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[Ezekiel_]

Notice how the Nintendo announcement didn't specifically name the Switch? The 2024 COD will launch on the Switch successor on the same day as the XSX and PS5 versions and be a native version, not cloud.

If so, it was always planned and another fake 'concession'

 

[Hendrick's]

No one cares about your boss taking away your stapler.

 

[Pelta88]

They were convincing with a lot of folks, and unsurprisingly, the gullible lot that have been eating their bullshit for years.

Waiting is my choice. Why is fallingdove ridiculing my choices?

Plus E3 is right around the corner!

 

[FoxMcChief]

The industry will die if this deal approved

Ms will take more and more publishers

 

[SneakersSO]

This very much sounds like a threat.
This sounds to me like they're saying "if we don't get Activision, we will just make an exclusivity deal in 2025"

Nope, not a threat. Just adding to the pressure campaign being put on Sony to sign the 10 year deal is all. I mean, there is nothing really stopping them from trying to make an offer towards ATVI to get CoD independently, but should this deal not go through, there are gonna be far larger things they have to deal with - getting CoD exclusively won't even be on Brad Smith's radar at that point.

So, hyperthetically and of course massive hyperthetical because it would be insane to do it. But say, after all this, if the deal didn't go through and there was so much bullshit activision pissed off, microsoft pissed off...

...if Microsoft made an actual full exclusivity deal with Activision on call of duty they could do it from 2025 onwards?

Would everyone be OK with that? Seems like people were happy for MS to buy timed exclusivity deals.

So, Activision could accept a deal with MS where all future cods are exclusive to xbox and PC for 2 years from launch for like the next 10 to 15 years.

That seems crazy dangerous if that's possible.

Hypothetically speaking, if MS were to do something like this, Sony will pony up enough cash to make a defensive exclusivity deal with a favorable partner; GTA6 console exclusive for a year or 2. Shit like that. But again - ya'll reading far too much into this: CoD ain't going exclusive regardless of the outcome of this deal.

Notice how the Nintendo announcement didn't specifically name the Switch? The 2024 COD will launch on the Switch successor on the same day as the XSX and PS5 versions and be a native version, not cloud.

This would be news to the teams within ATVI currently working on CoD 2024 - they dont even have dev kits for the Switch let alone the Switch successor (know this for a fact).

 

[TropicanaTwista]

So basically, the usual Activision could put it on these platforms but they haven't and Microsoft have signed a deal to promise these platforms the games...but that's bad.

And the rest of it is what could happen in 10 to 15 years?
But no immediate concerns then?

As for immediate, Activision isnt just cod. Obviously it's the biggest franchise and the one that should get talked about the most but there are other game and franchises. Will they continue to come to all platforms? I would doubt that. It's an old cliche but actions speak louder than words. Think it is pretty obvious what MS end game here is after watching what they are doing with Bethesda and how the cod offer was originally only 3 years...

Regardless I think you are missing the bigger picture here. None of these short term "benefits" are really benefits. This can all be done with or without MS. They are just doing this to try and show they want a "play anywhere" approach.

 

[FoxMcChief]

How was it poorly written?

Anything that even hints or suggest something negative about our lord and savior Phil Spencer or his company is poorly written and subject to purification.

 

[DrFigs]

As for immediate, Activision isnt just cod. Obviously it's the biggest franchise and the one that should get talked about the most but there are other game and franchises. Will they continue to come to all platforms? I would doubt that. It's an old cliche but actions speak louder than words. Think it is pretty obvious what MS end game here is after watching what they are doing with Bethesda and how the cod offer was originally only 3 years...

Regardless I think you are missing the bigger picture here. None of these short term "benefits" are really benefits. This can all be done with or without MS. They are just doing this to try and show they want a "play anywhere" approach.

Well really COD is the only game that can be argued to be essential to playstation. I mean Crash Bandicoot, Tony Hawk. whatever MS can have those.

 

[adamsapple]

Again, only the tone changed. It isn't like he did a 180. He certainly did not.

No he didn't do a 180, I said the same thing that much of the article is the same. Yet, he still acknowledged that he didn't do a good job explaining his point in the article. Call it bowing down to the twitter mob or anything else, if he or gi.biz thought the article didn't merit it, it wouldn't go through any modification.

 

[TropicanaTwista]

Well really COD is the only game that can be argued to be essential to playstation. I mean Crash Bandicoot, Tony Hawk. whatever MS can have those.

Sure but going back to the original point, I don't see how that is benefiting games. It benefits MS and Xbox gamers yea, not others.

And obviously subjective, but I personally would be more pissed missing out on those franchises than cod.

 

[PaintTinJr]

So, hyperthetically and of course massive hyperthetical because it would be insane to do it. But say, after all this, if the deal didn't go through and there was so much bullshit activision pissed off, microsoft pissed off...

...if Microsoft made an actual full exclusivity deal with Activision on call of duty they could do it from 2025 onwards?

Would everyone be OK with that? Seems like people were happy for MS to buy timed exclusivity deals.

