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[Dusk Golem]

I'm sorry, but how in the hell can 36 years be considered 'centuries'?

I'm tired and meant to write decades. XD; My main point is most game platforms usually last half a decade, give or take. But it's hard to say PC has no games since it's accumulated a very large library over time as it's been in the market for decades and output has only increased for it over time. Given that many old PC games you need to jump through some loops to get them working on modern machines due to different infrastructures.

 

[wildfire]

I'm sorry, but how in the hell can 36 years be considered 'centuries'?

Videogames were born in the 50's, your main point notwithstanding.

 

[SRTtoZ]

I also remember when the XB1 was going to take living rooms by storm...and then fast forward, Kinect and TVTVTV/SPAWTS is dead and MS is about to release a newer console.

 

[Head.spawn]

I'm sorry, but how in the hell can 36 years be considered 'centuries'?

My Steam backlog can likely be measured in centuries.

I'll count it.

 

[yukianderson]

Lol this is just too epic.

 

[Japanmanx3]

I can't pick which gif to react with:

etc. etc. etc.

 

[Makikou]

PC has no games.

 

[DECK'ARD]

OP is going to bump this in 10 years time from his Windows Box and laugh at you all.

 

[Arulan]

Really??? I dot think Valve will survive in the future. SteamVR will likely loose its lead to Microsoft and the same with Steam, Microsoft can change the PC architecture and force native games to Windows Store. They can have the capability to do that move.

Valve's ecosystem relies on X86-64, without it Valve is useless and we all know that X64 without the x86 extension will likely be gone in the future. Judging on how Microsoft and Intel really want to get rid of X86 and start clean with a pure X64 implementation.

It never ceases to amaze me how some people actively support authoritarian practices by companies and agendas designed to remove customer rights.

 

[smashballTaz]

Fringe!

(sorry)

 

[ghostjoke]

OP sounds like what MS have been telling themselves for the past decade or two (three?) in carefully moderated groups without any form of outside dissension.

Just because it runs Windows (or a form of it) doesn't mean it would easily be able to capitalise on the pros of what make PC and console gaming good for their respective situations. The foundations might be there, but Microsoft are the last company to seize upon it in a way that doesn't end up devaluing everything to mediocrity.

I'm sorry, but how in the hell can 36 years be considered 'centuries'?

I know it was an error in the original post but technically, things like Tabletop simulator gives access to centuries old games in large quantities. Relating back to the topic, it would be a shallower experience if it was released in a Microsoft dominated gaming space.

 

[Josman]

Just reading the thread for the GIFs, OP is probably dead by now anyway

 

[Rhaknar]

thread was worth it just to discover this wonderful gif

 

[CariusD]

It never ceases to amaze me how some people actively support authoritarian practices by companies and agendas designed to remove customer rights.

I also don't know where people get the idea that MS would or even could do that. There is a reason why they don't force everyone to use IE for instance. And if they kill Steam they would have to kill Tencent which is even bigger fight they certainly don't want to do if they want to exist in China at all.

 

[Echoplx]

PC has no games.

Hmmm

 

[joecanada]

Hmmm

Boy that Wiiu crying in the rain gif really does apply anywhere

 

[General Lee]

You could do this already with any HTPC. Any benefit for MS to create a dedicated system to do this would be to remove any upgradability and further push Windows Store. Steam won't make them any money, so the only benefit would be the number of games, and most people don't care for mouse&keyboard on their sofas.

But in theory, if MS would make the next Xbox with gaming PC level hardware in terms of performance, but more affordable and mostly a fixed and custom hw system, they could potentially offer that as replacement for the current desktop to most consumers that don't need the customization possibilities a normal tower PC has. Keep the system itself in the living rooom, and stream a desktop to any monitor for normal PC m&kb use with full Windows. In the living room they could tap into all PC games and Steam, and push Windows Store further. It would make sense imo, but MS doesn't really do things that make sense. If they'd consider something like this, they'd probably offer a limited Windows with no Steam just to push their Store instead. And of course implementing this kind of scheme might be problematic from a security standpoint since hackers would be all over it trying to enable piracy on the Xbox side.

 

[12Dannu123]

It never ceases to amaze me how some people actively support authoritarian practices by companies and agendas designed to remove customer rights.

Agreed, like I said, Valve isn't really a good competitor, just pointing that out.

If they actively supported SteamOS then they would have had a chance, but it's now too late. They definitely have been short sighted in what Microsoft can do to them.

 

[Durante]

Valve's ecosystem relies on X86-64, without it Valve is useless and we all know that X64 without the x86 extension will likely be gone in the future. Judging on how Microsoft and Intel really want to get rid of X86 and start clean with a pure X64 implementation.

What?

No, seriously, what?

None of this makes the least bit of sense.

 

[GraveRobberX]

I can imagine an Amazon game console.

Beat the boss without taking damage for free shipping on your next Amazon order!

