Microsoft: Next Xbox will work even when your Internet doesn’t

No, it will use HDMI pass thru which requires the cable box to be around. It will just allow the content to be pushed through the system at which point they can overlay new menus and stuff. Should also allow for DVR functionality.

Interesting, thanks!
 
It appears Microsoft is still in damage control mode. From what I get out of that is that it will now be tolerant of internet outages but sounds like people who are in the military or at a school that won't allow the 360 thru their firewall are still sol if they can't connect at all.
 
It appears Microsoft is still in damage control mode. From what I get out of that is that it will now be tolerant of internet outages but sounds like people who are in the military or at a school that won't allow the 360 thru their firewall are still sol if they can't connect at all.


damage control from what??

pastebins and great piece of journalism from vgleaks?....cmon pls


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dat damage control
 
It appears Microsoft is still in damage control mode. From what I get out of that is that it will now be tolerant of internet outages but sounds like people who are in the military or at a school that won't allow the 360 thru their firewall are still sol if they can't connect at all.

there is no damage control, lol.
 
"There are a number of scenarios that our users expect to work without an Internet connection, and those should 'just work' regardless of their current connection status. Those include, but are not limited to: playing a Blu-ray disc, watching live TV, and yes playing a single player game."

And in small print:

"Unless our third party developers feel otherwise......"

I'm still not convinced. The fact that MS has now apparently addressed this internally means there was/still is fire near this smoke......
 
damage control from what??

pastebins and great piece of journalism of vgleaks?....cmon pls

I assume from the media blitz. I still think it was a bad idea to wait this long.... and still no public response. Even if they announce "no always online" then say but no used games etc. people will still have a much more negative outlook on things. I think they should have nipped it in the bud right off the bat.

Either way we will never know the truth about the Nextbox's always online. Wish there would be a "behind the scenes" after launch so we know how close these idea(s) came to fruition.
 
And the share button was leaked way, way before the conference. So he's flat out wrong.

A rumor said there would be a share button. Then it was said there wouldn't be one. Then it said there would be. Then finally another that said there definitely isn't one. Finally the picture of the controller appeared and there it was. If this Utopia you purport to exist in which Sony employees all work hand-in-hand sharing info, there never would have been any confusion over the existence of the share button. Fact remains, Sony works in secrecy like most every big corporation releasing new products does. It's intelligent.
 
Still a rumor, but if it's true it sure would be interesting to go back and read all the negative threads about the next Xbox and always on connections.
 
I assume from the media blitz. I still think it was a bad idea to wait this long.... and still no public response. Even if they announce "no always online" then say but no used games etc. people will still have a much more negative outlook on things. I think they should have nipped it in the bud right off the bat.

This might have been a very, very last minute change due to the overwhelmingly negative reaction MS was getting regarding the always online drm. I think it was probably their intent all along and "had" to change it. We shall see. I'm not convinced. I hope I'm wrong. I love my 360 but won't put up with always online drm/blocking of used games crap.
 
I assume from the media blitz. I still think it was a bad idea to wait this long.... and still no public response. Even if they announce "no always online" then say but no used games etc. people will still have a much more negative outlook on things. I think they should have nipped it in the bud right off the bat.

Either way we will never know the truth about the Nextbox's always online. Wish there would be a "behind the scenes" after launch so we know how close these idea(s) came to fruition.



well its obvious why MS didnt say anything, either they had hardwear issues or they needed to up their specs after hearing what PS4 would offer. This would mean a delay in launch etc.
 
It's a pretty popular opinion on here and it's one I share. They've already raised the price once. What's stopping them from doing it again? It's not a matter of what, it's a matter of why not?

So a positive thread about Microsoft possibly not going always-online as many feared is now about Microsoft is definitely going to raise the price of XBL. Does good news about Microsoft really make you this salty? Good god.
 
Still a rumor, but if it's true it sure would be interesting to go back and read all the negative threads about the next Xbox and always on connections.