So, Activision could accept a deal with MS where all future cods are exclusive to xbox and PC for 2 years from launch for like the next 10 to 15 years.

That seems crazy dangerous if that's possible.

I wouldn't mind. It would cost Microsoft the cost of potentially killing CoD to do that - $20b?, $30?, $69b? - and I doubt Microsoft's shareholders would be happy with that type of money to lease it. Especially when Activision could and maybe would then make another game with all that money for ... PlayStation

 

[drganon]

Well really COD is the only game that can be argued to be essential to playstation. I mean Crash Bandicoot, Tony Hawk. whatever MS can have those.

Activision sent all those studios to the call of duty and diablo mines.

 

[Topher]

No he didn't do a 180, I said the same thing that much of the article is the same. Yet, he still acknowledged that he didn't do a good job explaining his point in the article. Call it bowing down to the twitter mob or anything else, if he or gi.biz thought the article didn't merit it, it wouldn't go through any modification.

Sounds to me like he is just trying to appease the masses on twitter who simply did not like what was said. Should have stuck to his guns.

 

[adamsapple]

So what's next in the world of the acquisition:

 

[FoxMcChief]

Sounds to me like he is just trying to appease the masses on twitter who simply did not like what was said. Should have stuck to his guns.

His guns are no match against “us”

 

[Pelta88]

I understand your point but to a degree, D A R K isn't wrong. If Microsoft isn't stopped at this juncture, what's to stop them picking up EA next? And having both COD and BF day 1 exclusive on Game pass?

I've said it numerous times before, ATVI deserve better than Kotick and Lulu. A workplace so toxic it leads to suicide is a stain on our industry. So any deal which removes the horse shit at the exec level is a good thing. The problem is, Microsoft has gone on record stating that buying a publisher their way of competing. You've seen the numbers and stats right? if not, let me summarize just a few points of the reality XBOX is facing.

GP - 10% of Revenue.
Cloud gaming - Dismissed and unused by their own metrics
EU console instal base - 4 Million
XBOX Studios - Can't compete with PS also TLOU beyond our capabilities
Japan - Non-existent
Globally - 30% of New PS5 customers didn't own a PS console previously

What does COD do to improve this situation? If purchasing publishers is their method of competing, EA is next. Then Rockstar, or vice versa.

 

[FoxMcChief]

When the merger happens, could MS require an Xbox account in order to play CoD on PS5?

 

[adamsapple]

China expected to approve Microsoft/Activision Blizzard merger, according to local lawyers

China’s State Administration for Market Regulation (SAMR) is likely to approve Microsoft’s acquisition of video game publisher Activision Blizzard, despite the review process being slowed down by potential complaints, two Chinese antitrust lawyers wh... To […]

www.equityreport.co.uk

 

[Pelta88]

When the merger happens, could MS require an Xbox account in order to play CoD on PS5?

They would own it outright so yes.

At that point they could say you need to by a specific toaster to get access.

 

[NonPhixion]

Damnnnnn, Lulu out here tweeting like her stocks are still only worth the $77.xx /per she paid last year.

 

[HoofHearted]

The industry will die if this deal approved

Ms will take more and more publishers

 

[mansoor1980]

China expected to approve Microsoft/Activision Blizzard merger, according to local lawyers

China’s State Administration for Market Regulation (SAMR) is likely to approve Microsoft’s acquisition of video game publisher Activision Blizzard, despite the review process being slowed down by potential complaints, two Chinese antitrust lawyers wh... To […]

www.equityreport.co.uk

but i thought CCP and stuff are evil

 

[Sanepar]

So what's next in the world of the acquisition:

The deal is done. Or sony accept 10 years of cod or they will be left with nothing after 2024.

Big move for MS. Biggest fps franchise ever and with Diablo Sony just have bioware and cdpr wrpgs now.

 

[FoxMcChief]

China expected to approve Microsoft/Activision Blizzard merger, according to local lawyers

China’s State Administration for Market Regulation (SAMR) is likely to approve Microsoft’s acquisition of video game publisher Activision Blizzard, despite the review process being slowed down by potential complaints, two Chinese antitrust lawyers wh... To […]

www.equityreport.co.uk

China don't care.

China still cool!

 

[HoofHearted]

I was thinking yesterday into why Cod and Minecraft aren't exclusive, its not just the fact that they have been very spread around devices, but even in CMA survey it shows that Call of Duty wouldn't move a massive base into another console, its appeal is mostly on casual games who will not be convinced to require to spend +300$ to play new games in another console, while games like Starfield and Redfall are about more hardcore consumers who will desire it even at higher costs.

You're referring to the CMA survey with a whopping ~4% response rate?

 

[DrFigs]

Never thought the Chinese government would love freedom more than the FTC. smh

 

[FoxMcChief]

The deal is done. Or sony accept 10 years of cod or they will be left with nothing after 2024.

Big move for MS. Biggest fps franchise ever and with Diablo Sony just have bioware and cdpr wrpgs now.

For now.

