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I don't get how Idas characterizes the Diebold case as a "carve out". CMA required the company to divest one of the UK businesses.


Not sure how Meta proposed a "carve out" for Giphy either. Giphy was never in the UK at all. Maybe I'm reading what Idas is saying wrong.
The carve out stuff just doesn't pass muster for me tbh.

IMHO, The only reason they'd be considering it is if Kotick told them he has no intention of doing any extensions. I'm no lawyer but that's how I think about it tbh.
 
Three alts.

Ah ha ha

Get it together ALTs......back to respawn!


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I don't get how Idas characterizes the Diebold case as a "carve out". CMA required the company to divest one of the UK businesses.


Not sure how Meta proposed a "carve out" for Giphy either. Giphy was never in the UK at all. Maybe I'm reading what Idas is saying wrong.

Yeah I'm not getting what he's saying there either. Both situations were divestments. There was no getting around it. Giphy was the CMA basically telling Meta what they're telling Microsoft now. "We don't give a shit where your operations are based. You want to do business in our country, we tell you what you're allowed".
 
I don't get how Idas characterizes the Diebold case as a "carve out". CMA required the company to divest one of the UK businesses.


Not sure how Meta proposed a "carve out" for Giphy either. Giphy was never in the UK at all. Maybe I'm reading what Idas is saying wrong.
I think he just means while the appeals processes are in progress. If ultimately Microsoft were to lose once everything is done they would have closed the deal but kept ABK in a state where they could divest with minimal disruption when that time comes. They actually suggested something similar to Judge Corley I believe, in the case she wants to rule in FTC's favor as a potential decision option short of effectively killing the entire deal. Rule to allow them to close, but hold ABK separate from MS operations until such time as the legalities conclude.
 
I don't get how Idas characterizes the Diebold case as a "carve out". CMA required the company to divest one of the UK businesses.


Not sure how Meta proposed a "carve out" for Giphy either. Giphy was never in the UK at all. Maybe I'm reading what Idas is saying wrong.
You're right; it wasn't a carve out, rather a divestment. But I think the principle he was getting at, in terms of net effect, is the same; a wholly separate entity being ABK UK, that MS has no interest in.
 
Sure, you could turn around. But have you ever considered subscribing to Xbox Game Pass instead? It's the place to play racing games, FPS games and RPGs all for one low monthly price. It's what me and all of my friends do, because we're all tired of Sony's critically acclaimed walking simulator movie games.
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Sure, you could turn around. But have you ever considered subscribing to Xbox Game Pass instead? It's the place to play racing games, FPS games and RPGs all for one low monthly price. It's what me and all of my friends do, because we're all tired of Sony's critically acclaimed walking simulator movie games.

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You're right; it wasn't a carve out, rather a divestment. But I think the principle he was getting at, in terms of net effect, is the same; a wholly separate entity being ABK UK, that MS has no interest in.

Every time I read about a "carve out", it is usually in the context of skirting the CMA entirely which isn't what this is talking about. This divestment was agreed to by the CMA as a remedy. I don't see that happening here as things stand. Of course, what the CMA does after the appeal is anyone's guess.
 
You're right; it wasn't a carve out, rather a divestment. But I think the principle he was getting at, in terms of net effect, is the same; a wholly separate entity being ABK UK, that MS has no interest in.

Doesn't even make sense. What is achieved by their being an independent ABK in the UK?
 
Every time I read about a "carve out", it is usually in the context of skirting the CMA entirely which isn't what this is talking about. This divestment was agreed to by the CMA as a remedy. I don't see that happening here as things stand. Of course, what the CMA does after the appeal is anyone's guess.
We're all missing the actual point here.

Microsoft will carve out Activision from ABK and close the deal. Sony will acquire the divested Activision, and that's what they were raising money for. And the CMA will have no problem with Sony acquiring Activision because (1) the CMA had already discarded console SLC concerns and (2) Sony doesn't have the majority in the Cloud gaming market.

And thus the biggest reverse UNO of the modern age will be completed. 😛
 
Sony holding back dev kits will only hurt Sony, meaning their versions of games won't exploit their console. Sony having poorer performance on COD will have more detrimental cost to Sony, and why you think that would help Take Two I have no idea.

