Sebastian1295
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Btw the mods over at the Xbox reddit are removing this news whenever it's posted. Absolute clown shit of the highest level.
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SidViscous
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Ninja theory staff must be F5ing their gmail a lot today…
Felessan
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Content pipeline is different for live service games and require much more people (as content turnaround is much faster) and infrastructure team is big, very big for these games - on a scale of King it probably ten thousand or more servers. Also lots of people works on R&D and future games prototypes (90% of those never see the light).
It's 1000-2000 people for bigger games, like Mihoyo (5000+ for 3.5 games) and Riot (4000+ for 2 games), so having 2000 for 11 smaller games seems reasonable.
Judge Magister
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SEGAvangelist
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LordCBH
Member
Isn't the Xbox subreddit run by actual Microsoft people? I think they closed down the SeriesX subreddit and tried to move everyone to the Xbox one but most people just…didn't.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why do fans do this? What's the point of acting like reality doesn't exist?
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Or the MS executives are waving an empty warchest, demanding that Xbox Division fill it back up. It is only fair that Xbox pay back what they spent.
aliadiere25
Member
Understandable:
seething left
Member
I have failed to purchase shitty products. Guilty as charged.
jm89
Member
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
This has been the case for Xbox fans for years at this point. Objective reality doesn't exist.
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
Yeah well I'm not removing anything. This is exactly what you'd expect from a 1st party transitioning to 3rd party after cratering hardware sales. This isn't some Playstation layoffs thread. The systems literally aren't selling.
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LordCBH
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Sebastian1295
Member
They moved everyone over into one sub and the excuse was that it made things 'easier'. Their was a ton of backlash over it at the time and yet they ignored everyone did it anyway. It feels like they did it so they could control narratives.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Shitty products come from devs that have diversity and others that don't do diversity consulting.
Topher
Identifies as young
That's exactly what I hear when executives start talking about improving margins
GHG
Member
When you are getting clear and obvious signals (to add, over long periods of time) from the market that it doesn't want something to the degree that you need them to want it in order to ensure the sustainability and success of your business model, but you decide to continue (and continue to do the same things) regardless then yes, it does come down to your incompetence as a business owner when it fails.
But this is what happens when you envelop yourself in hubris, surround yourself with yes-men and manipulate your remaining fanbase in to being nothing more than an obedient cult. If you get rid of any avenues for negative feedback to enter your sphere of consciousness then it doesn't exist right?
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
The fact that they only cut 200 means important work that's keeping one of the biggest games around going.
Part of these emails is to convince everyone not laid off that things are fine and not to panic.
"The room's on fire, but don't worry. We had a fire extinguisher rep in here last week"
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its a losing cult,
ignoring reality is what cults do when their whole identity is crumbling
Sushi_Combo
Member
I'm assuming Aaron dodged another fat bullet today.
Sebastian1295
Member
It's why i hate 'nosodium' subs on reddit. It's complete cringe to ban other viewpoints if they don't align with yours.
What's mental is that
- in June 2020 MS had around 163k employees
- by December 2024 that was up to 228k employees.
-Since December to now it went up to around 237k.
-And now they are letting go of 9k.
In short, the tech industry is a dynamic where both a lot of hiring is done, and a lot of sudden dismissal is also happening. The latter, of course, is more shocking and draws more attention due to its human drama nature and immediacy.
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RetroGamingUK
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Rare decimated
www.videogameschronicle.com
Sources: Everwild has been cancelled as Xbox layoffs hit Rare | VGC
The original IP had been in development in some form for over a decade…
www.videogameschronicle.com
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
It looks like Rare is now nothing more than a Sea of Thieves studio.
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
PauloRoberto
Member
Of all video game business misteries, the fact that Nintendo nevere tried to buy Rare is one of them... :-D If DK is still knownn today, it's is because if Snes DKC trilogy, easily...Rare decimated
Sources: Everwild has been cancelled as Xbox layoffs hit Rare | VGC
The original IP had been in development in some form for over a decade…
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Very likely does mean studio closures. If I were to take a guess, it'll be Compulsion and inXile. The former spent 8 years to put out a mid game which performed poorly in sales and got little engagement. The latter's been stalled out for years on a game last seen in 2020, and by all accounts is likely cancelled. Neither studio really offers any technical strengths that could benefit other studios, so easy to cut them.
Ones who could be cut but I'm willing to venture will just be "moderately or heavily" gutted are: Turn 10, Halo Studios, Ninja Theory. Forza Motorsport's a redundant franchise for MS now but team members there can still contribute to Playground for the Horizon games. Halo Studios has already cut back some but I'm sure there are some other redundancies who can be let go. And Ninja Theory, quite frankly they just don't seem capable of making much of a genuine game; they're great at tech demos tho and have some strong technical skills that can be helpful with other studios, so I can't see them getting shut down. We just might not see a new actual game from them for a long time (if ever), and if we do, it'll be partnered with some 3P studio with a stronger track record.
