Microsoft making at least four new IPs

I don't see GAF as especially pro-Sony, there's always been lots of criticism against all three first parties.

Yeah it's like people all of a sudden forgot the first ~3 years of this generation. Last I knew it wasn't 360 who was in the "has no game" joke comic.
 
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All will be forgiven. Resurrect PGR.
 
Yeah it's like people all of a sudden forgot the first ~3 years of this generation. Last I knew it wasn't 360 who was in the "has no game" joke comic.
Year of the PS3, Secret PS3 Game, etc.

Yeah, it's bollocks really. There are people who certainly favor specific platforms, but for the most part, people seem to call out shittiness, regardless of their preference of box.
 
I think tunes will change once they show off the new system. Here is to hoping at least a couple of these games turn heads as well.
 
Its funny how GAF is not Pro Sony or Pro Nintendo when there are thousands of threads dooming Vita and Wii U, but it is when it compares them to MS apparently. Shows how people only claim some things when its convenient for them to do so.
 
It's kind of funny to see people defending Microsoft. They've earned the lack of trust over new IP's. The last new core IP they published was Alan Wake in 2010, and before that you have to go back to 2008 to find stuff like Lost Odyssey and Too Human. And the list for Kinect based IP's is fairly decent long, even if a lot of those games are based on existing non-gaming properties.

They have done a decent job bringing out new stuff on XBLA, but those aren't AAA or even AA titles. So people are justified in their skepticism.
 
So lets start discussing instead of bickering, eh?

One IP that I loved...but I don't think was exclusive, but I might be wrong...was the Outfit. Fantastic two player mode. I wonder if we'll ever see any WWII games anytime soon.

I was thinking more about what they see as their rivals key games/genres and what they can do to beat it.

1) Uncharted/Last of Us. A big cinematic action game for next-gen consoles? I am sure MS must be thinking up something like Uncharted but for 720. Like Uncharted was, they are great games to showcase fancy tech. Maybe they will moneyhat 1313 or possible Samaritan becomes that type of game?

2) Zelda. MS never really had a good rival to Zelda. Maybe Fable was supposed to be that but they starting moving in a very weird direction with it.

3) F-Zero/Wipeout. Time to bring back Extreme-G! I know they tried making their own sci-fi racer but they never have the same stick as F-Zero and Wipeout did.
 
no, I blame those who shit up every single thread with the exact same posts. it's frankly making discussing microsoft in any light other than a negative one virtually impossible. I understand people might be frustrated with microsoft's first party output of late (which I don't agree has been as bad as people claim it has been), but that's really no reason to enter a thread and do nothing beyond show their arse and then leave knowing that you've successfully shat the thread up.

I saw this thread, and for just a second I was excited. I thought 7 pages means we must have some juciy info and what do I find? 7 pages of people showing their arses.



exactly. it's frankly putting me off even entering threads about microsoft any more. how can one have a productive discussion when you're pounced upon for daring to show a shred of optimism for their upcoming console and games.



that's months away and I really didn't want to say anything but I came back to see this thread and got excited that we finally were about to get some juicy info on some new IPs and instead it's seven pages of shit.



if there's nothing to contribute beyond 'lol kinect', 'lol gold', 'lol abandoned core gamers', 'lol ads' don't bloody post.



that's bullshit and you know it.
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Its funny how GAF is not Pro Sony or Pro Nintendo when there are thousands of threads dooming Vita and Wii U, but it is when it compares them to MS apparently. Shows how people only claim some things when its convenient for them to do so.

there's a difference in critizicing and cynical responses to what should be positive news to those who are a bit bummed out about MS's direction.
 
If MS E3 2013 surprises... It won't end well for some of the people posting in this topic.
I think ppl will downplay it whatever happens. There will always be a reason. For example say all xbox have Kinect 2 and the game happens to use Kinect 2 in parts. . . ppl will trash it no end. Even if it's really good.

Before this thread it was a 'MS has no 1st parties' shit fest (no wonder considering the current output) now apparently they have 'something' - and it's a 'dudebro kinect' shit fest.
Merely highlighting things like this gets you called a butthurt fanboy with a persecution complex from what I've read.
 
Its funny how GAF is not Pro Sony or Pro Nintendo when there are thousands of threads dooming Vita and Wii U, but it is when it compares them to MS apparently. Shows how people only claim some things when its convenient for them to do so.