On top of that it's horseshit that it would hurt their hurt them if MS had one of their dev kits.
99% of the tech in the consoles is AMD owned and open to both companies, and the tech that is Sony's would be covered by patents.
Both Sony and MS would have to be pretty dumb to think that the other party didn't have a really good idea of what the other was doing.
Both companies are refrained by the exact same thing, heat and price.

I was wondering how that would work, should the deal go through. lets say, when PS6 arrives......normally they give the devs the dev kits long before the finished hardware launched. Would that first edition of COD on PS6, then suffer because sony wont give MS dev kits to unreleased sony hardware (which is totally understandable, given they would not want to give away their hardware secrets before launch, to their rival)? they would have to send the kit to COD running....but how late would they leave it, to send that kit? maybe the first version would be a bit rough and patched out....who knows, how thats gonna work at launch. assuming they launch the PS6 in the same timeframe as a new COD.




"Both Sony and MS would have to be pretty dumb to think that the other party didn't have a really good idea of what the other was doing."

id agree. how else do they keep ending up with the same CPUs in their consoles for the last two generations? from what I hear the teams that worked on both consoles are not allowed to discuss their work with each other but, all the same. they end up with the same CPUs, even if other things about the systems are different. they end up with similar performance. credit to AMD all the same because I think this gen of consoles were well specced for the price at launch.
 
I was wondering how that would work, should the deal go through. lets say, when PS6 arrives......normally they give the devs the dev kits long before the finished hardware launched. Would that first edition of COD on PS6, then suffer because sony wont give MS dev kits to unreleased sony hardware (which is totally understandable, given they would not want to give away their hardware secrets before launch, to their rival)? they would have to send the kit to COD running....but how late would they leave it, to send that kit? maybe the first version would be a bit rough and patched out....who knows, how thats gonna work at launch. assuming they launch the PS6 in the same timeframe as a new COD.




"Both Sony and MS would have to be pretty dumb to think that the other party didn't have a really good idea of what the other was doing."

id agree. how else do they keep ending up with the same CPUs in their consoles for the last two generations? from what I hear the teams that worked on both consoles are not allowed to discuss their work with each other but, all the same. they end up with the same CPUs, even if other things about the systems are different. they end up with similar performance. credit to AMD all the same because I think this gen of consoles were well specced for the price at launch.
Back to "dev kit" stuff again?

It wasn't ever about dev kits, it's about sharing proposed features and specs of a non finished system.
 
Wow didn't think I'd ever get approved. I've been creeping back and forth between Res and here and the contrast between the two is pretty crazy to see. I'll be honest I'm not in favor of this deal going through. I hate the way the industry is consolidating the way it is right now. I don't think it's good for the industry. I suspect the PI will be denied but I don't think MS will close over the CMA but I'm not even certain of that anymore.
 
I was wondering how that would work, should the deal go through. lets say, when PS6 arrives......normally they give the devs the dev kits long before the finished hardware launched. Would that first edition of COD on PS6, then suffer because sony wont give MS dev kits to unreleased sony hardware (which is totally understandable, given they would not want to give away their hardware secrets before launch, to their rival)? they would have to send the kit to COD running....but how late would they leave it, to send that kit? maybe the first version would be a bit rough and patched out....who knows, how thats gonna work at launch. assuming they launch the PS6 in the same timeframe as a new COD.




"Both Sony and MS would have to be pretty dumb to think that the other party didn't have a really good idea of what the other was doing."

id agree. how else do they keep ending up with the same CPUs in their consoles for the last two generations? from what I hear the teams that worked on both consoles are not allowed to discuss their work with each other but, all the same. they end up with the same CPUs, even if other things about the systems are different. they end up with similar performance. credit to AMD all the same because I think this gen of consoles were well specced for the price at launch.
Develop for pc, then port it to console spec level.
 
Why.. if ABK gets to go through its all a green light... who cares at that point, industry is completely open for business. Clearly theres a large contingent of xbox fans who dont give a F about Consolodation. i dont want Sony to acquire a publisher but MS has left them with no other choice if they go down that route, they cant just sit by


Not being funny but...sony as a company dont give a flying fuck about consolidation, either. they did and still do their fair shair of it in the music biz. Sony will consolidate what they can in this biz as they have in the music and movies industries. they have had no real motivation up till now, but maybe buying a publisher running them as a biz on the side would be good for their revenue too. essentily these guys (MS and sony) will be buying the revenue of these companies. keeping the games they make everywhere.