Studio closures/layoffs-wise those would be my guesses. Although King already laid off 10% of their people, and that wasn't on my bingo card. So, we could certainly see some light layoffs from iD, Bethesda, Rare, Coalition etc. But probably nothing significant from those studios.
More curious about the hardware-related layoffs as that will tell a pretty telling picture as to how MS handle hardware manufacturing & distribution going forward.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
The 2020 version of Phil Spencer wouldn't believe what his 2025 alternate ego is planning to do.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
"Including its prototype phase, Everwild had been in development for over a decade, with anonymous developers indicating they had struggled to nail down a clear direction for the title, even after a recent reboot of the project."Rare decimated
Sources: Everwild has been cancelled as Xbox layoffs hit Rare | VGC
The original IP had been in development in some form for over a decade…
A decade
Edmund
is waiting for Starfield 7
Phil Spencer has two balls. You don't have to fight with anyone to suck his balls. You and
adamsapple
can have one each.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Btw the mods over at the Xbox reddit are removing this news whenever it's posted. Absolute clown shit of the highest level.
This has been up for an hour, you don't need to make stuff up, lol.
It's there,
Sebastian1295
needs glasses.
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
I wonder if all the people celebrating in the "DOOM The Dark Ages is a flop" thread are celebrating this too
LordCBH
Member
I don't think it'll be InXile. They JUST dropped that cool Clockwork trailer like two weeks ago. Ninja Theory is a more likely one I think
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Rare decimated
Sources: Everwild has been cancelled as Xbox layoffs hit Rare | VGC
The original IP had been in development in some form for over a decade…
NOBODY'S safe over there now. Nobody!
Also RIP Everwild; had a feeling that'd be gutted. Waiting to hear State of Decay 3's cancellation next.
Oh I didn't know that was their game. They might be safe then, but I'm still expecting SOD3 to get cancelled at this rate (if it hasn't already).
It'd be a bit sad to see Ninja Theory get axed, as they have a lot of technical proficiency with character animations and whatnot. But I am expecting heavy layoffs there and the studio probably being reformed into a support studio.
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HYDE
Member
Adamsapple definitely is
seething left
Member
Same goes for neogafs's purple miscarriage.
Sebastian1295
Member
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I will admit I do hate how all the media ONLY talks about the tech industry firing people, but never when they hire a bunch of folks. It feels like we are being manipulated.
digoutyoursoul
Member
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I just clicked it, its still up
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
mayham2199
Member
They just showed State of decay so I think they are safe. Everwild I don't remember seeing anything after the announcement.
NOBODY'S safe over there now. Nobody!
Also RIP Everwild; had a feeling that'd be gutted. Waiting to hear State of Decay 3's cancellation next.
Oh I didn't know that was their game. They might be safe then, but I'm still expecting SOD3 to get cancelled at this rate (if it hasn't already).
It'd be a bit sad to see Ninja Theory get axed, as they have a lot of technical proficiency with character animations and whatnot. But I am expecting heavy layoffs there and the studio probably being reformed into a support studio.
It's up for me.
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jm89
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Rare decimated
Sources: Everwild has been cancelled as Xbox layoffs hit Rare | VGC
The original IP had been in development in some form for over a decade…
They went from Rare to Well Done
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Sebastian1295
Member
When i click it it's up but the original poster deleted his account and the post isn't on the main xbox sub when you go look for it. It's no where to be found on the main sub.
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Rare decimated
Sources: Everwild has been cancelled as Xbox layoffs hit Rare | VGC
The original IP had been in development in some form for over a decade…
You just can't believe whatever Phil Spencer says.
Phil Spencer provides rare update on missing-in-action Xbox exclusive Everwild | VGC
Microsoft’s gaming boss says Rare is making progress, 3 years after its last reveal…
www.videogameschronicle.com
Speaking in a new interview with the Xbox Era podcast, Spencer claimed that the historic British studio was making progress on the game, and named it among his most anticipated projects currently being worked on at Xbox.
Asked to name the in-development games he's most looking forward to, Spencer answered: "I'll go back to what I said earlier. Yeah, State of Decay is just one of the franchises I love back from the original one, so that one stays on the board.
"I do think the work that Double Fine's doing and how Tim kind of solicits feedback from the team. And the other one, I'll say because I was recently out at Rare. It's nice to see the team with Everwild and the progress that they're making."
He continued in the Xbox Era interview: "It has been [a while]. And we've been able to give those teams time in what they're doing which is good and still have a portfolio like we have. It's like a dream that Matt (Booty) and I have had for a long time, so it's finally good to be there. We can give those teams time"
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"We can give those teams time" .... in the case of the Rare devs working on Everwild that was four and a half months.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Rare decimated
Sources: Everwild has been cancelled as Xbox layoffs hit Rare | VGC
The original IP had been in development in some form for over a decade…
It's clear RARE was better when they worked with Nintendo, compared to when Microsoft bought them in 2002. MS killed RARE.
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