Vita doom threads have only come about after it became clear that the system had tanked - GAF was nothing but positive about the vita prior to the release of the initial sales figures, after which it would be stupid to label the vita as anything other than a colossal failure.

Microsoft haven't had any commercial failures on that scale, yet are met with the same amount of enmity and hostility.
 
A FPS, a TPS, a Racing and a RPG and then milk them for all the generation.

The only games MS can make.

Actually, Banjo Racing or something in a similar vain to Diddy Kong Racing would be awesome. I am guessing they may have missed that boat with Sonic Racing, LBP-Karts etc already out.
 
Its funny how GAF is not Pro Sony or Pro Nintendo when there are thousands of threads dooming Vita and Wii U, but it is when it compares them to MS apparently. Shows how people only claim some things when its convenient for them to do so.

It's really just about what attachment you have to a company or console, then you all of a sudden start seeing it as everyone out to get your favorite.
 
Year of the PS3, Secret PS3 Game, etc.

Yeah, it's bollocks really. There are people who certainly favor specific platforms, but for the most part, people seem to call out shittiness, regardless of their preference of box.

I remember that, but it never really shat up threads to the degree all that the kinect, ads, casuals, gold chatter does.

still, let's move past that and try to salvage this thread.
 
Vita doom threads have only come about after it became clear that the system had tanked - GAF was nothing but positive about the vita prior to the release of the initial sales figures, after which it would be stupid to label the vita as anything other than a colossal failure.

Microsoft haven't had any commercial failures on that scale, yet are met with the same amount of enmity and hostility.

This. Though I wouldn't say "GAF" in general is pro-sony, it's just the group that is pro-sony is either the largest or at least the loudest.

It's really just about what attachment you have to a company or console, then you all of a sudden start seeing it as everyone out to get your favorite.

That's absolute bull. So this excuses people to automatically dismiss something they know nothing of? As it stands now, I'm not even planning on picking up MS' next system and I still think it's been disgusting here lately regarding the attitude for anything surround their next system.

It's asinine that people would make an excuse for irrational behavior.
 
If they can deliver on the Milo demo aspects of Kinect that would be pretty cool I think.

Having a truly dynamic conversation with NPC's in say Fallout 4 would be really cool. Coupled with the Oculus Rift this would be epic win IMO.
 
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oh really? Nice, glad Sega picked them up!

I was thinking more about what they see as their rivals key games/genres and what they can do to beat it.

1) Uncharted/Last of Us. A big cinematic action game for next-gen consoles? I am sure MS must be thinking up something like Uncharted but for 720. Like Uncharted was, they are great games to showcase fancy tech. Maybe they will moneyhat 1313 or possible Samaritan becomes that type of game?

2) Zelda. MS never really had a good rival to Zelda. Maybe Fable was supposed to be that but they starting moving in a very weird direction with it.

3) F-Zero/Wipeout. Time to bring back Extreme-G! I know they tried making their own sci-fi racer but they never have the same stick as F-Zero and Wipeout did.

I don't think MS is going to money hat a ton of games for the next gen... I think they're going to leverage more out of the "entertainment" side of things and would rather build strong new IPs that they outright own.

I think they have the racing side covered with Turn 10, but if I had to guess some sort of RPG would probably be a good bet, unless its kinect stuff.
 
I think the next step for Kinect is to split it up into two(or even three) cameras at two(to three) separate viewing angles to allows it to pick up more movement and have a clearer picture.

Did you even read my post?

Yes I did I still stand by what I said and I'm not just referring to you.

There is so much assuming in this thread you'd think the thread title is "What's on Patcher's Mind at this Very Moment!"
 
I think ppl will downplay it whatever happens. There will always be a reason. For example say all xbox have Kinect 2 and the game happens to use Kinect 2 in parts. . . ppl will trash it no end. Even if it's really good.

that's really is a problem around these parts, there's no room for optimism. i thought the first page will be full of happiness and joy that finally MS is at least introducing new IP's for the nextbox. A thing that were unsure of given their strategy at the end of the 360's lifecycle. but no, people scream kinect this kinect that and ps4 blows nextbox away in terms of power. trying to downplay other unrevealed consoles or wii u because its already the year of the ps4.

are people here from the future? lets shit on MS or Sony or maybe Nintendo after they've shown what they have for this year.
 