I know its an evil word around here but the big C happens in almost all industries. its even happening in the car industry to a degree. and we all see it happening in the movie biz. just think about all the studios that have shuttered their doors in this insudtry in the last 10 years...maybe aquisitions would have saved them, who knows? at the end of the day business is business. their is no profit in being ethical. Just the share holders of any of these companies. . if their company can be the dominant player they will play that game. so lets not pretend MS are the only company that is protecting their own interests. there is no white knight company trying to save the industry. everybody is just trying to make as much money as they can like any biz.



"Clearly theres a large contingent of xbox fans who dont give a F about Consolodation."


I know I dont. It happens. its unavoidable for the most part. but lets say this is entirely true that a large portion dont.....it would not change the inevitability of consolidation nor would it stop big purchases being made in this biz, anyway. its simply something that happens in all businesses. big companies buy up other big comapnies all the time. we may not like but, we aint the ones buying either. we buy the 70 dollar game....we aint buying the 70 billion dollar comapnies. as consumers we get to theright to complain about the products when they are terrible and when the services are poor. but we have no say in who buys what. we live in a capitalist world after all.



Im not saying you are right or wrong for feeling how you feel about it. but at the end of the day... it has little to do with us. but for sure it makes for great forum fodder though!
 
Unfortunately I think the PI will get denied and MS will close the deal

Which is going to mean this thread won't end for a long time as this drags out in the CMA appeal

Ultimately though I think the CMA decision will be upheld and MS will be forced to sell Activision if that happens

We better hope the judge grants the injunction and just outright kills this deal to spare us another year plus of drama and wasted legal fees/time for everyone involved

This case has been one giant distraction.
 
Develop for pc, then port it to console spec level.

Yeah, they could do that, but lets say the console has some propitary duel sense style features or some other way of handling its RAM, they wont be able to really take advantage of those features at the last minute. I guess they will cross that bridge when they get to it, if the deal goes through.
 
Reposting the full text here because screw having to sift through those screenshots.

Tomorrow we'll be 8 days away from "The End", July 18th 😬 (although I think that an extension is likely to happen).

Let's see how things are right now and what may happen if the FTC preliminary injunction (PI) is denied and MS/ABK go ahead and try to close over the UK now or later.

1.- Previously on... Antitrust Simulator

If the FTC preliminary injunction (PI) is denied, MS/ABK would still need approvals from:

- Turkey: there is no cloud gaming there, so an unconditional approval makes the most sense (probably next week).

- Canada: a letter from the Canadian Competition Bureau dated June 28th 2023, stated that on May 5th, 2023, the Bureau communicated to Microsoft and Activision's Canadian counsel that the Bureau had concluded that the proposed merger is likely to result in a substantial prevention and/or lessening of competition with respect to gaming consoles and multigame subscription services (as well as cloud gaming). The Bureau said that it was continuing to monitor the transaction.

This part makes it sound like they are blocking the acquisition: "The Bureau had concluded that the proposed merger is likely to result in a substantial prevention and/or lessening of competition...", but officially it hasn't happened yet.

Canada updates the list of concluded merger reviews on or after the 10th calendar day of each month and nothing has been published there. Next week may be the right moment to get a definitive answer about this because the list should be updated again.

However, and according to the merger agreement, the merger can be completed if MS/ABK obtain clearance to consummate the transaction or applicable waiting periods (or any extension thereof) have expired or been terminated in each applicable jurisdiction. MS said that the waiting period in Canada expired and that the Bureau missed the window to block, therefore that they can close whenever they want.

We'll see if this is how this story ends or we'll get some news next week.

- New Zealand: after 7 delays, a decision is expected on July 17th. This time it seems for real because they published the Statement of Issues (SoI) and first and third parties are sending submissions to the SoI.

Right now, New Zealand has concerns about console and cloud gaming. A block from them shouldn't be deal-breaking but could be an extra issue.

