Royce McCutcheon
Junior Member
She's not a very good actor, but that doesn't give her point any less merit.
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Michelle Rodriguez: better quality + quantity for Fast 9 female characters or I quit
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What they did with Elena's character in 8 was so awful that it doesn't really matter how cool or badass Letty or Cipher are, it gives F&F an F for female representation.
F&F has never been *that* great at female representation, but it's gotten worse over the years. For a series that enjoys a reputation for ethnic diversity, it's time to step up to the plate on having more cool, badass, well-written female characters as well.
F&F has never been *that* great at female representation, but it's gotten worse over the years. For a series that enjoys a reputation for ethnic diversity, it's time to step up to the plate on having more cool, badass, well-written female characters as well.
Glass Rebel
Member
Good. The women in these movies always seem like afterthoughts and it's good to see her take a stance.
Nobody in the main cast is a good actor so why even mention it?
Nobody in the main cast is a good actor so why even mention it?
Exactly.
Triggerhappytel
Member
HELEN MIRREN HAS JOINED THE FAST & FURIOUS SERIES?!
Shit. I really need to watch Fast 8.
Shit. I really need to watch Fast 8.
KarneeKarnay
Member
I've always liked Rodriguez, not just as an actress, but someone who puts up.
She is very right. I'm not sure the team need more characters, the roster is pretty big right now. It could use its female characters much better.
She is very right. I'm not sure the team need more characters, the roster is pretty big right now. It could use its female characters much better.
serenewarfare
Banned
I feel like bringing Gal back would be a stretch in logic even by F&F standards, which is saying a whole hell of a lot.
Plus she'd probably cost way more now than she did previously.
Plus she'd probably cost way more now than she did previously.
The movies are fun as hell, but it's unquestionably some crass male-gazey shit with little of anything for its named female characters, atleast in comparison to the male cast.
Just shrugging it off and going "OH WELL, YOU'RE OUT" or saying she gets recast is like willfully ignoring the problem.
Just shrugging it off and going "OH WELL, YOU'RE OUT" or saying she gets recast is like willfully ignoring the problem.
Poor GRIMES
Banned
Who cares?
Are you up in arms whenever The Rock or Vin Diesel get any lines? Neither are powerhouse actors. This belief that women gotta be FUCKING AMAZING AND BEYOND SKILLED at everything to even have a CHANCE to speak in a role is stupid. Charlize Theron was up there and she barely had shit to do bruh
This franchise's lead actors were Paul Walker and Vin Deasel. Why are we now putting standards for acting quality when it comes to the female cast?
Monocle
Member
Charlize Theron's Cipher was the most charismatic and capable female character in the franchise if we're honest. I'd watch a spinoff about her early career in a heartbeat.
Yeah, it's not just a lack of well developed female characters that's the problem. This series loooooooves its salacious ass shots.
KaiserBecks
Member
What an odd realization. I can't recall in how many of these films she actually participated (as I find them utterly forgettable), but it seems so weird to say "Yeah, if this doesn't change in No 9, I'm out!". I do agree with her point though. Better late than never I guess.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
I'm all for this, just don't pull a Ghostbusters
PhantomZone
Member
I'll say the same quote she used during her race wars drag race in the original.......
Seeeeéee yaaaaaaaaaa
Miles Quaritch
Member
Yeah, Cipher had nothing to do in 8. She literally just sat in Luda's car as eye candy for most of the movie and the ending with her character was a joke.
What does this mean "pull a Ghostbusters"?
Tetsujin_MK
Member
I think she's barely had any lines to anyone but Vin Diesel.
I remember in the fourth one Brian was responsible for putting her in that undercover job that got her "killed" or whatever and at one point Brian says "She was my friend too, Dom" or something like that and I was like...was she really?
I went through the first movie in my head and couldn't think of a single time her and Paul Walker shared any on-screen dialogue whatsoever.
I'm not even sure if they had any dialogue in the following movies either.
