Pimpwerx said:
GC sold more worldwide.
For those asking what scenario I envision, it's the one where even a floundering PS3 still manages 5-6M units in Japan, which means the 360 then has to outsell the PS3 by 5-6M units here in NA, assuming a wash in EU. And that's the thing. EU should end up in favor of Sony, and not by a little (IMO). The Xbox sold poorly there, and I'm not certain the 360 is changing that to any great degree. Why are 360 LTD numbers so hard to nail down? Because MS has been awfully quiet about their EU sales. Moreso than Nintendo and Sony. But even given a wash, the utter failure in Japan will always be MS's weakness, b/c it means that even a middling performance by a competitor will result in a significant gain in the global install base.
But like I said, the PS3 is largely an unknown. It looks really shakey right now, but has time. I'm looking at the end of the gen anyway. After this year, it'll probably be pretty clear what the future will look like. The Wii is the only sure bet at this point IMO. PEACE.
Ok not only do I disagree with this idea that Sony will somehow suffer a different fate in Europe than it will everywhere else(as I have before it even launched...since last year) but leaked numbers from Europe are already proving this. It went from 165k units sold in the UK(probably the friendliest European market for the PS3 at launch judging by reports) to
17k by its
3RD WEEK. Does anyone care to take bets on where it will be by its 4th and 5th week?
But being from Europe, born and raised, I can assure you Europe is not some sci-fi dimension of people that act like a bunch of lunatic fanatics over anything Sony.
No. Europe is a pretty typical WESTERN market, very much like the US. It's preffered games are action games, sports games, racing games. It just happens to preffer a sport that's not American Football, but other than that....it's very much like the US market. It treats games like GTA, Halo, DMC, RE, PGR, GT, GRAW, COD relatively the same as the US. It's a typical western game market.
The reason Sony became as popular as they did in Europe while the others could not replicate their success of other territories in Europe, is the reason I've been trying to tell people a $600 console won't fly over there.....money. Unlike the US where the spoiled kids of middle America can easily get 2 or 3 consoles and support consoles like the Xbox and the GC alongside their PS2...in Europe that's not the case. There are a lot of gamers that can't afford that. And this is real. They have to pick one. Couple that logic with the wild success of the PS2, and it's almost like the other ones didn't exist.
But in reality, if you compare the original Xbox to the Xbox 360 from launch until now...it actually performed WORSE in the US(ignore the launch fiasco for a second) and JAPAN
and better in Europe. Going strictly by the numbers, you could say Europe has been the friendliest market for the 360. The original Xbox sold around 5 mil in its lifetime in Europe. The 360 should be closing in on 3 mil already. Oh....and unlike the original Xbox, the 360 didn't need a price drop ONE MONTH afer it came out to sell in Europe.
Edit: In short.... What is wrong with some of you and this Sonyland crap? Japan was Sonyland last gen too. So was the US. BRAND IMAGE and MARKETING? The reasons people throw out there for the PS3 outselling the 360 in Europe are the same type of reasons people were using to claim the PS3 was a lock in ALL next-gen market about a year ago. What happened to that type of thinking? It got owned my Media Create, the NPD and the people that simply won't spend $600 for a console when there's a cheaper alternative with the same games, and then some. What about games? Do you honestly believe Europeans will be blind to the fact that they can get their favorite games on the 360 for a cheaper price and then some, and simply buy Sony because Sony has figured out some way to brainwash them?
