Crayon
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Microsoft is eventually going to rule gaming
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The Windows Store cannot handle large files like games. It was originally designed for smaller apps. There are horror stories even here on GAF people detailing their issues with it. With PS4, Steam and from the outlook with the Switch; MS will not have a large portion of the pie as OP is claiming because they have been screwing up.
I'm guessing there are new thread faactory's in India. Just like the "like" factory's for Facebook.
Apparently you can buy "likes" from Facebook. Perhaps Microsoft buys new threads on neogaf?
Jk of course.
you know what I mean!
Glendemonium
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They had a great run last gen, only because Wii was underpowered and PS3 stumbled out of the gate with hardware that took devs years to get used to. 360 became my go to console for the entire gen after PS2.
All I'm going to say is... if Scorpio finds a way to integrate/partner up with Steam into it's machine (which would mean they shouldn't charge Gold... but this is MS they'll find a way to gate it behind Gold) it could give the PS4 a run for it's money.
In theory.
All I'm going to say is... if Scorpio finds a way to integrate/partner up with Steam into it's machine (which would mean they shouldn't charge Gold... but this is MS they'll find a way to gate it behind Gold) it could give the PS4 a run for it's money.
In theory.
So the strategy that they've been trying to accomplish polish since day one is suddenly going to work? A strategy that didn't take into account how we've changed our viewing habits (tablets and phones)?
The notion people will have one central device that does everything in the middle of their front room is so antiquated - and it's one of the reasons why the Xbone was such a disaster. Microsoft was still trying to execute on a decades old plan that no longer actually makes sense,
The notion people will have one central device that does everything in the middle of their front room is so antiquated - and it's one of the reasons why the Xbone was such a disaster. Microsoft was still trying to execute on a decades old plan that no longer actually makes sense,
They haven't integrated the two yet... how much longer do we have to wait ...
Mushroomer25
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The key word being 'eventually'.
It's true that right now, Microsoft has a very strong position in the gaming space. They've got a strong selling console, and a big upgrade coming this year. They've also got the entirety of the PC Gaming space wrapped up in Windows.
But ultimately, that only makes them a backbone to other players in the market. Attempts to get people to buy games explicitly through Windows 10 have been hampered by incredibly shoddy port and compatibility work (the fact they even sold a version of CoD that couldn't connect with Steam players was horrific), but are still building a library.
If Microsoft can make a service like Game Pass stick with consumers, they'll have the pieces in place for a phenomenal platform.
But judging by current performance, it's hard to say if they'll actually pull it off.
It's true that right now, Microsoft has a very strong position in the gaming space. They've got a strong selling console, and a big upgrade coming this year. They've also got the entirety of the PC Gaming space wrapped up in Windows.
But ultimately, that only makes them a backbone to other players in the market. Attempts to get people to buy games explicitly through Windows 10 have been hampered by incredibly shoddy port and compatibility work (the fact they even sold a version of CoD that couldn't connect with Steam players was horrific), but are still building a library.
If Microsoft can make a service like Game Pass stick with consumers, they'll have the pieces in place for a phenomenal platform.
But judging by current performance, it's hard to say if they'll actually pull it off.
Awhile still...
Oh yeah, it is just lackluster compared to linux and macOS. MS really dropped the ball.
Abilidebob
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Except for, you know, win32 applications and all the stuff I can do with them, the ability to install whatever I want however I want on my machine, and being able to buy my games and software from dozens of places instead of being locked to a shitty store that makes me download 250GB of GOW4 data.
Sure, just like a PC.
Nintendo is eventually going to rule gaming
With hybrids.
Their living room gaming hardware - it's totally separate from handhelds, a different division! Not a full console. It's got a totally different OS and games.
But then down the line, Ninty bridges the gap and combines the two.
Home console games on your portable system
A handheld undercover as a home console, with detachable controllers, a fully couch/handheld friendly Nintendo interface which communicates with all your devices, you can even voice chat and create lobbies with them. With everything you'd expect from a home console. All in one, slowly introducing a handheld to the living room through video games.
Who can compete with that?
With hybrids.
Their living room gaming hardware - it's totally separate from handhelds, a different division! Not a full console. It's got a totally different OS and games.
But then down the line, Ninty bridges the gap and combines the two.
Home console games on your portable system
A handheld undercover as a home console, with detachable controllers, a fully couch/handheld friendly Nintendo interface which communicates with all your devices, you can even voice chat and create lobbies with them. With everything you'd expect from a home console. All in one, slowly introducing a handheld to the living room through video games.
Who can compete with that?
Night.Ninja
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But op is still right
Insane Metal
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This thread reminds me of the eventual shills that showed up after XBone's reveal. Lol
No exactly that, just with a better gaming part to Microsoft learning heavily from what they did in Xbox and Mobile OSes.
Sony announces forfeiture of Playstation division after the announcement of the MS Scorpio.
Hasn't this been said for years...
Gai Murakumo
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Oh boy.
