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An increasingly ebullient Microsoft is privately confident that PlayStation 3 will slip from its vaguely mooted "spring 2006" launch, with some suggestions that, at least in Europe, Sony's machine may not arrive until 2007.

Sony has been tight-lipped about its plans for PlayStation 3, confirming no launch schedule apart from "spring 2006". Many pundits believe the company's best case scenario is for a spring launch in Japan followed by North America later in the year, as well as Europe at around the same time.

However, Xbox's UK boss Neil Thompson told Brit trade paper MCV, "I'd be happy to compete whenever they turn up, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's not until spring '07. If they hit Christmas '06 (in Europe) then maybe it'll be a very thin launch; a launch in name only".

Friday's edition of MCV also quotes a "senior European publisher boss" as saying he "wouldn't be surprised" if PS3 did not arrive in Europe until spring '07, giving Microsoft two Holiday seasons in Europe. If such a date were true, it's difficult to see a PS3 U.S launch any time before Fall 2006.

Microsoft has evidently decided to make hay, at Sony's expense, while the media is focused on Xbox 360. J.Allard said, "There's a big gap between what Sony claims and what they've shown. They'll need an eight hour press conference pretty soon just to give people confidence in that spring '06 date they've mentioned."

He scoffed at a lack of playable demos of PS3 games, "There's a lot of stuff they just don't have in place yet. They make nice movies though." Xbox's global chief Robbie Bach said, "Whatever they do, they're going to be chasing us for a long, long time."

Sony has been quiet in the last few weeks, evidently resigned to allowing Xbox 360 its high profile pre-launch window, before rolling out details of its own plans.
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Microsoft has evidently decided to make hay, at Sony's expense, while the media is focused on Xbox 360. J.Allard said, "There's a big gap between what Sony claims and what they've shown. They'll need an eight hour press conference pretty soon just to give people confidence in that spring '06 date they've mentioned."
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He scoffed at a lack of playable demos of PS3 games, "There's a lot of stuff they just don't have in place yet. They make nice movies though." Xbox's global chief Robbie Bach said, "Whatever they do, they're going to be chasing us for a long, long time."
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I can't wait for the day that the PS3 will outsell the Xbox30 cause I will laugh so hard!
 
I've believed all along that Sony would launch November 2006 at the earliest. But I wouldn't doubt a slip to Spring 2007 for both the US and Europe.

Sony just has too many technical hurdles to overcome in order to ready the PS3 for mass-manufacturing at a price point that won't cause the company to hemorrhage money in a way that would make Microsoft's money-loss on the Xbox look puny by comparison.
 
Haha lol, "next gen is worth waiting for" now that's a rich statement. I guess you think people will actually "notice" a difference in graphics between these two consoles? I think there's a less chance of that happening then there was with SP2 and xbox this gen.

Anyway, this is nothing more than PR talk, but I've always had my doubts about the launch times Sony has given. I was already expecting a a PS3 launch closer to fall 2006 just so they could have software ready.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if it comes to Europe in 2007.
Q1-Q2 2006 Japan, Q3-Q4 America, Q2 2007 Europe. Is my launch prediction.
 
In my opinion, it ain't going past Fall 2006. There's no way Sony would give up Holidays like that, especially in the face of the completely legitimate threats of 360 and Revolution. That's not how you win console wars and continue to be consistent.
 
This isn't really about PS3. We should rather be discussing M$' apparent lack of confidence in its own product. Of course with what has been shown thus far who can blame them?
 
nubbe said:
I wouldn't be surprised if it comes to Europe in 2007.
Q1-Q2 2006 Japan, Q3-Q4 America, Q2 2007 Europe. Is my launch prediction.
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I think so too. But, if they're smart enough, they should consider to privilege USA and exit there before Japan. USA is much more important, and the japanes gamers won't feel too much screwd if they'll get the console some months later.
 
cybamerc said:
This isn't really about PS3. We should rather be discussing M$' apparent lack of confidence in its own product. Of course with what has been shown thus far who can blame them?
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Why are you writing M$? At the very least, we should be giving equal love to all consoles! P$3, M$, Revolution$.

Or better yet, that shit is lame and dumb and you should probably stop.
 
No surprise here. The industry pretty much coughed 'bullshit' in E3 for the "Spring 2006" launch anywhere but Japan. The machine should be entering mass production in December / January to ensure sufficient stock globally, and I just don't see that happening.

That said, whenever Sony decides to launch, they'll do just fine against Microsoft. Their marketing and PR remains to be matched by none, and it wouldn't surprise me if they'd manage to spin Xbox 360 to vastly inferior in the mind of the average consumer.
 
