davis never had a weapon, nor was one found in the teens' SUV or the surrounding area.
A jury found Dunn guilty of four charges in February, commanding at least 60 years in prison for the 47-year-old, but the jury was hung on the murder charge related to Davis' November 2012 death.
Jurors began deliberating on the new charges just before 10 a.m. ET on Wednesday, after Judge Russell Healey dismissed two of the three alternates and provided instructions for the charges jurors were to consider.
The first charge to consider, Healey said, was first-degree murder, which would require that Dunn premeditated killing Davis.
If the jury didn't feel the state proved first-degree murder, it was instructed to move on to second-degree, which would mean Dunn killed Davis via a criminal or depraved act.
The third charge was manslaughter, which would require a finding that Dunn unlawfully caused Davis' death.
Killing Davis was lawful, Healey told the jury, if Dunn acted in the heat of passion or if he unintentionally caused Davis' death. The jury could also find Dunn not guilty if he was in danger, acted in self-defense and exacted a justifiable use of force, the judge instructed.
Dunn was convicted in February on one count of shooting into a vehicle and three counts of attempted second-degree murder -- one each for Davis' friends, Leland Brunson, Tommie Stornes and Tevin Thompson, who were in the Dodge Durango with Davis that day.
The Satellite Beach, Florida, man hasn't been sentenced on those charges, but prosecutor Eric Wolfson said at the time of the conviction that each attempted second-degree murder charge carries a minimum sentence of at least 20 years. There's also a 15-year sentence possible on the conviction for shooting at the teenager's vehicle, Wolfson said.

Not sure if old but excellent news nonetheless

Key points for those who forgot about the case

  1. Michael Dunn found guilty of murder in 2012 shooting death of Jordan Davis, 17
  2. Dunn killed Davis after an argument over loud music coming from Davis' friend's SUV
  3. 4 counts on which Dunn was convicted in February command at least 60 years in prison
  4. 47-year-old claimed he fired 10 shots in self-defense; prosecutors called Dunn aggressor
 
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spookyfish

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Thank goodness. I believe in the right to both keep and to bear, but damn: Shooting into a car without regard for human safety because "I felt scared of his music" means you should go to jail, no matter who you are or who the victim is.

Rot in jail, @$$hole.
 

JC Lately

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I'm just wating for Dunn Defense Force posts to show up in this thread. Been kinda bummed this week and could use a laugh.
 
Thank goodness. I believe in the right to both keep and to bear, but damn: Shooting into a car without regard for human safety because "I felt scared of his music" means you should go to jail, no matter who you are or who the victim is.

Rot in jail, @$$hole.

Definitely. Being able to defend yourself when you have a reasonable expectation of imminent harm means nothing if we as a society have no regard for the "reasonable" part.
 

Onemic

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The guy thought he was in fear for his life though and thought he saw a weapon. I mean, he should be guilty of manslaughter but 1st degree is a bit much. What if there actually was a shotgun in the car? The kids not backing down with turning down their music didnt help things either.
 
The guy thought he was in fear for his life though and thought he saw a weapon. I mean, he should be guilty of manslaughter but 1st degree is a bit much. What if there actually was a shotgun in the car? The kids not backing down with turning down their music didnt help things either.

Please let no one fall for this.

Well commence laughing.

Goddammit, it begins.
 

Ferrio

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I'm just wating for Dunn Defense Force posts to show up in this thread. Been kinda bummed this week and could use a laugh.

The guy thought he was in fear for his life though and thought he saw a weapon. I mean, he should be guilty of manslaughter but 1st degree is a bit much. What if there actually was a shotgun in the car? The kids not backing down with turning down their music didnt help things either.


Well commence laughing.
 
The guy thought he was in fear for his life though and thought he saw a weapon. I mean, he should be guilty of manslaughter but 1st degree is a bit much. What if there actually was a shotgun in the car? The kids not backing down with turning down their music didnt help things either.

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Cat

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Good. The right decision was made. I'm sorry the parents can't get their boy back, but I'm glad a jury recognized the wrongdoing.
 
The guy thought he was in fear for his life though and thought he saw a weapon. I mean, he should be guilty of manslaughter but 1st degree is a bit much. What if there actually was a shotgun in the car? The kids not backing down with turning down their music didnt help things either.

Dang this one is pretty good.
 

mckmas8808

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The guy thought he was in fear for his life though and thought he saw a weapon. I mean, he should be guilty of manslaughter but 1st degree is a bit much. What if there actually was a shotgun in the car? The kids not backing down with turning down their music didnt help things either.

Almost had me.
 
couple gems from the original thread:


I don't like how anytime a white person kills a black person it is automatically racist, with those roles reversed racism is never brought up! I hear a lot more racist terms being thrown around when it is actually black on white in a street altercation. I am not saying any of the murders are right, but stop calling them racist. With the population the way it is, if you were going to kill someone there is a good 40% chance the person will be black. In my city there is around a 51% chance you would be killing an hispanic. I am not saying you are killing them because of their race, but the population of the races living there, and the chance you kill one of any race

I didn't actually read the story, those can be slanted a lot of ways. My point isn't even in this case, just scrolling down and seeing all of the racism messages.

Just like when I scroll down in a news story and see 100 posts saying "please dont be black"
this is my "please dont be white on black"

How is it that time and time again people completely dismiss the chain of events when things like this happen.

He went to the car to ask the kids to turn down their music. It resulted in the two getting into an argument. THEN he felt threatened and fired. The way you describe it, ignores the limited facts we know about the case. Nothing in that story suggests he felt threatened by blacks in an SUV playing loud music. Nothings suggests he walked to the car with the intention to kill anyone. Do you honestly think this asshole threw away his life just because he hated black people so much? I will also say that this probably has more to do with young urban culture than the man's skin color. But, it's pretty much impossible for some people to make that distinction. In the end though, until we know more details about what happened everyone is just talking out of their ass.

As far as why you never hear stories about white people getting killed, there was one today where two were killed in cold blood. There was a bears fan who had his throat slit earlier this year, in Florida, just for talking to a mans wife. But mostly it's because no one here has an agenda to push that narrative and make posts about them.

It's definitely a disproportionate response. But you take your chances when you show a complete disregard for everyone else. It's a passive equivalent to just being a total dick to everyone you meet. Eventually you're going to run into someone disgruntled who's going to flip out.
 
The guy thought he was in fear for his life though and thought he saw a weapon. I mean, he should be guilty of manslaughter but 1st degree is a bit much. What if there actually was a shotgun in the car? The kids not backing down with turning down their music didnt help things either.

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OT: Great outcome..great that his family got justice. Well deserved..
 
What was he guilty of? I don't know anything about this story.
*checks*
Okay so the fact that this is news is disturbing to me. Is everyone just shooting people now?
And more importantly, is it noteworthy that this obvious murderer was found to have murdered the guy that he obviously murdered?
*remembers Zimmerman*
Goddamnit.
 
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