- Australia: the review process has been suspended since September 8th 2022. I read that the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) and the Commerce Commission from New Zealand (CCNZ) usually work together. So, maybe they decided that the decision from New Zealand is going to be valid for both because the markets are very, very similar.

We'll see if we get any update from them during the next days.

In any case, closing over Australia is not unprecedented because it happened in 2021 with the acquisition of Fitbit by Google.

- UK: the acquisition was blocked on April 26th 2023 over concerns that the deal would alter the future of the fast-growing cloud gaming market, leading to reduced innovation and less choice for UK gamers in the next years.

MS/ABK appealed the decision on May 26th to the Competition Appeal Tribunal (CAT). The main hearing has been listed to commence on July 28th, with a time estimate of six days. You can read a lot more about how this process works here.

At the same time, the CMA published on May 18th a notice of intention to make a final order prohibiting the acquisition. The CMA published a draft of that final order and a deadline for the imposition of the final order is July 19th.

Obviously, if the FTC PI is denied, the CMA is the real final boss because:

1) they rarely lose an appeal;
2) all the times that they have lost one, they have reached the same decision after reviewing the case again.

2.- Exploring the ways

On June 1st, Mlex published a report, later corroborated by Bloomberg, explaining that MS was exploring ways to close the deal over the UK. The main scenarios were:

A) Activision exiting the UK for another European country in a bid to remove itself from the CMA's jurisdiction. Its games could continue to be sold via a distributor. Any such decision should be taken by Activision to avoid breaching merger laws that stipulate that merging companies must be managed separately and independently until they actually close.

B) Microsoft extending the remedies given to and accepted by the European Commission to the UK unilaterally, even though they were rejected as insufficient by the CMA.

C) MS actively contesting the CMA's draft order that would give effect to its veto, banning Microsoft from acquiring an interest in Activision for several years, and vice versa, due to the CMA imposing a global ban solely to address concerns relating to the UK market.

D) If modifying the final order fails, Microsoft could challenge the final order in court to seek to narrow its scope, to potentially allow it to close elsewhere in the world.

E) Microsoft closing the transaction and arguing that the order banning them from acquiring an interest in ABK, and vice versa, was illegal in its defense when sued by the CMA.

As you can see, 3 of the main scenarios are related to the final order from the CMA (scenario B indirectly too). The deadline to impose the final order is July 19th, while the last day to close the merger is July 18th. :S

Scenario C is very likely already happening becase the ruling from the CAT refusing an application by the CMA for an adjournment of the main hearing (on June 29th), included this:

There have been a range of other developments in relation to the proceedings which either have already, or will soon, divert significant resources of the CMA away from the preparations for the hearing. These include an increase in the scale of work that will be involved in relation to a consultation procedure on a final order in relation to the CMA's merger decision in this case. (page 7)

Finally, it is suggested that the CMA has much other work to do, including in relation to this matter. Prevett 1/[30]ff indicates that a great deal of time is being spent by the CMA preparing for the final order consequent on the Decision. The Tribunal wrote shortly in response to the CMA's application making clear that it would adjourn of its own motion the final order, which is obviously significantly less material than this application. According to Mr Prevett, the deadline for the imposition of the final order is 19 July 2023. There is no reason why this cannot be extended to, say, the end of August and (if and order of the Tribunal is necessary) that is what the Tribunal would be minded to do. (page 12)

If the CMA has so much work in relation to the consultation procedure of the final order, very likely it's because MS/ABK are actively contesting it. In any case, as you can see the CAT could extend the deadline to impose the final order to the end of August at least, potentially changing the sequence of events.

Personally, I don't think that scenario A is going to happen now or even later. Moving ABK to another European country would take months and the CMA has a wide discretion to claim jurisdiction.

I think that scenarios C, D and E (with B connected to all of them) are going to be the main way: contesting the scope of the draft final order and if that fails challenging the final order in court. I also think that there could be two ways to proceed with this, at least:

Reasonable: MS challenging the final order in court and waiting until a decision is being made (in parallel to the CAT appeal).

Aggressive: MS closing the transaction, unilaterally extending the EC remedies to UK and challenging the final order in court, arguing that it was illegal. A variation of this could be closing the transaction, extending the EC remedies and waiting until the CMA sues them.