This is non-news. It was already said that always-on internet will be up to developers.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/report-drm-decisions-on-next-xbox-will-be-left-to-publishers/

This statement:
"There are a number of scenarios that our users expect to work without an Internet connection, and those should 'just work' regardless of their current connection status. Those include, but are not limited to: playing a Blu-ray disc, watching live TV, and yes playing a single player game."

should actually say this:

"There are a number of scenarios that our users expect to work without an Internet connection, and those should 'just work' regardless of their current connection status. Those include, but are not limited to: playing a Blu-ray disc, watching live TV, and yes playing a single player game that does not have the always-on internet requirement which will be up to developers. Some single player games will require internet, however."

This report is non-news and just a PR spin to make people forget about the fact that some single-player games will indeed have online requirements. Just look at the language in there. They didn't say all single-player games. They said a single player game.
 
And in small print:

"Unless our third party developers feel otherwise......"

I'm still not convinced. The fact that MS has now apparently addressed this internally means there was/still is fire near this smoke......

Here's the thing: there's nothing stopping a third party from enforcing this anyway, and especially ones that are influential and sell a lot on the host platform. At the end of the day, the third party is the one who will dictate how accessible a game can be. The platform holder isn't going to do major things that they aren't going to agree with. They're fully complicit, and for their own titles that would require it, solely to blame.
 
This is non-news. It was already said that always-on internet will be up to developers.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/report-drm-decisions-on-next-xbox-will-be-left-to-publishers/

This statement:


should actually say this:



This report is non-news and just a PR spin to make people forget about the fact that some single-player games will indeed have online requirements. Just look at the language in there. They didn't say all single-player games. They said a single player game.

Indeed.

Considering the precedent set by Diablo 3 and Simcity's rampant successes, we're going to get a good amount of singleplayer and multiplayer merging into a seamless, cohesive experience.

Unfortunately, we are sacrificing personal control over the final product for this. It's irrelevant whether or not Microsoft makes the console always-online, if a significant amount of AAA-games decide to adopt it.
 
This report is non-news and just a PR spin to make people forget about the fact that some single-player games will indeed have online requirements. Just look at the language in there. They didn't say all single-player games. They said a single player game.

well, the rumor that everyone complained about was that this would be enforced through the console, as opposed to a per-game basis.

A random single-player game having online requirements is obviously still possible, and I'm sure there would be plenty of those to complain about. But obviously, that's something that's possible on literally every single online-capable console, not some secret Durango exclusive feature.

At most, MS may have a some kind of "easy to use" flag that the developer/publisher can set to enable this functionality. But ultimately, that's still a per-game thing. Unless you're saying MS should specifically make a TCR requirement to make it forbidden or something?
 
Not sure if it's been posted yet, but a mod should edit the thread title. This information isn't directly from Microsoft and should be considered a rumor.

That being said, I still hope it's true. But it's rumor nonetheless until Microsoft outright says so.
 
It would have come out now because the policy just got changed, and they want the good news dripping out before the conference.

What policy change? That's speculation. NDA is real. The info looked like a PR statement. The control leaks theory makes perfect sense. Either way, it's out there and we all know what it says
 
I assume from the media blitz. I still think it was a bad idea to wait this long.... and still no public response. Even if they announce "no always online" then say but no used games etc. people will still have a much more negative outlook on things. I think they should have nipped it in the bud right off the bat.

Either way we will never know the truth about the Nextbox's always online. Wish there would be a "behind the scenes" after launch so we know how close these idea(s) came to fruition.

i think thatIF ms or sony wanna block used games...they will never do this at first iteration of the console....

they can do it after via software.....when the gen is already started and ppl already bought some millions of consoles..is useless to put no used games in the first year of the console...

the always online things...is a bs big as one of the berlusconi villa.......

of course u need to be always online ..to use certain function.......ehm like netflix (lol)

now talking seriously .....we r like the 0.1% of the ppl that will buy a console .i mean ppl that pass time in forum talkin about future specs and features...

after the announce day 21 ...if the console will be a shit.....ppl will no buy it
if the console will be a beast....will win the generation

all this rumors....dosnt mean really nothing
 
Still a rumor, but if it's true it sure would be interesting to go back and read all the negative threads about the next Xbox and always on connections.