The first two Xboxs launched with a PGR. It will feel weird the new one launching without one. I don't see it launching with a Forza game, and those Lucid guys are working on something...
 
Well Resistance, Killzone, Uncharted...they came close

Hey Uncharted isn't a shooter!

...it's not like you have to shoot a gun to beat the game.... oh wait......

The first two Xboxs launched with a PGR. It will feel weird the new one launching without one. I don't see it launching with a Forza game, and those Lucid guys are working on something...

Why do you not see it launching with a Forza title? If Turn 10 keeps up with their development cycle they'll have even extra time before Xbox 720 launches than they usually do, Forza Motorsport 5 is most definitely a launch title.
 
Its funny how GAF is not Pro Sony or Pro Nintendo when there are thousands of threads dooming Vita and Wii U, but it is when it compares them to MS apparently. Shows how people only claim some things when its convenient for them to do so.

GAF is hyper critical and does a good job at jumping on the shortcomings of all 3 consoles. If you start questioning whether GAF is pro/anti any platform, it might be you who has the agenda.

That said, this is good news but its not like Microsoft has instilled trust in recent years. With the exception of Horizon, their recent output has been fairly stagnant. Hopefully they start off next generation the same way they started off the 360.
 
I don't hope for them to fail, but only because competition is good. All I'm stating is that their past efforts inspire zero confidence.

Microsoft has an awful record when it comes to first party/second party development. They pissed Bungie off. They shut down several studios. And their past efforts include Blinx, Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Azurik, Kakuto Chojin, Brute Force, etc. They bought and ruined Rare by having them make avatars, for example. Gamers have zero reason to believe in them and it's Microsoft's own fault.

You mean that past efforts of taking every single 3rd party game that was bound to be exclusive to the Ps3 and made it so it was available on their console too?

Ms last gen didn't just had to develop their own games, they also had to bring games that were a given on Ps3.

And they did this while publishing some of the best games of this generation.

I honestly cannot see how that a company that fought all the way to bring every possible content to their console does not inspire confidence.
 
The first two Xboxs launched with a PGR. It will feel weird the new one launching without one. I don't see it launching with a Forza game, and those Lucid guys are working on something...
I thought Forza was a given? They will have had a 2ish year dev cycle by the time Durango is out.
 
GAF leans towards Sony, that's perfectly fine, so don't expect miracles. Before this thread it was a 'MS has no 1st parties' shit fest (no wonder considering the current output) now apparently they have 'something' - and it's a 'dudebro kinect' shit fest.

Trolling in disguise becomes just a bit more obvious.

MS is damned if they do, damned if they don't.

You should check out some of those Vita threads... Or PS3 threads from 2007... GAF leans on the company that actually delivers some core games and that has been Sony for couple of years now. It's not that hard to understand when you consider that this is GAMING forum.
 
I don't see GAF as especially pro-Sony, there's always been lots of criticism against all three first parties.

this. all fanboys are defensive though

I shit on all MS/Sony equally. I haven't played a Nintendo console since 64 so I can't comment on them.
 
That's absolute bull. So this excuses people to automatically dismiss something they know nothing of? As it stands now, I'm not even planning on picking up MS' next system and I still think it's been disgusting here lately regarding the attitude for anything surround their next system.

It's asinine that people would make an excuse for irrational behavior.

I was excusing nothing and saying a theory for why people think everyone is out for their system.
GAF is hyper critical and does a good job at jumping on the shortcomings of all 3 consoles. If you start questioning whether GAF is pro/anti any platform, it might be you who has the agenda.

That said, this is good news but its not like Microsoft has instilled trust in recent years. With the exception of Horizon, their recent output has been fairly stagnant. Hopefully they start off next generation the same way they started off the 360.
completely agreed.
 
GAF is hyper critical and does a good job at jumping on the shortcomings of all 3 consoles. If you start questioning whether GAF is pro/anti any platform, it might be you who has the agenda.

That said, this is good news but its not like Microsoft has instilled trust in recent years. With the exception of Horizon, their recent output has been fairly stagnant. Hopefully they start off next generation the same way they started off the 360.

I didnt start the Anti Pro argument. I was actually just trying to prove how dumb it is. -_-
 
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