One way or another, scenarios C, D and E are thinking about excluding the UK from the transaction (temporarily or permanently), closing in every jurisdiction where there has been clearance or the applicable waiting periods have expired. This means that MS/ABK may be thinking about carving-out the UK.

3.- The wait is over: activate the carve-out procedure

3.1- The basics

Cross-border corporate transactions like this one, often require merger clearance by several competition authorities before they can be implemented (in this case, from 16 jurisdictions).

Sometime the parties are working on a very tight schedule (or the established outside date is simply getting closer and closer) and the necessary approval in just one last jurisdiction is still pending (in this case, potentially the UK). When this happens, a carve-out of this jurisdiction may be an option in order to be able to implement the rest of the transaction in time.

It's important to remember that this is not the way that things are usually done. This procedure has been rarely used (this is why we don't have a lot of precedents and only a very limited number of published decisions by competition authorities dealing with the subject), and it's difficult to implement in practice. Add to that the fact that the majority of jurisdictions don't have specific legal requirements about carve-outs (Colombia is one exception, for example). Therefore, a carve-out procedure is something very unique.

According to CADE (the Brazilian regulator), a carve-out is the separation of a business unit (for example, ABK UK) from the structure of a firm (ABK). In this case, the business to be separated is not autonomous (ABK UK). Thus, the carve-out process may require that the assets or personnel are doubled so as to ensure the divested business is viable and competitive (if the carve-out is permanent).

A variation of the procedure is when the parties try to resolve the situation by temporarily carving out from the overall deal the part of the transaction in the country which has yet to issue clearance (ABK UK) and having it held separately by the seller (ABK) pending clearance. This is a carve-out and hold-separate procedure.

There could be even a third variation of this, a carve-out and ring-fencing procedure. Although ring-fencing is usually used in finance and for tax purposes, it can be used in M&A too. Although we don't have a standard definition, normally a ring fence is a legal virtual barrier that separates a company's assets (for example, ABK UK from ABK). Usually, it's used to protect a company's core business from the risk of its subsidiary businesses. In M&A is also used to block information sharing between the seller (ABK) and the package of assets to be divested temporarily or permanently (ABK UK). Therefore, it is a separating measure aimed to protect trade secrets or other confidential information regarding the divestiture.

In summary, when in a multi-jurisdictional transaction like this one the outside date is coming really close and fast but the necessary approval in just one last jurisdiction is still pending, the parties may decide to close everywhere and exclude the pending jurisdiction temporarily (while they wait for approval) or permanently (abandoning that market). This can be done through different ways that try to separate the non-autonomous business unit (ABK UK) from the main one (ABK).

3.2.- The risks

Because only a few jurisdictions have specific legal requirements covering carve-outs and the majority of regulators don't accept them by default (South Africa is an exemption, for example) implementing a carve-out procedure is usually classified as (a partial) implementation of the proposed transaction and, therefore, as a breach of the obligation to not close until there is a decision. This is usually called "gun jumping".

For example, one of the few decisions about the carve-out procedure is from CADE in Brazil. In 2016, carve-out agreements were analyzed by CADE in the merger review of the purchase of a subsidiary of Cisco Systems, Inc. by Technicolor S.A. During the analysis of the transaction (and without clearance from CADE yet) the regulator became aware of a public announcement of the global closing on Technicolor's website. Three days later, the applicants informed CADE about the global closing and after a month presented the carve-out agreement as a justification, alleging that it would preserve the competitive conditions in the Brazilian market until CADE's approval. CADE decided that there had been a violation since the transaction was implemented before clearance, and that neither the urgency, nor the absence of anticompetitive impact could justify the prior closing of the merger. CADE and the parties entered into an agreement setting forth a pecuniary contribution of EUR 6.7 million.

The Illumina/Grail case is another example of gun jumping (Illumina closed the transaction just days before the outside date without approval from the EC), and a fine up to $450 million is expected.

Another example of carve-out procedure automatically classified as gun jumping was imposed by the German competition authority in 2008 in the Mars/Nutro case. The regulator imposed a fine of EUR 4.5 million for an unlawful carve-out.

Therefore, in this situation the right way to implement a carve-out procedure is to talk with the regulator affected by it before making any moves (just going nuclear is only going to cause a lot of pain).

