Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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adamsapple said:
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It looks like they dodged / avoided the issue of the CMA pause. I doubt that matters yet since that pleading was filed with original judge anyway. But would be nice for the judge to demand a response to that specific issue. If the FTC has the right to investigate mergers, how are they supposed to possibly investigate a proposed merger whose ultimate terms are apparently still unknown if they are negotiating to change the original terms????
 
Pelta88 said:
Every time the acquisition gets heated Ass of Can Whooping Ass of Can Whooping posts be like

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Like I don't understand the correlation, Any excuse to post some extreme sexual shit points at some real problems in real life. Dude needs to chill.
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You still havent seen his true form.
I would suggest you hide from him and Banjo64 Banjo64 , or else you will lose your innocense. Look at Varteras Varteras .
 
Heisenberg007 said:
Going by the responses/statements so far, it seems like this is exactly what MS must have offered to them. Or even just separating xCloud from GPU in the UK.

Now the CMA may or may not agree to it because their original decision was (1) divestment of Activision or (2) prohibition.

At this point, though, seriously, who the fuck knows!
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No way this is the only thing MS would need to do. Why wouldn't MS just had offered that up from the beginning to the CMA? Why lose and then offer cutting off Xcloud in the UK only?
 
The deal is done, we all need to move on, Sony now needs to keep tabs on all this so in ten years when MS has sewn up gaming, they can be party to a class action lawsuit against the US authorities for allowing this and MS for anti-trust.

Sony needs to start buying up other devs asap!
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
So they can't find any legal errors they just dont think she was right in her decision

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That's according to MS lawyers (in a standard argument if you are telling a judge they made a perfect decision). The FTC alleged a host of legal errors in their motion.

Edit - I see you edited. Never mind.
 
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Topher said:
Neither is the US.

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Ok....you meant they wouldn't be blocked in the US. However, FTC is not going to assume the CMA will successfully block the acquisition so naturally they are going to file the PI.
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I mean what can they block ? The deal to be approved in the UK ? OK cool and today I ate pasta and chicken for lunch. Meanwhile the deal is approved and will be effective in USA, Europe, Japan, S. Korea, Japan, Australia, Brazil...
 
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It is completely incredulous that Microsoft's lawyers could write such rubbish, when virtually everything in the denial order is wrong in the eyes of customers that actual know gaming and argue in good faith. But even then, do they have a different text for the Clayton Act to the one ChiefDada has cited?

Reading the act and the facts presented by the FTC - even done badly - is so far beyond the threshold for a PI, you have to wonder how anyone could deep down disagree with the FTC.

Hopefully the Ninth Circuit err on the side of least probability of reputational damage to their circuit and overturn the decision.

Unless I'm mistaken, if they find against the FTC, the FTC will just appeal to the higher court - out with merger timeframes - because the Clayton Act itself would be weakened by such precedence. Whereas if they find against Microsoft, an appeal to a higher court isn't happening because the clock runs out.

In the first scenario of the FTC losing, and it being eventually overturned by the US supreme court, Ninth Circuit would then look like they had no judges that understood and could apply the law correctly on anti-trust - would be my assumed conclusion - completely destroying the legal reputation of that circuit in the process. So it will be interesting if they factor something like that into their ruling, given I'm lead to believe judges fear being overturned and it damaging their career progression, and I image a group of judges being overturned is even worse. So backing the FTC is the safer option I would assume.
 
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LoveCake said:
The deal is done, we all need to move on, Sony now needs to keep tabs on all this so in ten years when MS has sewn up gaming, they can be party to a class action lawsuit against the US authorities for allowing this and MS for anti-trust.

Sony needs to start buying up other devs asap!
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It doesn't look good but until I see what's happening with the CMA I'm not convinced this is over yet.
 
PaintTinJr said:
It is completely incredulous that Microsoft's lawyers could write such rubbish, when virtually everything in the denial order is wrong in the eyes of customers that actual know gaming and argue in good faith. But even then, do they have a different text for the Clayton Act to the one ChiefDada has cited?

Reading the act and the facts presented by the FTC - even done badly - is so far beyond the threshold for a PI, you have to wonder how anyone could deep down disagree with the FTC.

Hopefully the Ninth Circuit err on the side of least probability of reputational damage to their circuit and overturn the decision.

Unless I'm mistaken, if they find against the FTC, the FTC will just appeal to the higher court - out with merger timeframes - because the Clayton Act itself would be weakened by such precedence. Whereas if they find against Microsoft, an appeal to a higher court isn't happening because the clock runs out.

In the first scenario of the FTC losing, and it being eventually overturned by the US supreme court, Ninth Circuit would then look like they had no judges that understood and could apply the law correctly on anti-trust - would be my assumed conclusion - completely destroying the legal reputation of that circuit in the process. So it will be interesting if they factor something like that into their ruling, given I'm lead to believe judges fear being overturned and it damaging their career progression, and I image a group of judges being overturned is even worse. So backing the FTC is the safer option I would assume.
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I'm guessing you are not from the US. https://www.pacificresearch.org/sup...circuit-highest-year-of-reversals-since-1985/
 
I think people here need to realize that there are alot of stuff going behind the scene.

UK block might not stop this deal, if MS makes a deal with them like closing the deal globally.

I would wait monday for final decision. That is our only outcome for this deal. Either it gets abandoned or MS closes it.
 
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SenkiDala said:
I mean what can they block ? The deal to be approved in the UK ? OK cool and today I ate pasta and chicken for lunch. Meanwhile the deal is approved and will be effective in USA, Europe, Japan, S. Korea, Japan, Australia, Brazil...
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And yet one major country can throw a wrench in the whole thing.

How was the pasta and chicken?
 
feynoob said:
I think people here need to realize that there are alot of stuff going behind the scene.

UK block might not stop this deal, if MS makes a deal with them like closing the deal globally.

I would wait monday for final decision. That is our only outcome for this deal. Either it gets abandoned or MS closes it.
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I don't think it gets abandoned. Something tells me Bobby's pull out game isn't that strong.
 
This thing is becoming heated like a world cup final match.
Is the FTC going to get a stay of the TRO in the next day?
They got the original TRO super quickly last month (the day after they asked it?).
But most importantly is Microsoft bluffing at multiple levels or they truly don't have a plan B past July 18th? Are they really going to try to bypass the CMA which they want to collaborate with at the same time? How are the two things compatible? The CMA's reputation would be trashed in the process.
 
Elios83 said:
But most importantly is Microsoft bluffing at multiple levels or they truly don't have a plan B past July 18th? Are they really going to try to bypass the CMA which they want to collaborate with at the same time? How are the two things compatible? The CMA's reputation would be trashed in the process.
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As fun as the FTC rollercoaster is, these seem to be the biggest questions right now.
 
feynoob said:
I think people here need to realize that there are alot of stuff going behind the scene.

UK block might not stop this deal, if MS makes a deal with them like closing the deal globally.

I would wait monday for final decision. That is our only outcome for this deal. Either it gets abandoned or MS closes it.
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there is only one. MS/Xbox NEEDS this acquisition.
 
You can't convince me these aren't paid to be so embarassing, and paying for a Twitter subscription as well to be so more people can see you be unhinged about videogames 😭

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Ms makes some concessions pays some fines, cma looks like they did something stood up and made ms play by there rules. Could the end be this anti climatic?
 
feynoob said:
Bobby wants that $400m. No doubt he wont leave.
The question is what will MS do?
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I don't think Bobby cares about the 400m. I think he wants to continue being the CEO of one of the biggest game companies in the world and the maker of the #1 game in the world. He has plenty of money he takes a helicopter everywhere he goes.
 
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