Targeted ads all over the place.

"You have beaten the game or platinum/100%, would you like to trade it in for amazon credit!?"

"Please leave a review, please!"

"Get Prime, get free DLC*"
*DLC that was pre-order bonus, if you missed out

 

[MiloHoffman]

With Windows.

Their living room gaming hardware - it's totally separate from MS, a different division! Not a PC. It's got a totally different OS and interface.

But then down the line, MS bridges the gap and combines the two.

Windows 10 on your Xbox One 0

A PC undercover as a games console, with replaceable parts, a fully couch/handheld friendly Xbox interfaced part of Windows. Which communicates with all your devices, and can even stream to them. With everything you'd expect from a PC. All in one, slowly introducing a PC to the living room through video games.

Who can compete with that?


-Edit: Apple? They're behind the ball with bigger games. Windows always needed mobile support and to be better with games, and they made separate interfaces and OS and spent money learning how...

It makes sense to combine that at some point.

 

[aliengmr]

Really??? I dot think Valve will survive in the future. SteamVR will likely loose its lead to Microsoft and the same with Steam, Microsoft can change the PC architecture and force native games to Windows Store. They can have the capability to do that move.

Valve's ecosystem relies on X86-64, without it Valve is useless and we all know that X64 without the x86 extension will likely be gone in the future. Judging on how Microsoft and Intel really want to get rid of X86 and start clean with a pure X64 implementation.

I don't think you understand how the PC games ecosystem works. MS does to a certain extent, which is why they haven't done this.

Do you have any idea of the shitstorm this would create? Nevermind that it makes zero sense, but just the act of MS walling off PC gaming, do you understand at all what would happen?

Agreed, like I said, Valve isn't really a good competitor, just pointing that out.

If they actively supported SteamOS then they would have had a chance, but it's now too late. They definitely have been short sighted in what Microsoft can do to them.

Ahhh so you were joking. I thought you were serious for a second there, but no one is that dumb, lol.

 

[Sho Nuff]

How long have you been enjoying your new job in Redmond?

 

[-Amon-]

Great thread, thank you gaf

 

[The_Endgamer]

This is what Microsoft has been trying to do since day 1 and still hasn't happened.

Steam is Microsoft's biggest hurdle here. Balancing the Steam mentality of purely downloading games and the beneficial avoidance of manufacturing costs compared with alienating Microsoft's retailers will be Microsoft's biggest problem into the future.

Targeting Microsoft to be a Steam like console is great for Microsoft. Not so much for retailers.

They want to resell those games on over and over.

 

[akira28]

PC has no games.

how can you say this? I have over 300 games taunting me. daring me to get engaged they can soak up my time. do you know how stressful it is to be a master of games? and you come along and tell me my problems don't exist. oh how I wish you were correct, sir.

 

[12Dannu123]

I don't think you understand how the PC games ecosystem works. MS does to a certain extent, which is why they haven't done this.

Do you have any idea of the shitstorm this would create? Nevermind that it makes zero sense, but just the act of MS walling off PC gaming, do you understand at all what would happen?

Ahhh so you were joking. I thought you were serious for a second there, but no one is that dumb, lol.

True it would create a shitstorm, but what can Valve do?? Microsoft has the power to select which stores can operative in a post X86-64 world. IF it were to get to this point, I do think that for gaming stores, Microsoft will select stores that are closed stores like Origin, Uplay, Battle.net and not open stores like Steam.

 

[thekiddfran]

 

[ffvorax]

Until they keep the W10 store so bad they will never have and advantage.

They could try to be a steam machine, but also that failed for now....

So...? :\

The point are the games as always, Nintendo and Sony have brands that people like, what does M have to convince a customer to buy their console?

 

[qko]

A Windows 10 console would mean a MASSIVE shift in Microsofts philosophy toward software. I know many corporate bosses who dislike all the gaming related add ons and Microsoft is not going piss off the one market they still have a near monopoly over gamers.

Not gonna happen.

 

[GraveRobberX]

Has X1 ever did a humble bundle yet?

Sony games have been I think 3 times allowed to be sold on there
Even when MS could make a huge splash to be ahead of the system, Sony is embracing it more than them

 

[funkystudent]

Has X1 ever did a humble bundle yet?

Sony games have been I think 3 times allowed to be sold on there
Even when MS could make a huge splash to be ahead of the system, Sony is embracing it more than them

A humble windows store bundle isn't the worst idea in the world if they had the right stuff in the deal.

I would entertain that idea.

 

[Popsickles]

Albert! Is that you ??

 

[ramparter]

Xbix doesnt even allow a game like Team Fortress 2 to be released on it with free updates, user content, payable contents etc etc + keyboard and mouse support. Im not saying I like everything Valve has done to TF2 but as long as the platform doesnt allow a publisher do what they wont we arent getting anywhere.

 

[Deleted member 125677]

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