3.3.- The merger agreement

Although uncommon, sometimes the merger/purchase agreement may include provisions to implement a carve-out procedure.

For example, a provision could specify that: if on a particular date (let's say, July 18th 2023) merger control clearances have been granted in at least Y jurisdictions (Y being a specified number of jurisdictions which appears reasonable in view of the scope of the transaction) or in jurisdictions A, B and C (which are of key significance for the transaction as a whole) and the other (non-merger control-related) closing conditions have been met or waived, the transaction may be implemented in respect of these jurisdictions.

In any case, parties often opt not to include any provisions relating to carve-outs in the merger agreement, but rather choose to agree on further actions on an ad hoc basis, as and when they become relevant.

The MS/ABK merger agreement does not include specific provisions to implement a carve-out procedure, but sometimes the wording seems to leave the door open for something else:

Activision Blizzard and Microsoft have agreed to use their reasonable best efforts to comply with all regulatory filing and notification requirements and obtain all regulatory approvals required or recommended to consummate the merger and the other transactions contemplated by the merger agreement. These approvals include approval under, or notifications pursuant to, the HSR Act and the competition laws of the European Union, the United Kingdom, China and certain other jurisdictions.

In addition, each of Activision Blizzard and Microsoft have agreed to (1) cooperate and coordinate with each other to make such filings; (2) use its reasonable best efforts to supply the other with any information that may be required in order to make such filings; (3) use its reasonable best efforts to supply any additional information that reasonably may be requested to obtain regulatory approvals; (4) use its reasonable best efforts to take all action necessary to obtain regulatory approvals as soon as practicable; and (5) provide notice to the other party if it plans to participate in any meeting or substantive conversation with any governmental authority with respect to the merger.

If and to the extent necessary to obtain regulatory approval of the merger, Microsoft, Sub and, solely to the extent requested by Microsoft, Activision Blizzard will (1) offer, negotiate, commit to and effect, by consent decree, hold separate order or otherwise, (A) the sale, divestiture, license or other disposition of assets (whether tangible or intangible), rights, products or businesses of Activision Blizzard; and (B) any other restrictions on the activities of Activision Blizzard; and (2) contest, defend and appeal any legal proceedings, whether judicial or administrative, challenging the merger agreement or the consummation of the merger.

3.4.- The regulators

Competition authorities which regularly deal with cross-border transactions like this one generally reject carve-outs procedures.

A regulator will take into account if the implementation abroad of the transaction will have any impact on the domestic market (UK, in this case). For example, if the parts of the shares or assets acquired abroad are indirectly capable of improving the acquirer's position in the national market, because a key patent, asset or IP has been acquired, that would be a reason to reject the carve-out.

For example, Colombia permits a carve-out if:

a) The buyer is not able to control nor influence the local business of the target company; (ABK in UK has studios, manufacturing, distribution and publishing offices).

b) Business secrets relating to the local business of the target company are shielded from the buyer;

c) The carve-out is structured so as to ensure that, should the local competition authority prohibit the transaction, the local business could easily be reintegrated in the seller's business (MS said to the FTC that the ABK implementation would be limited, like the Zenimax one, easy to unwind then).

The EC rejected in 2011, in SC Johnson/Sara Lee's, a carve-out procedure because SC Johnson had failed to prove that the negative financial effects caused by the delay would have exceeded the consequences normally caused by the suspension obligation during the merger control procedure.

The case in Brazil in 2016 was rejected because CADE ruled that the Brazilian part of the business had not been sufficiently isolated, arguing, in particular, that the markets affected by the transaction were international (cloud gaming being the main SLC could mean that it's easy and hard to isolate, so depending on the interpretation it could be a good or bad thing).

In any case, sometimes carve-outs have been implemented.

For example, the EC in 2006, and in the in the context of the acquisition of Dyno by Orica, approved a carve-out due to the exceptionally serious consequences to be expected if the transaction were to be further delayed.

In South Africa and in 2005, the A.P. Møller-Mærsk and Royal P&O Nedlloyd merger was implemented early in Europe while the South African part was carved out for the duration of the South African proceedings and implemented separately at a later date.

