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[Microsoft] New Year, New Rewards with Xbox
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Are you talking about converting Gold or Core to Ultimate? That is not a 'trick', that's officially sanctioned conversion.
And I don't see why that would get you banned from Rewards.
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coffinbirth
Member
It was if you weren't a new sub. This was considered a violation of the ToS to Microsoft Customer Service when he inquired, hence the ban once the trial period ended. You know, the one they CLEARLY outlined.It was never a trick/exploit, how do you think anyone even found out about it, MS literally put it in their terms and conditions outlining exactly how the gold > game pass conversion worked.
No he didn't get banned for that, nobody has.
What is unclear is if it gets lifted once the three years is up.
Ask him yourself, his gamertag is POOPBALLS
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Their terms said nothing about "new subs", in fact the entire wording for the conversion was "If you’re already an Xbox Game Pass or Xbox Live Gold member, any days remaining in your membership(s) will be converted to Ultimate using a conversion ratio"
The 1$ trial also doesn't even show up for users if it doesn't apply to them.
So yes your friend did something else that was ban worthy, converting gold to ultimate isn't and never was.
El Muerto
Member
I wish they got rid of the search cooldowns. I would manually do all my searches and still got hit with the 4 searches per 15min cooldown. No where in the terms does it say how or why you get the cooldown even when doing legit searches.
Also, if you randomly got banned it's because of a system error.
Also, if you randomly got banned it's because of a system error.
coffinbirth
Member
Yeah, and then you take a look at the actual ToS, and what does the second sentence read?
Their terms said nothing about "new subs", in fact the entire wording for the conversion was "If you’re already an Xbox Game Pass or Xbox Live Gold member, any days remaining in your membership(s) will be converted to Ultimate using a conversion ratio"
The 1$ trial also doesn't even show up for users if it doesn't apply to them.
So yes your friend did something else that was ban worthy, converting gold to ultimate isn't and never was.
"Promotional offers may be for new members only and/or not be valid for all members and are only available for a limited time"
Microsoft Customer Service told him he violated the ToS. He doesn't use chat, exploit, use a Cronus, etc. He doesn't even own a pc, so no .bat script shit, etc. And this was years before the erroneous system error bans. He literally bought an Xbox just for Forza Horizon 5, and at the time was the only game he was even playing.
Normally I'd agree with you, and suggest something else got him the ban, but it's literally what he was told.
Badlucktroll
Member
Cant wait to cash in my $3.25 gift card that took 4 years to finally get!
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Gold to ultimate conversation is not a promotional offer, and it's impossible for new users because it only applies to people that have active gold time obviously.
And again, the 1$ offer doesn't even show up if you can't use it on your account, so your friend did some other shit, no way around it.
coffinbirth
Member
Getting it for $1 was.
If you read the ToS it even indicates that it is a promotion, and thusly subsequent months are full price. (That bit is irrelevant though, as it's about the terms of the monthly price, not the actual conversion.)
Xbox Subscriptions Terms & Conditions | Xbox
www.xbox.com
Anyways, I'm sick of repeating myself. Either you believe me/him or you don't, I don't really give a shit either way.
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coffinbirth
Member
I didn't say it made sense.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
What part of it not showing up for a user if it doesn't apply?
Sounds like your friend went looking for a promo code somewhere and manage to apply it somehow; I say somehow because if it detects you aren't eligible, it won't even allow you to redeem the code.
So again, your friend did some fuckery.
coffinbirth
Member
I was able to get $1 GamePass multiple times, I reupped twice with it. This is technically against ToS, as I quoted in the post above. If that's fuckery, then sure....but that's what I've been saying all along, and others insist this was no "trick/exploit'. Was the "not showing up" for previous subscribers bit broken? Or not originally part of the terms? Keep in mind this was over two years ago now.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Don't care about rewards so much. They could actually release the Game Pass family plan to Australia though, that would be a nice little saving.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Then you were eligible, simple, not all promos are created equally, some do indeed work for lapsed users; the promo will not work if it doesn't apply, it will just flat out refuse to redeem.
ManaByte
Member
I have over $6 right now from just December.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I’m glad I can finally earn a weekly play on PC bonus. Even with the daily reward being halved, it’s still 100pts extra per week.