FutureLarking
Member
Entirely female cast version? I can't see a problem with that though, there's plenty of good actress' that could make a kick-ass team... perhaps poor writing?
Ruin a franchise.
Fast 6 had Giselle (Gal Gadot) and Riley (Gina Carano) have a nice buddy moment. So its unfair to say that the series has never done it. In saying that they have a great core cast full of some excelent female characters so its wierd that they haven't had more to do.
This is especially true since the quality of the Fast franchise is in direct corelation to how much Mia (Jordanna Brewster) appears in a film
This is especially true since the quality of the Fast franchise is in direct corelation to how much Mia (Jordanna Brewster) appears in a film
MindCollizion
Member
Are you kidding me?Wait 'til you find out what happened to Dom's Brazilian girlfriend Elena in Fast 8:
They retcon it so that Dom knocked her up while they were together, and she had the baby but never told him about it (I guess because being a single mother is so much fun?). Then Charlize Theron kidnaps her and the baby to get leverage over Dom to do her evil deeds, and when Dom doesn't obey she shoots Elena in the head. They literally used the character to give Dom a a baby without having to have Michelle Rodriguez be pregnant for a whole movie, then killed her off when they were done
Royce McCutcheon
Junior Member
If any of the other talentless actors make demands I'll bring that up too.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
There's no way they're gonna drop the ass shots or start doing man ass shots.
I think she should just leave tbh.
I think she should just leave tbh.
Miles Quaritch
Member
That's what really happens. She didn't tell Dom because he was back with Letty.
Stupidest shit I've seen.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
She was in a movie last year where she had to put on a prosthetic penis and pretend to be a man who was forced to have a sex change and become a woman.
I mean... I know you gotta eat, but if you're all about good roles for women, I don't know what you're thinking.
I mean... I know you gotta eat, but if you're all about good roles for women, I don't know what you're thinking.
Messofanego
Banned
I'd love there to be a more feminist Fast and Furious film, where the female characters are given as much agency and character interactions with each other as the male ones do already. It's pretty easy, too, considering how many female characters there are now in the franchise. Just need better writers, like maybe having a female writer for the first time?
Gal Gadot
Nathalie Emmanuel
Michelle Rodriguez
Jordana Brewster
Elsa Pataky
Gina Carano
Sarah Yan Li
Ronda Rousey
Gal Gadot
Nathalie Emmanuel
Michelle Rodriguez
Jordana Brewster
Elsa Pataky
Gina Carano
Sarah Yan Li
Ronda Rousey
The "you guys don't even know my name" joke felt almost meta as no one in the audience does either.
Fast 6 also had that great subway fight scene between Rodriguez and Carano.
MisterFalcon
Member
In Fast Five she was guiding the team by radio through Rio when they were stealing the safe. I mainly remember it because she was doing an accent for the streetnames which seemed a little strange since Dom or Brian one would care if they were told to take Rua Fonseca or Reuaa Foannsjieka.
Letty (Michelle Rodriguez) wasn't in Fast 5. The Voice on the radio was Mia (Jordanna Brewster)
CaviarMeths
Member
I wonder if she's just sick of being typecast as Tough Latina Chick in every movie she's done for the last 20 years and wants someone to give her a script that gives her something new to do.
Glass Rebel
Member
Latinos in general don't have it easy in Hollywood
Roof Hood Hector.
CaviarMeths
Member
Latinos in general don't have it easy in Hollywood
Wow. Is this like a running inside joke that his character is always named Hector? I want to believe...
"el negro Hector" wat
Latinos in general don't have it easy in Hollywood
My head canon is that all those Hectors are the same character
MikeHattsu
Member
It's fake
it's interesting (and good) to see her having a more thoughtful and socially aware stance on her work through the years, because she truly didn't give a shit before.
