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[Physiognomonics]

Now that Sony don't do any meaningfull SP games since 2020, they are dependant on 3rd party publishers...

This is great for Xbox and I am all for it. We need a strong Xbox.

 

[poppabk]

This console will be for someone who wants to upgrade to PC gaming(wise decision) but does not want to leave their Xbox library behind that they've built up over multiple generations.

Or someone like me - who only plays on PC - but wouldn't mind having their main gaming PC back but still wants something capable hooked up to the main family TV.

 

[onQ123]

 

[Crayon]

Seems like a lot of effort to gently transition your remaining customers to steam.

Seriously, the marching orders that you are playing ps games on Xbox (take that, ponies!) is music to Gabe's ears. Phil is one dumb motherfucker.

 

[nial]

Now that Sony don't do any meaningfull SP games since 2020, they are dependant on 3rd party publishers...

This is great for Xbox and I am all for it. We need a strong Xbox.

I love my daily delusional P Physiognomonics takes.

 

[poppabk]

Seems like a lot of effort to gently transition your remaining customers to steam.

Seriously, the marching orders that you are playing ps games on Xbox (take that, ponies!) is music to Gabe's ears. Phil is one dumb motherfucker.

It will allow them to put gamepass front and center which is all they care about really. Wouldn't be surprised if they find a way to have a message pop-up saying 'this game is available free with a gamepass subscription' when you try and buy a game on steam.

 

[Bry0]

I think he's spot on. The pieces all finally come together to form a coherent strategy. Personally I think this is a very interesting idea.

 

[mayham2199]

Now that Sony don't do any meaningfull SP games since 2020, they are dependant on 3rd party publishers...

This is great for Xbox and I am all for it. We need a strong Xbox.

Sony has always been dependent on 3rd party publishers. I swear some of you don't seem to understand what the point of a platform holder is. 53% of all the revenue for PS store is from like 10 GAAS games. They just announced this info last week or earlier this week I forget when that presentation was. You know who else is dependent on 3rd party software devs? Apple with their Iphone. Why do you think Apple is fighting so hard to stop 3rd party devs from avoiding their 30% fee?

Understand something. At no point in Sonys history have they been able to sit back and make more money off their own software compared to what 3rd party is bringing in. The first party software is simply there to give you a reason to choose their ecosystem over the competition. Then they money hat a few 3rd party games and next thing you know you have no reason to choose anyone else over them. Now you are buying all your games 3rd or first party off their store and they rake in the money.

 

[Crayon]

It will allow them to put gamepass front and center which is all they care about really. Wouldn't be surprised if they find a way to have a message pop-up saying 'this game is available free with a gamepass subscription' when you try and buy a game on steam.

I don't think a few million $600-$1000 handhelds are going to do much for gamepass.

You've seen reinvigorated xbox diehards talking about how they are going to be playing sony''s exclusives on the next "xbox". We're going to hear more of it. It's coming from the mutual xbox cope network. MS is leaning into it. They are actually going to encourage these guys to go make steam accounts just so they can pretend sony didn't win. It's got Phil written all over it. He's allowed clouded fanboy judgment to steer him down one wrong path after another.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

I don't think a few million $600-$1000 handhelds are going to do much for gamepass.

You've seen reinvigorated xbox diehards talking about how they are going to be playing sony''s exclusives on the next "xbox". We're going to hear more of it. It's coming from the mutual xbox cope network. MS is leaning into it. They are actually going to encourage these guys to go make steam accounts just so they can pretend sony didn't win. It's got Phil written all over it. He's allowed clouded fanboy judgment to steer him down one wrong path after another.

The main draw of multi storefront is Steam itself not just Sony ports. Sony PC ports of which are various states ranging from ass to good as far as port quality. The best way to play PlayStation games is on PlayStation, the PC offerings quality have been often mediocre. I don't know how much that changes in the future. Even Sony seems to be wavering a bit on PC future.

If you want to play the most consistently refined versions of PlayStation games you get a PlayStation. Nothing changes with this in that regard, the main draw is other storefront options with Steam being front and center.

Sony fanboy crowd losing their minds of this here. If you want to talk about the Xbox future hardware roadmap here that's fine, if you want to bitch about how stupid Xbox is that's fine too, there is a thread for that too.

