James Sawyer Ford
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Which, if true, raises a serious question of how the fuck a press outlet for Microsoft is privy to supposedly definitive negotiation details with an independent regulatory body?
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Which, if true, raises a serious question of how the fuck a press outlet for Microsoft is privy to supposedly definitive negotiation details with an independent regulatory body?
Ginzeen
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Sources. Inside sources. Thats what well know journalists usually have. Its pretty normal.....
NickFire
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I don't see the meaningful divestment. Under what was reported MS would still control content and what they charge the separate entity. Sounds like splitting hairs.
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Kilau
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I am trying to understand that myself. The cynic in mean says that while the CMA is willing to negotiate, they aren't near the end of that yet, but MS wants to get out there that it's handled so the 9th doesn't grant a PI in the US thinking "no harm" since it's still blocked in the UK for who knows how long.
Alex Scott
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TBH at this point I rather have this deal go through than not with or without CMA.
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Ginzeen
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UK controls their cloud market. Remember the deal was blocked because of the "cloud." Seems pretty meaningful to me.
Jigsaah
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OMG the "All hail Phil Spencer" had me crying. How have I not seen this before? HAHAHA
feynoob
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The question is why did CMA agreed with MS for talk, when they offered this.
It makes no sense, that the CMA will talk with them, if the offer is something like this.
It feels like CMA wants to reach a middle ground with this offer.
feynoob
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Everyone all around the world wants this to end.
Look at how many brothers and sisters who are locked in this thread.
You don't get this many people interacting in 1 thread. It's a like a jail at this moment.
Miyazaki’s Slave
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Kilau
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Chiggs
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I read a post on another site which was an analysis of the FTC appeal that speculated they're (as in the FTC) going to attempt to get Microsoft to make more commitments and then tell the judge they're fine with the deal. Now, I have *no idea* if any of that is true because I clearly cannot see the future, but if that does indeed come to pass, then that is activity that should have been done in the initial case; not in the appeals, since they wouldn't be negotiating from a place of strength.
If that's what ends up happening, it would make the current FTC, in my eyes, even more incomprehensibly ill-prepared than I imagined, since you'd--again-- want to negotiate from a place of strength.
Even funnier would be MS agreeing to the conditions, which would also reveal their (possibly significant) level of desperation. Though, you'd imagine they're feeling emboldened after what happened yesterday.
If that's what ends up happening, it would make the current FTC, in my eyes, even more incomprehensibly ill-prepared than I imagined, since you'd--again-- want to negotiate from a place of strength.
Even funnier would be MS agreeing to the conditions, which would also reveal their (possibly significant) level of desperation. Though, you'd imagine they're feeling emboldened after what happened yesterday.
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What is the difference between a proposed licencing remedy and "divesting cloud"? In the end it's still MS licensing it after the acquisition. Now legally could MS try and distance itself from its cloud lead with that proposal and have MS licensing to in a business they don't own? that's possible but as the CMA said it would likely need a new investigation into the proposal and I'm really not sure the CMAs stance is to get that done by Monday. It might appear like they are circumventing the decision while still having the "divested company" having the advantage.
Zannegan
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Oh, I don't know. I'm still enjoying the ride. As a fan of industry drama, this whole deal (from Kotick's PR nightmare up to today) has been a massive gift. So many twists and turns.
Alex Scott
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If they reach a middle ground ground, then they would have to do the same when others start acquiring major publishers and studios.
Can't favor one over the other. Otherwise you will seem biased and not impartial.
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StreetsofBeige
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Depends on what the term divesting means in this case.
Typically divesting means the company outright sells off something (a division, product line etc...) to another company to handle.
It's like Rogers Cable buying Shaw. It was approved, but one of the contingencies is they had to divest their Freedom Mobile division. So they sold it off to another company.
So maybe it means MS has to sell off UK cloud access gaming to another company?
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TrueGrime
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If this is the divestment that the CMA takes then it'll be funny as shit that they will be the only ones denying their country Xbox + Cloud advancements. Surely that's looking out for consumers, lol.
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Chiggs
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And it gets sold to Nvidia or Amazon.