Amir0x said:
Why are you writing M$? At the very least, we should be giving equal love to all consoles! P$3, M$, Revolution$.

Or better yet, that shit is lame and dumb and you should probably stop.
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Didn't you know that MS was all about the money and that Sony and Nintendo were non-profit organizations!?
 
Ultra Magnanimous said:
Theres not a chance in hell that PS3 will slip to 2007. Sony have too much riding on playstation.
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In Europe...judging by Sonys previous efforts i wasnt expecting it before 2007 here anyway.
 
i dont think it'll get delayed, but if you thought the 360 launch was rushed.. just wait till you get a load of PS3.
 
Amir0x said:
Why are you writing M$? At the very least, we should be giving equal love to all consoles! P$3, M$, Revolution$.
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The Revolution one doesn't really work. Here, lemme have a shot at it:

Revul$ion. See? All better.
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
I hope it doesn't get delayed. I want it for GRADUATION!!!

Sony, I'll buy your crappy launch titles and love it!! FANTAVISION 2 PLEASE.
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Unlike the last time out, I don't think Sony can risk releasing their new console with a craptastic lineup like that again. Not with competitors with their own next-gen hardware and software out for direct comparisons to be made. Sony pretty much destroyed Sega's momentum in the DC with the PS2 hype-storm and had more than a year and a half to worry about the first releases of Ninty's and MS' consoles...plenty of time to get up to speed with the architecture and 'truly next-gen' titles by then. This gen's shaping up to be less in Sony's favor quite easily, IMO.

I still see Japanese spring/summer launch, with a North American launch in the fall/winter and Europe not long after.
 
Haha lol, "next gen is worth waiting for" now that's a rich statement. I guess you think people will actually "notice" a difference in graphics between these two consoles?
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I think we can safely say PS3 will display much better graphics. Its not like as if its less powerful than xbox 360 somehow.
 
With a decent price drop on PS2 and a steady pace of new games, any chance the PS2 will outsell XBox360 until PS3 launches? Sorry if this is way too far fetched or anything, just a random thought outta my ass... But if PS2 hardware sales can stay on top as they always have, that's one more reason for Sony not to rush PS3 to the market.
 
DSN2K said:
Delay >>> rushed launch
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QFT.

Even if PS3 and Xbox 360 have exactly the same amount of horsepower, I'd much rather have a firm and solid manufacturing process in place without having to make ANY cuts to chip yields in retail product, which Microsoft has already had to do. It's a standard that you have to stick to for years, and seeing a product hit when it's ready is just as important.

Besides, I don't think there's much of an argument that the American market is ready for a new bout of consoles. (The next gen might temporarily resuscitate the Japanese market, but this is the next Xbox, so that's out). [Before someone corrects me, yes, I'm absolutely certain that Microsoft's extremely limited shipments will initially sell out to the hardcore in NA/EU regardless of the state of the larger market. I just suspect that Spring and Summer sales before Rev/PS3 hit will be unimpressive]
 
I think the comments Microsoft have made sucks balls... They could have acheived the same thing by playing up the fact that X360 is releasing earlier, rather that trying to dump on their competitors.
 
I hope it's not going to be Fall 07 for european PS3! And honestly, I don't think it will be. Sony is not that stupid, they can't give X360 that much of a headstart.

For some people the X360 launch lineup may not seem very "next-gen" (not my opinion though), but I'm sure in about half a year we will see AAA games with outstanding graphics, never seen before.

The hardware is impressive and very capable.
 
I think we can safely say PS3 will display much better graphics. Its not like as if its less powerful than xbox 360 somehow.
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You must be new to this game otherwise you would know most people (customers) couldn't tell the difference between a PS2 and a Xbox this gen. Some were smart enough to know the Xbox had a harddrive but that was it. Most thought you still needed a memory card to save games on the Xbox before they learned what the hard drive was for.

So NO the consumers (most) won't be able to tell the difference from a Xbox 360 and PS3. Sorry to inform you and thanks for playing.
 
WULFER said:
You must be new to this game otherwise you would know most people (customers) couldn't tell the difference between a PS2 and a Xbox this gen. Some were smart enough to know the Xbox had a harddrive but that was it. Most thought you still needed a memory card to save games on the Xbox before they learned what the hard drive was for.

So NO the consumers (most) won't be able to tell the difference from a Xbox 360 and PS3. Sorry to inform you and thanks for playing.
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Do you have a poll to substantiate your claim that most consumers could not tell the difference between a PS2 and Xbox this gen? Or is this just terribly anecdotal hyperbole meant to try to illustrate a painfully narrow point?
 
WULFER said:
You must be new to this game otherwise you would know most people (customers) couldn't tell the difference between a PS2 and a Xbox this gen. Some were smart enough to know the Xbox had a harddrive but that was it. Most thought you still needed a memory card to save games on the Xbox before they learned what the hard drive was for.