2010:
Oh baby, I was typecast the minute I did a film called, Girlfight years ago. That has nothing to do with anything, it just to do with you allow yourself to be typecast. If I decided I didnt want to be typecast tomorrow Id just go do an indie film where I play some poor girl who goes through some excruciating experience and win myself an award for crying or being raped [breaks into laughter] or playing someone with mental illness. But at the end of the day Im not in it for the acting. If I were in it for the acting then I would be worried about people not giving me the opportunity to express my vast array of emotions on the screen.
I could give two shits. I only wanna be someone or I respect or someone that I consider interesting or fun. Im here to entertain people and make a statement about female empowerment and strength and thats what Ive done for the last 10 years, and people can call it typecast, but I pigeonholed myself and I put myself in that box for saying no to everything else that came on my plate. Saying no to the girlfriend, saying no to the girl that gets captured, no to this, no to that. and eventually I just got left with the strong chick thats always being killed and theres nothing wrong with that.
http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2010/0...esponds-to-being-typecast-as-the-tough-chick/
2015:
"Because of this whole 'minorities in Hollywood' thing ... it's so stupid," said the 36-year-old actress, whose mother is from the Dominican Republic and father is Puerto Rican. "Stop stealing all the white people's superheroes. Make up your own."
Rodriguez was also asked about a reported Internet rumor that she may appear in Warner Bros.' new Green Lantern film, slated for a 2020 release, to which she replied: "That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard."
On Saturday, Rodriguez posted a video to Facebook explaining her remarks, apologizing "if [they] came off rude or stupid" and saying her quote about "stealing" was taken out of context.
In the video, she added: "It's not about taking Catwoman or Superman or Green Lantern ... and trying to make them fit to whatever cultural background you are. I just feel like it should be more creative than that, and I think that people need to stop being lazy."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-rodriguez-superhero-778430?facebook_20150228
2010:
Oh baby, I was typecast the minute I did a film called, Girlfight years ago. That has nothing to do with anything, it just to do with you allow yourself to be typecast. If I decided I didnt want to be typecast tomorrow Id just go do an indie film where I play some poor girl who goes through some excruciating experience and win myself an award for crying or being raped [breaks into laughter] or playing someone with mental illness. But at the end of the day Im not in it for the acting. If I were in it for the acting then I would be worried about people not giving me the opportunity to express my vast array of emotions on the screen.
I could give two shits. I only wanna be someone or I respect or someone that I consider interesting or fun. Im here to entertain people and make a statement about female empowerment and strength and thats what Ive done for the last 10 years, and people can call it typecast, but I pigeonholed myself and I put myself in that box for saying no to everything else that came on my plate. Saying no to the girlfriend, saying no to the girl that gets captured, no to this, no to that. and eventually I just got left with the strong chick thats always being killed and theres nothing wrong with that.
http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2010/0...esponds-to-being-typecast-as-the-tough-chick/
2015:
"Because of this whole 'minorities in Hollywood' thing ... it's so stupid," said the 36-year-old actress, whose mother is from the Dominican Republic and father is Puerto Rican. "Stop stealing all the white people's superheroes. Make up your own."
Rodriguez was also asked about a reported Internet rumor that she may appear in Warner Bros.' new Green Lantern film, slated for a 2020 release, to which she replied: "That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard."
On Saturday, Rodriguez posted a video to Facebook explaining her remarks, apologizing "if [they] came off rude or stupid" and saying her quote about "stealing" was taken out of context.
In the video, she added: "It's not about taking Catwoman or Superman or Green Lantern ... and trying to make them fit to whatever cultural background you are. I just feel like it should be more creative than that, and I think that people need to stop being lazy."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-rodriguez-superhero-778430?facebook_20150228
hanspampel
Banned
F&F needs anything but a bigger cast
Dolla Dolla
Member
The same "death" happened to Shaw moments later in F6 and he was in F8 with a scar on his face. Bringing Gal's character back is not a stretch in this universe in the slightest.
Then she'll come back in FF12 - The Drive for Even More Money