VanCityGamer
Member
Yup same, I’m good until Dec. 20, 2027. Thanks entirely to the Rewards program. I’ve had Game Pass pretty since the start and have never paid for it.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
It does look like 150 for console and 150 for PC from what I can see this morning on the console when I go to rewards however the Game Pass app on Windows doesn't seem to show a rewards tab yet.
panda-zebra
Member
That last part looks like Europe might consider something in this scheme to be somehow gambling-related, something's got them worried about crossing a line at least.
Anyway, love how these schemes are painted as a means for users to get kickbacks for just naturally doing what they're already doing while simply promoting loyalty and reinforcing engagement in return, but they're functionally a play-to-earn meta game designed to develop long term behavioural patterns while constant fluffing engagement numbers - don't worry, it's purely coincidental that top execs get to meet bonus payment targets far easier when you're clicking away every 15 minutes and firing up any old dogshit game you'd never normally touch just to say you have and so they can see you have and ++ an number to prove it. Wonder if the conditioning is as compelling (addictive) for some as my mate who's been reprogrammed some shit world building mobile game he "plays" to basically plan his entire day around cooldowns and boosts (along with spending thousands over the years, obvs).
I get why people would willingly partake if they're stuck at a desk all day on someone else's time, there's no shame or blame for "taking advantage" or gaming it... but burning your own free time for pitiful virtual currency dropsies? Nah, it's got the whiff of all the fun and positivity of an Axie Infinity scholarship's peon/master relationship. *cracks whip*
Xcell Miguel
Gold Member
Finally no need to get an achievement almost every day to finish the monthly quest, now I just need to play games I like and I'm not forced to play some games just to get achievements.
Now if only Diablo IV PC was counted toward PC games being played that would be nice as it's on Game Pass but for now it never counted, not even "Play a game on PC".
Now if only Diablo IV PC was counted toward PC games being played that would be nice as it's on Game Pass but for now it never counted, not even "Play a game on PC".
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Isn't it cause you're basically using the Battle.net launcher and not game pass itself to play?
You can just use any random game like Donut County and for it
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Also, new reward are up in the hub and I'm pleasantly surprised to see the PC streak is separate from consoles, I thought they would be stingy and merge them together.
Now, it'll be interesting to see if the multipliers apply to both, if that would be the case, that's pretty good.
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Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Its a significant downgrade. 350 monthly bonus for playing 8 games. 1000 pt bonus is gone. Weekly streak is total of +100. X4 weeks is +400. Weekly bonus for me this week is 175. So Im guessing this multiplier is like +25 pts.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The blurb says x4, so it would logically be 150x4.
Surprised to see your weekly is 175, mine is 150. Odd.
Xcell Miguel
Gold Member
I play mostly Diablo or Indiana Jones currently on PC, sadly Diablo has to be launched through Battle.net (which is liked to my Xbox account and is launched when I launch the Xbox App), but it's not counted either as a PC game nor a Game Pass Game.Isn't it cause you're basically using the Battle.net launcher and not game pass itself to play?
You can just use any random game like Donut County and for it
If I don't play Indiana Jones I'll just launch Solitaire Collection on PC and let it run for 15 minutes or even do a few games.
When I could not start a game on my console or PC just to get the old "Play a Game Pass game" quest, I just had to start Solitaire Collection on my phone and it counted as a Game Pass game.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
There's a reason Little Kitty Big City was my third most played game of the year in 2024 lol, very small size, light weight and quick to launch. Just start it and let it sit for 15 mins while I'm off making breakfast or something.
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Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
I get 150 plus 25 bonus for being a GPU member so 175 - isn't yours the same?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No, the weekly's show 150 for me for both PC and Console separately
But I do have a new multiplier table at the bottom.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Check on the console.No, the weekly's show 150 for me for both PC and Console separately
But I do have a new multiplier table at the bottom.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
They have Amazon giftcards.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
To be fair - I think its changed today along with everything else. I used to get the extra 25 on day 5 and its only day 2 for me so will let you know.No, the weekly's show 150 for me for both PC and Console separately
But I do have a new multiplier table at the bottom.
EDIT: checked on console, still 175.
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Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
The interface on console looks nice atleast. Shows the game icons filling up your list of 8.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FYI, Xcloud games work for the 4 and 8 game rewards, a pretty quick and convenient method for GPU subs.
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