Why? People hate the idea of an always on connection. Those people aren't suddenly wrong just because it's (supposedly) not happening.
 
Not sure if it's been posted yet, but a mod should edit the thread title. This information isn't directly from Microsoft and should be considered a rumor.

That being said, I still hope it's true. But it's rumor nonetheless until Microsoft outright says so.

The information is from an internal memo. That's as close to "directly from Microsoft" as we're going to get.

You're concerned that the report has been fabricated or embellished. While that may or may not be true, the source of the information is absolute.

It isn't developer conjecture or publisher hearsay...it's direct, quotable information.
 
i think the second one...99% of the sites...and the only who r in posses of real leaks....will be saved saying....WAS OLD LEAKS....

And I'm 99% sure the "always online" leak was true and MS changed it just recently because of all the backlash when word got out. Anyone giving MS the benefit of the doubt is just being foolish.
 
I'd still like them to say that officially but that's as pretty close to an answer as you're going to get about this subject without an official word.

Maybe some people will back off the ledge now.
 
well, the rumor that everyone complained about was that this would be enforced through the console, as opposed to a per-game basis.

A random single-player game having online requirements is obviously still possible, and I'm sure there would be plenty of those to complain about. But obviously, that's something that's possible on literally every single online-capable console, not some secret Durango exclusive feature.

At most, MS may have a some kind of flag that the developer/publisher can set to enable this functionality. But ultimately, that's still a per-game thing. Unless you're saying MS should specifically make a TCR requirement to make it forbidden or something?

No, it was already reported that always-on internet was going to be up to publishers. The rumor about it being enforced universally by the console was already debunked.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/report-drm-decisions-on-next-xbox-will-be-left-to-publishers/

Polygon cites unnamed sources in reporting that the next Xbox will indeed support an Internet requirement, but publishers will be able to decide how it is used with regard to DRM on a per-game basis. According to the report, current Microsoft guidelines will allow publishers to choose between requiring a constant Internet connection, performing a one-time check when the game starts up, or simply not implementing any Internet-based DRM at all.

Today's "news" is not news. It's just a PR spin from Microsoft.
 
The information is from an internal memo. That's as close to "directly from Microsoft" as we're going to get.

You're concerned that the report has been fabricated or embellished. While that may or may not be true, the source of the information is absolute.

It isn't developer conjecture or publisher hearsay...it's direct, quotable information.

Says Ars. There's nothing in the article to prove that claim.
 
And I'm 99% sure the "always online" leak was true and MS changed it just recently because of all the backlash when word got out. Anyone giving MS the benefit of the doubt is just being foolish.

Not half as foolish as people that claim one rumor is definitely true and another is definitely false.

Today's "news" is not news. It's just a PR spin from Microsoft.

Not seeing a PR release from Microsoft today about this subject.

ahhaahah ...when i seen this photo the first time i laught hard ( is correct laught?)

No, 'laughed'. You damn foreigner.

Kidding, your English is quite good.
 
Says Ars. There's nothing in the article to prove that claim.

The point is, it's Microsoft's PR making that claim, as transmitted via a third-party source.

Whether or not this transmission is 100% accurate is irrelevant to the thread title.

"Rumors" are delegated to third-party hearsay or second-hand information---"I believe that... I heard that..."
 
And I'm 99% sure the "always online" leak was true and MS changed it just recently because of all the backlash when word got out. Anyone giving MS the benefit of the doubt is just being foolish.

i really dont think that a company change their plans reading n4g and some other site
 
The point is, it's Microsoft's PR making that claim, as transmitted via a third-party source.

Whether or not this transmission is 100% accurate is irrelevant to the thread title.

"Rumors" are delegated to third-party hearsay or second-hand information---"I believe that... I heard that..."

The Ars article says that this is an internal memo. I work in an office building, and I can guarantee that PR speak isn't transmitted as an 'internal memo', ever.

This article is rumor, clear as day.
 
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