 

[93xfan]

The industry will die if this deal approved

Ms will take more and more publishers

Don’t think so. Maybe they could leverage Sony not buying all these 3rd party games for exclusivity and we’d have more games on each system

 

[X-Wing]

This line is still there

It’s a fact though.

 

[demigod]

http://[URL]https://www.equityrepor...n-blizzard-merger-according-to-local-lawyers/

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China would slit their mom's throat for a nickel.

 

[Thirty7ven]

When the merger happens, could MS require an Xbox account in order to play CoD on PS5?

Would that make you happy?

MS will add those numbers to Xbox mau anyway don’t worry.

 

[splattered]

The deal is done. Or sony accept 10 years of cod or they will be left with nothing after 2024.

Big move for MS. Biggest fps franchise ever and with Diablo Sony just have bioware and cdpr wrpgs now.

Playstation still has Diablo, that isn't changing. I have a feeling Microsoft will continue publishing several of these franchises on Playstation moving forward even though people don't want to believe it at the moment. Not go full on 3rd party but still maintain stuff that makes financial sense like Minecraft, COD, FO76 etc

 

[D A R K]

Don’t think so. Maybe they could leverage Sony not buying all these 3rd party games for exclusivity and we’d have more games on each system

Phil said there's more acquisition coming. He said that weeks after the news of the acquisition on Activision

 

[FoxMcChief]

Would that make you happy?

MS will add those numbers to Xbox mau anyway don’t worry.

Only the world burning would make me happy.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Phil said there's more acquisition coming. He said that weeks after the news of the acquisition on Activision

If Phil says it…..

 

[Thirty7ven]

Only the world burning would make me happy.

We will do it together, I bring the gas you bring the light.

 

[drganon]

Only the world burning would make me happy.

 

[GHG]

http://[URL]https://www.equityrepor...n-blizzard-merger-according-to-local-lawyers/

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Everyone furiously deleting their "fuck China" posts and tweets.

 

[FoxMcChief]

 

[drganon]

Phil said there's more acquisition coming. He said that weeks after the news of the acquisition on Activision

Yup. Phil's real bad about keeping his mouth shut. Probably why he's been muzzled as of late.

 

[HoofHearted]

We will do it together, I bring the gas you bring the light.

 

[DenchDeckard]

People won't like it but yes i'd be okay with that. Its a completley different thing.

wow, i would think that would be more detrimental to sony than this current deal.

When the merger happens, could MS require an Xbox account in order to play CoD on PS5?

that would suck.

Playstation still has Diablo, that isn't changing. I have a feeling Microsoft will continue publishing several of these franchises on Playstation moving forward even though people don't want to believe it at the moment. Not go full on 3rd party but still maintain stuff that makes financial sense like Minecraft, COD, FO76 etc

yup, i think loads of franchises will still come to ps5 and phil/xbox will use it as "see we are good"

Everyone furiously deleting their "fuck China" posts and tweets.

 

[GHG]

Lulu is of Chinese heritage too.

 

[drganon]

In that case, just do all of us a favor and don't start wearing your dead mothers clothes.

 

[POKEYCLYDE]

So what's next in the world of the acquisition:

I feel like the Nvidia and Nintendo deals are real world examples Microsoft can point to and say that we have boilerplate contracts for any cloud or platform holder that wants access to Call of Duty.

Probably won't be enough. But no one really knows, we'll find out in April most likely.

 

[TheGodfather07]

The deal is done. Or sony accept 10 years of cod or they will be left with nothing after 2024.

Big move for MS. Biggest fps franchise ever and with Diablo Sony just have bioware and cdpr wrpgs now.

Why do you keep saying that? The deal is nowhere near complete. Why you think Brad Smith did that stupid presentation?

 

[adamsapple]

Lulu is of Chinese heritage too.

 

[Heisenberg007]

As there is no more news at the moment, a hypothetical question for those who are in favor of this acquisition:

Suppose this acquisition gets approved, and MS acquires ABK. Sony doesn't accept the deal, and then it is up to Microsoft to either make COD available on PS or not. Then Sony announces they are acquiring Take-Two so they can "compete."

Would the supporters of this acquisition also support the Sony / Take-Two acquisition, even if it means potentially making all their games (including GTA, Madden, and Red Dead) exclusive to PlayStation?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Phil said there's more acquisition coming. He said that weeks after the news of the acquisition on Activision

If Phil says it…..

Yup. Phil's real bad about keeping his mouth shut. Probably why he's been muzzled as of late.

Jim Ryan said the same thing

Its the world we live in today I doubt we ever see the end of acquisitions

 

[Kilau]

As there is no more news at the moment, a hypothetical question for those who are in favor of this acquisition:

Suppose this acquisition gets approved, and MS acquires ABK. Sony doesn't accept the deal, and then it is up to Microsoft to either make COD available on PS or not. Then Sony announces they are acquiring Take-Two so they can "compete."

Would the supporters of this acquisition also support the Sony / Take-Two acquisition, even if it means potentially making all their games (including GTA, Madden, and Red Dead) exclusive to PlayStation?

I’d wonder how Take-Two got Madden.

Any big sports license would stay multi anyway, look at The Show.