The Indian competition authority accepted a carve-out in the Holcim/Lafarge merger. The deal was implemented at a global level before clearance had been issued in India.

Even the CMA has accepted a carve-out, in 2017 in the Diebold/Wincor Nixdorf case. In 2020, Meta tried to carve-out Giphy and the CMA was at least ready to listen to it but Meta did not provide sufficient information to allow the CMA to decide on the requested derogations (for example, narrowing the scope of the initial enforcement order). Therefore, the carve-out was rejected and Meta fined for repeated breaches.

As you can see, although there are some general rules, carve-out procedures are studied case by case and only the parties really know if they are possible and the best way to proceed.

4.- Conclusions

- I think that if the FTC PI is denied, the CMA becomes the main obstacle to close the acquisition and that MS is going to try to find a way around them, now or later.

- The implementation of the CMA final order prohibiting the acquisition is probably a key event for the next days/weeks. From the feedback that the CMA provided to the CAT by the end of June, it sounds like MS is seriously challenging the draft published in May.

- My guess is that MS is trying to close everywhere on time (July 18th) while trying to "negotiate/discuss/settle" with the CMA a carve-out for UK in the final order (expected in July 19th), while they let the CAT appeal proceed and see what happens.

- I think that a (short) extension of the merger agreement is hard to avoid, because unless there is some kind of miracle, all the most likely scenarios to close need more time to deal with the CMA.

- If the FTC PI is denied and the CMA final order remains the same, therefore the CMA rejects a possible carve-out now, I think that the merger agreement will be extended for a short time to see what happens with the CAT appeal and that MS won't close in the rest of the world (too much risk and if they are willing to do it, they could try it post CAT ruling). Although MS will likely challenge the final order in court.


Anyway, we are at peak uncertainty and this is just my best try to guess what may happen during the next 8 - 10 days. But there are so many variables and we don't have all the info, that it's very hard to make a prediction :p

So, let's see what happens and enjoy the ride :D
Sounds like the merger been dead since the cma block.
Why even waste anymore time.
 
You're right; it wasn't a carve out, rather a divestment. But I think the principle he was getting at, in terms of net effect, is the same; a wholly separate entity being ABK UK, that MS has no interest in.

Why, though? Couldn't Microsoft work out a deal for partial ownership of the divested entity? They would still be able to claim part of the revenue stream as their own. They could also set up an arrangement for publishing rights on Xbox platforms, which would give them full marketing rights to those versions of the game. They could also get access rights to the content in Game Pass, though maybe at a higher price for Day 1, and retain all the MTX/DLC revenue from the game on their platforms (Xbox and Game Pass). Meanwhile, if say the divestment only affected the Activision side, or even Activision & Blizzard, King would (should) be exempt from that, and hasn't Microsoft repeatedly said this deal is mainly about mobile?

So why wouldn't Microsoft want to go for a divestment that still gives them most of what they want? Because what Microsoft really wants is to have 100% full ownership of everything, and damage direct competitors with that full ownership and using it as leverage to foreclose. They can't accomplish that if they have to divest a part of ABK, even in just a specific market. They're that power-hungry for the whole thing. With the divestment options just mentioned, it means Sony & Nintendo would also be able to get full publishing rights of COD (and other ABK games) on their platforms, and retain that revenue 100% with B2P, MTX & DLC sales. They could also option to put the game in their services Day 1 at a higher cost. They would have to fund versions of those games for their platforms at least partially, while Microsoft could get theirs funded "for free" as part of having partial ownership of the divested entity.

Microsoft doesn't seem to like letting competitors have options. A divested form of ABK would also mean other companies can buy shares in it: say if the terms for MS were they get an automatic 33% stake in the company as majority shareholder, they keep those shares permanently. But if the divested entity is going to be a public company, then others like Sony, Nintendo, Apple, Sazzy Group, Tencent etc. could buy shares of their own into it. I just don't think Microsoft like that idea at all because, again, this acquisition is all about 100% ownership and control for them.

It's the only way they feel they can have any power, and in a way I feel sorry for them because of that.

Either way, gaming news is gonna be a lot more boring once this is over.

Nah; frankly I'm tired of this acquisition talk. It was nice that gaming showcases actually happened between late May-early June because only the most rabid followers of the acquisition were still talking about it at length during that period.