Thread 'Xbox-PC, Xbox Prime etc tend to transfer the tradicional 'xbox' consumer base to the PS6, Switch 2'

Jun 20, 2025

In the last few days we were surprised by the announcement of a new line of products, the open Xboxes. Pessimism and cautious curiosity have been the thermometer of the discussions, semantics aside, it's clear to us that it is a PC with an 'Xbox' logo and design. This approach is not new to us, Valve did it in 2014 and some problems are unavoidable, such as the subsidy issue that weakens the price x performance balance compared to a traditional console and the lack of exclusive games.

The true test of fire for the Xbox brand was done in 2016 with Microsoft simultaneously launching its...

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[poppabk]

I don't think a few million $600-$1000 handhelds are going to do much for gamepass.

You've seen reinvigorated xbox diehards talking about how they are going to be playing sony''s exclusives on the next "xbox". We're going to hear more of it. It's coming from the mutual xbox cope network. MS is leaning into it. They are actually going to encourage these guys to go make steam accounts just so they can pretend sony didn't win. It's got Phil written all over it. He's allowed clouded fanboy judgment to steer him down one wrong path after another.

Im assuming there will be more than just handhelds - gaming laptops, some kind of console equivilant etc.
You have been able to 'play' Playstation games on an xbox ever since it got moonlight.

 

[Crayon]

The main draw of multi storefront is Steam itself not just Sony ports. Sony PC ports of which are various states ranging from ass to good as far as port quality. The best way to play PlayStation games is on PlayStation, the PC offerings quality have been often mediocre. I don't know how much that changes in the future. Even Sony seems to be wavering a bit on PC future.

If you want to play the most consistently refined versions of PlayStation games you get a PlayStation. Nothing changes with this in that regard, the main draw is other storefront options with Steam being front and center.

Sony fanboy crowd losing their minds of this here. If you want to talk about the Xbox future hardware roadmap here that's fine, if you want to bitch about how stupid Xbox is that's fine too, there is a thread for that too.

Thread 'Xbox-PC, Xbox Prime etc tend to transfer the tradicional 'xbox' consumer base to the PS6, Switch 2'

Jun 20, 2025

In the last few days we were surprised by the announcement of a new line of products, the open Xboxes. Pessimism and cautious curiosity have been the thermometer of the discussions, semantics aside, it's clear to us that it is a PC with an 'Xbox' logo and design. This approach is not new to us, Valve did it in 2014 and some problems are unavoidable, such as the subsidy issue that weakens the price x performance balance compared to a traditional console and the lack of exclusive games.

The true test of fire for the Xbox brand was done in 2016 with Microsoft simultaneously launching its...

• Geometric-Crusher
• Replies: 114
• Forum: Gaming Discussion

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Yes, steam at large is the issue here. MS is going to be heavily encouraging steam use, in the case of Sony games because console warring is so deeply ingrained in that culture.

But it will also be for modding as a deflection from the win store sucking, for key sales to gloat about pricing, for social features, etc etc.

They'll be able to salvage some small amount of their console users from switching to ps6, but of those, most are going to end up steam users. At best, insisting on using the Xbox front end to launch their steam games and telling themselves they have an xbox.

 

[Crayon]

Im assuming there will be more than just handhelds - gaming laptops, some kind of console equivilant etc.
You have been able to 'play' Playstation games on an xbox ever since it got moonlight.

That's true but moonlight is not a comprehensive replacement for the entire Xbox ecosystem that is better in practically every way. That's the problem with inviting steam.

 

[DntMesArnd]

I see this working well for the Epic game store. Most PC games seem to prefer Steam, but there are a lot of console gamers who are not aware of it (probably the non-hardcores, not here..).

If the epic game store has a few good free games, could draw a lot more business for them.

 

[Fake]

If I would guess, the silence from Sony was their mix reception with PSSR.

Make me wonder if they gonna push PSSR for PS6 or if they gonna drop PSSR in favor of a colaboration with AMD FSR.

 

[Clear]

Yes, steam at large is the issue here. MS is going to be heavily encouraging steam use,

I highly doubt that's going to be the case.

If they wanted that, all they'd need do is create an Xbox app to sell on Steam and call it a day!

The mission's the same as ever: They want all of gaming. Mobile, console, PC all connected via their software and especially their services.

 

[Crayon]

I highly doubt that's going to be the case.

If they wanted that, all they'd need do is create an Xbox app to sell on Steam and call it a day!

The mission's the same as ever: They want all of gaming. Mobile, console, PC all connected via their software and especially their services.

It's not be their intention to drive their console users to steam, but it'll backfire. Watch steam be everyone's favorite thing about their new xbox.