So NO the consumers (most) won't be able to tell the difference from a Xbox 360 and PS3. Sorry to inform you and thanks for playing.
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Actually they do. Just like PS2 was more powerful than DC and Xbox was more powerful than PS2.
 
cybamerc said:
Next gen is worth waiting for.
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funny line but a true one none the less.

i see ps2 games i want until next fall, so i can wait as long as sony feed me quality titles. i still think ps3 will be out by end of next year though, in all regions.
 
Amir0x said:
It's coming out later, it's going to be more powerful. How much, who knows? But there's nothing about hype to it, only in terms of extent.
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More powerful yes, "much better graphics" not necessarily.

RAM is the same, from what I understand the GPUs are on roughly equal ground, they are capable of the same effects, etc..

The CELL can process more but I thought that was going to manifest in things like AI and physics rather than graphics.
 
MS is very pathetic! They are rushing all the (potentially good) games they had just to be ahead of sony in sales figures! They absolutely do not care a single f**k of us customers. What you will see when all the crap will be out is buggy and unfinished games (PDZ, PGR3 ad Oblivion for sure) and a pretty console to take dust for months. :D

I do not say that PS3 will be better but please MS stop trying to let people think next gen starts with your shit 360! DVD reader and XBOX live is too few to speak about nextgen gaming!!!
 
Redbeard said:
More powerful yes, "much better graphics" not necessarily.

RAM is the same, from what I understand the GPUs are on roughly equal ground, they are capable of the same effects, etc..

The CELL can process more but I thought that was going to manifest in things like AI and physics rather than graphics.
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You look at things from a very limited perspective, not much for the big picture eh. "RAM is the same."

Heh.

But honestly, it's gonna be down to the super developers to really demonstrated the differences in hardware at the end. And even then, Microsoft has its own super developers that'll provide games that make people say "God damn, best visuals this gen!" I just wanted to say that the PS3 will be more powerful, they don't have this gap in time so it can be the same thing, Blu-Ray or not. There's an increase here, pretty easy to read, just not near as large as some people seem to hope for.
 
arrarro said:
MS is very pathetic! They are rushing all the (potentially good) games they had just to be ahead of sony in sales figures! They absolutely do not care a single f**k of us customers. What you will see when all the crap will be out is buggy and unfinished games (PDZ, PGR3 ad Oblivion for sure) and a pretty console to take dust for months. :D

I do not say that PS3 will be better but please MS stop trying to let people think next gen starts with your shit 360! DVD reader and XBOX live is too few to speak about nextgen gaming!!!
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arrarro said:
MS is very pathetic! They are rushing all the (potentially good) games they had just to be ahead of sony in sales figures! They absolutely do not care a single f**k of us customers. What you will see when all the crap will be out is buggy and unfinished games (PDZ, PGR3 ad Oblivion for sure) and a pretty console to take dust for months. :D

I do not say that PS3 will be better but please MS stop trying to let people think next gen starts with your shit 360! DVD reader and XBOX live is too few to speak about nextgen gaming!!!
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Ohh not you again! :lol
 
fatboyee said:
Haha lol, "next gen is worth waiting for" now that's a rich statement. I guess you think people will actually "notice" a difference in graphics between these two consoles? I think there's a less chance of that happening then there was with SP2 and xbox this gen.
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huh? there is already a difference in visuals. look at ridge racer 6, which looks li,ke a xbox 1 game.
 
ram said:
huh? there is already a difference in visuals. look at ridge racer 6, which looks li,ke a xbox 1 game.
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That would be a problem with devs. not the machine itself. The X360 is more powerful than the original XBOX... I hope nobody is gonna argue with that.
 
Amir0x said:
You look at things from a very limited perspective, not much for the big picture eh. "RAM is the same."

Heh.
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It's not?

It isn't like the situation between PS2 and Xbox at any rate, where one could display much higher resolution textures or has a whole class of effects that the other doesn't. That's what I'm trying to say.
 
HDMI output will make PS3 games look better. Plus the console will display better graphics, that's 99% sure. But looking at the PSP, I wonder if it will be that important. Sony is taking a hazardous route, where you have to pay a lot to enjoy their games. It's not as if we on earth were set to be richer and richer. Actually I read somewhere we could be the first generation since the 70's that would not earn more money than our parents. Think about it. Sony is leaning on the high end business model. But many like me still want to be able to buy many games. Better graphics won't necessarily help Sony if you have to pay the price for it. Revolution and to a less extent x360 models seem wiser and more mainstream. Yet Sony has the developpers in its pocket so it's an open match.
 
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