What a win for hard-working consumers in Dear Old Blighty.
Yeah but it seems like it's just circumventing it. What would stop MS from offering better licencing agreements to the divested company which they would I assume then use for gamepass cloud access? Unless they want to remove xcloud completely from it.
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You can blame MS for being such dicks and not taking no for an answer. To the point where they drop their whole "we want more gamers to play, wherever they want to play" mantra to screw their customers just to get what they wanted; spending their competitors out of business.
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feynoob
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That ship passed away the moment they agreed to the talk.
You don't go back on your decision like that and have a talk with them. This action alone sets up a precedent for future cases.
James Sawyer Ford
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feynoob
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dibella360
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What officially is the largest thread on NeoGaf? I am really hoping we can get this to 2000 pages
mrqs
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Staruday.If the merger ends, my first action would be
Kilau
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What officially is the largest thread on NeoGaf? I am really hoping we can get this to 2000 pages
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StreetsofBeige
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Maybe. I dont know.
Aside from the act to divest, I dont know what kind of additional rules are typically added on to prevent the two companies from acting like one again. There might be additional clauses.
Varteras
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Let's hope this doesn't go that far lol.
The content wasn't the issue.
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MarkMe2525
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So MS are dicks for attempting to appease a governing entity's concerns? To be clear, we have no clear indication of what MS has proposed to the CMA. If it is indeed coming down to MS making a divestment of their ability to offer cloud versions of Activision games in the UK, are they really screwing their customers when the CMA are stating that these measures are protecting their constituents? Also, would this leave UK gamers with less options to play cloud versions of Activision titles than they currently have?
StreetsofBeige
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If that happened, I'd play some old COD games.
When I played World at War on Xbox One when it became BC the online community immediately spiked up to 20,000. When I was still playing it on 360, the user count had dropped down to maybe 3000 people.
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Varteras
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Go drunk, Bungie. You're home.
havoc00
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Just put anti cheat into the old cod games and id go back to playing black ops 1-2 and mw3 like 4 hours a day
ShaiKhulud1989
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Mass media already oversold CMA insider info before to the point of redacting it, so wait until Monday. My take is that CMA approval process will still take way more time that 4 remaining days.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yep, that happened earlier in the week. They put in the work to bring back the servers for the older games like World at War, OG Modern Warfer 2 etc.
Very likely in anticipation of those games getting a wider new audience when they land on game pass, if I were to guess.
havoc00
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Possibly but I really think both sides were talking this whole time no matter what public face both have put on.
Ginzeen
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why so mad?
HoofHearted
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havoc00
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And they still cant give us stable servers for MW2 lmao what a world. But I do hope if this goes through MS will put the newer cods and older popular ones like BO1 and 2 and MW3 on good dedicated servers and not the trash Activision has given us with those terrible tick rates etc...
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Should go back in that thread and count how many times "I/O" was used lolNext-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
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Varteras
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Is that what you got out of that?
My god. By far the most insufferable time of any generation is the very beginning. When every fanbase is at its absolute worst attitude, the most gullible, and most deluded.
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StreetsofBeige
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If the old MW2 came back I'd play it..... but only if they fixed the servers from modders. That game came out in 2009, but I played it on and off till when Xbox One came out. When I played old COD games years back it seemed they never fixed those really old games. God mode. 7 killstreaks called in the first 10 seconds. Unlimited RPGs etc... Or maybe they cant fix the old games???
But it seemed Black Ops 1 and after that the games seemed rock solid.
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bitbydeath
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Activision would be sold over Azure.
MS isn't letting that cash cow go.
havoc00
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Black ops 1 and 2 are pretty hacked as are most older cod games, even the newer ones can be lol
StreetsofBeige
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I was thinking the divestiture would be MS has to sell off any UK regional cloud gaming service feature. Like if it's technically possible to sell off one lego block out of a lego cloud tower.
StreetsofBeige
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That sucks. When I played BO1 on BC there were a lot of gamers playing too. I dont remember any hackers. But maybe it was due to the ratio of clean gamers, and I just missed them all by luck. I never tried out BO2 since I stopped playing in back then.
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