Now we're back to a lot of people focusing on it primarily. Sucks. Gaming isn't about acquisitions and it's too bad for Microsoft that shopping sprees are the only way they can maintain some actual longer-term relevance.

I know its an evil word around here but the big C happens in almost all industries. its even happening in the car industry to a degree. and we all see it happening in the movie biz. just think about all the studios that have shuttered their doors in this insudtry in the last 10 years...maybe aquisitions would have saved them, who knows? at the end of the day business is business. their is no profit in being ethical. Just the share holders of any of these companies. . if their company can be the dominant player they will play that game. so lets not pretend MS are the only company that is protecting their own interests. there is no white knight company trying to save the industry. everybody is just trying to make as much money as they can like any biz.

We're getting less Fox content now than before Disney purchased them. Look at all the studios EA have purchased and then shuttered. Look at Nokia and Mixer; acquisitions didn't save them at all. Somehow Xbox made less revenue this past fiscal year than the one prior, after acquiring Zenimax.

Acquisitions don't inherently benefit anyone other than the company making the acquisition. If it works out, great, they just make more money. If it doesn't, and the acquisition was a potential competitor, well now that competitor's dead no need to worry anymore over them. If it doesn't work out in general, they can probably sell the acquired asset off to someone else. Most of the acquiring companies are large enough vs. what they acquire that even if the acquisition fails, the acquiring company can just write it off and move on.
 
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Unfortunately I think the PI will get denied and MS will close the deal

Which is going to mean this thread won't end for a long time as this drags out in the CMA appeal

Ultimately though I think the CMA decision will be upheld and MS will be forced to sell Activision if that happens

We better hope the judge grants the injunction and just outright kills this deal to spare us another year plus of drama and wasted legal fees/time for everyone involved

This case has been one giant distraction.
If the text of the deal requires CMA approval, then any attempt to close the deal without changing the contract and it being re-signed by both MS and ATK will be invalid.
 
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Well, Microsoft love changing contracts, as we've seen with Indiana Jones.

So maybe anything is possible on that note :/
It can absolutely be changed, but can it be changed without shareholder approval?

Would shareholders have agreed to a deal that could have closed day one but provided no checks to prevent a forced divestment and loss of billions later?
 
It can absolutely be changed, but can it be changed without shareholder approval?

Would shareholders have agreed to a deal that could have closed day one but provided no checks to prevent a forced divestment and loss of billions later?

Oh, 100% shareholders have to agree to a renegotiation. On both ABK and Microsoft's ends.

I don't know how much they're offer for ABK in such a renegotiation though. Definitely not $95/share. I'm guessing like $85/share instead?
 
Oh, 100% shareholders have to agree to a renegotiation. On both ABK and Microsoft's ends.

I don't know how much they're offer for ABK in such a renegotiation though. Definitely not $95/share. I'm guessing like $85/share instead?
They offered $95 when it was in the $60s, today it's $83 so they'd have to go higher if price was part of the negotiation.
 
It can absolutely be changed, but can it be changed without shareholder approval?

Would shareholders have agreed to a deal that could have closed day one but provided no checks to prevent a forced divestment and loss of billions later?
Shareholders will haver their money. They don't care. CMA problem will be on MS lap.

Imagine whole world approves and only CMA not. They will have a big pressure to let it go. If they make divest mandatory 1 year later MS will take this to trials again and will be on this for a long time with them operating ABK.
 
They offered $95 when it was in the $60s, today it's $83 so they'd have to go higher if price was part of the negotiation.

Oh :/. Then...ouch, MS are gonna have to potentially pay a lot more. Like $131.42 per share (if the premium they paid before ratio-wise held true renegotiating), or $95 billion.

At that point MS are just better off walking away from the deal and giving ABK the $3 billion breakup fee. COD nor any of ABK's IP collectively are worth $95 billion.

But it's Microsoft, they might just be brazen and stupid enough to go for it 😂
 
Why do so many people say stuff like "Activision needs this"? No they don't.
They are selling because od the scandal which people have already forgotten and they are making crazy money from sales.
Microsoft is the only one who needs this, and the GP lovers.
 
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