*Games will be cheaper guys!*
What A Time To Be Alive
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bait threads at an all time high
CJY
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Salient point. I don't ever see any "living room console hub" integrating tightly with both iOS and android, so without that, OP's vision of utter MS domination goes straight out the window. Unless he actually believes microsoft's strategy will help them loosen the duopoly of iOS/android in the mobile space
StriKeVillain
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FinaruDensetsu
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People say this this SonyGAF but I don't think I've ever seen a thread quite like this one for PlayStation.
Glendemonium
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I'll be real though, Crackdown 3 as a launch title will be pretty damn dope.
nephilimdj
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They will just do what google did, pay companies to put Windows on TV's.
Its anti-competitive, but seems like was fine that google did it and murdered a bunch of rivals
Google dominated, USA gov gets backdoors into every TV. win win
Its anti-competitive, but seems like was fine that google did it and murdered a bunch of rivals
Google dominated, USA gov gets backdoors into every TV. win win
Dargor
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Sega is eventually going to rule gaming.
With their master plan of leaving the gaming console space and leaving its place to an untried company, to thread the grounds for them while they bide their time planning in the shadows, for once again have their time in the sun.
It will start with the resurrection of an old beloved franchise, its third coming shall bring forth untold happines, using the money of thirsty fans and then, once all the pieces fall into place, they will reveal their one true console to rule them all.
With their master plan of leaving the gaming console space and leaving its place to an untried company, to thread the grounds for them while they bide their time planning in the shadows, for once again have their time in the sun.
It will start with the resurrection of an old beloved franchise, its third coming shall bring forth untold happines, using the money of thirsty fans and then, once all the pieces fall into place, they will reveal their one true console to rule them all.
Sounds like we are in agreement that it mostly comes down to the windows store, as opposed to how well the OS is geared for games.
MatthewB92
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They would rule only if it came with a steam app.
Angelus Errare
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Just gotta wait until Windows Phone takes off.
Abilidebob
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John Kowalski
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Dude there are heroes out there doing games for dead Sega consoles
No one will ever rule gaming
No one will ever rule gaming
It would I think. They can even partner with Samsung and Sony if they can't get their act together and release a good mobile OS and slick device.
Windows needed tablet support, and it needed to be better at gaming. They've spent money trying to learn how... surely it can't be that far off...they do like to move slowly though. If they wanted to be dominant they could restrict streaming to their devices.
Apple might try harder with larger games, they're behind there though.
He's not.
But op is still right
Chronospherics
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Personally I think the future of gaming as far as home consoles go, lies with more discrete implementations into existing devices, like televisions.
In the future, we'll reach a point where even ultra realistic graphics can be computed, in real time, on very tiny chips. Whether it's mobile, built into your TV, or running in the cloud, it won't make a difference.
I think cloud gaming doesn't have a significant future. The advancement of local computation and graphical progression will be more rapid than that of network infastructure, so there will never be a point in time where it will exist as the practical solution (this is something many anticipate, but I don't see it).
Instead, I see integration into TVs themselves, consolidating the hardware required for home entertainment, to be more likely. Smart TVs are achiving more and more, many can already play android games. When the tech is available for affordable, discrete GPU implementations, capable of ultra-realistic graphics, then why not partner with Sony or Microsoft to incorporate them into the TVs themselves?
Just thought I'd throw my own nonsense out there while we were at it. All speculation, but all in good fun.
In the future, we'll reach a point where even ultra realistic graphics can be computed, in real time, on very tiny chips. Whether it's mobile, built into your TV, or running in the cloud, it won't make a difference.
I think cloud gaming doesn't have a significant future. The advancement of local computation and graphical progression will be more rapid than that of network infastructure, so there will never be a point in time where it will exist as the practical solution (this is something many anticipate, but I don't see it).
Instead, I see integration into TVs themselves, consolidating the hardware required for home entertainment, to be more likely. Smart TVs are achiving more and more, many can already play android games. When the tech is available for affordable, discrete GPU implementations, capable of ultra-realistic graphics, then why not partner with Sony or Microsoft to incorporate them into the TVs themselves?
Just thought I'd throw my own nonsense out there while we were at it. All speculation, but all in good fun.
Well, as fate would have it, Phil's status appears
To be at an all-time high, perfect time for Sony to say goodbye
When Scorpio comes back like Jordan, wearing the 4-5
It ain't to play games with you
It's to aim at you, probably maim you
If Phil owe's you he's blowing you to smithereens (in 4K/60FPS)
Sony take one for your team
And I need you to remember one thing (one thing)
Phil came, He saw, He conquered
From record sales, to sold out stock
This holiday Scorpio will own the console block!
James Scott
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They've never been in first place so "ruling" seems unlikely for awhile.
However, the Play Anywhere idea is pretty solid, just need to fix the Pc store front to make it an appealing competitor to steam
However, the Play Anywhere idea is pretty solid, just need to fix the Pc store front to make it an appealing competitor to steam
Well I certainly would not say that, MS has a LONG road ahead. Sony has a near insurmountable advantage so far this gen, but I think Phil has his head and the Xbox division in the right place now and just because you lead at the start does not mean you finish in 1st. Just ask Sony last gen about how they came back from catastrophe...
geordiemp
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Mr X Media, is dat you or Mr C team as insider ?
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