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Microsoft says the Activision Blizzard acquisition is ‘moving fast’ (VGC)
The Eradicator
Member
Launching old AB games on Game Pass does literally nothing for people who are waiting for the next gen MS games to drop.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
everything to do with your previous comment
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Try to specify
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Its complicated once Activision is MS. I guess a bunch of contract lawyers are rubbing their hands together and putting down payments on new Ferraris as we speak.
kingfey
Banned
MS can simply cancel marketing deals, since that is not timed exclusive contract.
Unlike timed exclusives contract, marketing contract doesn't have any big upside down.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
We already know they're not
NickFire
Member
You got any receipts for this novel claim that MS can just cancel Activision's contracts?
Swipeyowifelike
Member
Not familiar with the term breach of contract I take it?
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
I agree obviously the games need to come out, the activison blizzard deal doesn’t intimidate anyone yet.
twilo99
Member
No way.. MW2 is only what.. 3-4 months away?
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Why would the deal intimidate anyone? It just means more first party games for a company some claim has no games. Seems like a good remedy to their situation.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
That's good I suppose.
If this thing is going through for sure, and it seems like it is, then I want Phil to outline his vision for the new Activision/Blizzard and maybe give us some concrete info on how we can turn Activision from a COD only publisher to a more diverse publisher without sacrificing the quality and content of yearly cods. Most people dont realize just how content rich cod is and how polished it is relative to other games that take 5 years to make, get delayed and still ship in a poor state. The problem is that it takes 20 studios all working on 3 CoD games on a 3 year dev cycle to get there. Now with Warzone and mobile CoD it's going to be even tougher for Microsoft to manage these studios before they can even think about creating any other games.
As for Blizzard, I want a next gen WoW. They are still playing on the OG 2005 specs and it needs a massive overhaul. It's time for Microsoft to cut the cord. No one is happy with the game so might as well start over.
If this thing is going through for sure, and it seems like it is, then I want Phil to outline his vision for the new Activision/Blizzard and maybe give us some concrete info on how we can turn Activision from a COD only publisher to a more diverse publisher without sacrificing the quality and content of yearly cods. Most people dont realize just how content rich cod is and how polished it is relative to other games that take 5 years to make, get delayed and still ship in a poor state. The problem is that it takes 20 studios all working on 3 CoD games on a 3 year dev cycle to get there. Now with Warzone and mobile CoD it's going to be even tougher for Microsoft to manage these studios before they can even think about creating any other games.
As for Blizzard, I want a next gen WoW. They are still playing on the OG 2005 specs and it needs a massive overhaul. It's time for Microsoft to cut the cord. No one is happy with the game so might as well start over.
kingfey
Banned
Not if you pay to cancel the contract.
kingfey
Banned
They can once they own Activision.
MS simply pays the contract to be nulled. Since it's their property, once it gets approved.
Bethesda timed exclusives contract got honored. Marketing doesn't have that level of agreement, considering they want call of duty on gamepass.
kingfey
Banned
They won't pull the game from the console.
Marketing is another thing. If it's a threat to gamepass day1, MS can and will nullify that contract, and pay Sony to cancel it.
3liteDragon
Member
Lol, they have to honour it because it was agreed upon by both parties before the acquisition & Sony paid for it. They can’t just cancel any contract the company has with other companies that were signed before the AB acquisition.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
well you brought Sony in to a thread about Microsoft
Sony was already a part of the conversation before I joined. Still don't understand the point of your comment
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Phil has already stated they will be honoring existing contracts for CoD.
Mister Wolf
Member
Fast track Diablo 4 for a 2023 release.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
The behind the scenes story behind this tweet is that the CFO of Microsoft one night realized that the only way to get this through FTC is to get Sony onboard. So he called Phil and told him to tell Sony that CoD will remain multiplatform.
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kingfey
Banned
Do you understand the story behind this?
Plus this isn't about taking the game. Its about marketing.
MS will let Sony have the marketing, as long as they don't keep gamepass away. They do that, and MS would pull the marketing rights away from Sony.
kingfey
Banned
Marketing =/= the game staying on the console.
If the marketing deal is keeping the game away from gamepass day1, then MS want to change that contract.
What you are saying is the the game staying on PS consoles. That is another matter.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Does anyone know for sure when these contracts expire?
I honestly don't think they will pull COD from PS but instead heavily incentivize playing it on Xbox
kingfey
Banned
It wasn't just that. He wanted smooth transition. Doing this, would make the ftc rethink their approach.
Topher
Identifies as young
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
What part of "honor ALL existing agreements" do you not understand?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Why would they give up monthly revenue from 4+ million users?
They should really add WoW to GamePass in some way.
Doesn't that literally change the terms of the current deal, then? Meaning MS would not be honoring the existing deal, but forcing the existing deal to be modified and then honor the altered deal, which goes against what they've publicly stated.
They can't do that. Not if they don't want the FTC looking into the altered terms of the deal, anyway, which could hold up the proceedings. I've been hearing some rumors that MS might have Modern Warfare 2 marketing into GamePass but the only way this could happen is if Sony cancelled their COD deal upon the acquisition being announced...
...which is actually possible. They could've actually done that. Personally don't know why they would, but it's a (maybe small) possibility.
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I could think of a scenario where Microsoft says "Game Pass Light (without the trademark games) on PlayStation" or no more COD for you.
That's what i actually meant with free to play: Part of Game Pass Ultimate
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Nothing would surprise me
Coming from someone who knows nothing about Minecraft how does that work on Playstation?
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Oh, okay. I think they would increase the price for GPU to do that, though; not by $5 but maybe by $2.50 or $2 otherwise they're giving up WoW subscriptions.
Or, they could convert WoW subs into GamePass xCloud subscriptions if they're going to spin xCloud off into something of its own at a cheaper price than base GamePass.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Three more COD games according to Jason
So MW2, Warzone 2 and 2023 (now 2024) COD
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nikolino840
Member
How many signs in the papers Microsoft have to do? 
I Remember when i have bought my house i've had to sign a lot of papers....i can't Imagine with a 70B acquisition
I Remember when i have bought my house i've had to sign a lot of papers....i can't Imagine with a 70B acquisition
Topher
Identifies as young
Maybe either a new tier like you said for +2-3 Euro or they are just expanding the item shop. Buy rare mounts, gold, id resets, bigger bags or even items for cash. Who knows, everything is possible.
Not a Minecraft expert either, but as far as i know they just kept it crossplatform without any conditions.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Getting to the "middle" fast is good for them but that middle portion is where all the regulators actually regulate lol
kingfey
Banned
MS would keep the game on PS. That their honored deal. The let PS keep bethesda timed exclusives.
Unless it's timed exclusives, MS can modify it.
It will only be issue, if MS doesn't allow it on the console.
Keep in mind, that MS wants gamepass day1. They won't sit down for 3 more years of marketing, considering the marketing deal expired in 2024.
kingfey
Banned
Do you think MS would sit down, and not put call of duty day 1 on gamepass?
yurinka
Member
What could (temporally) block MW2 being on GP is a potential marketing deal with Sony if it exists and if it's the same RE Village had. That block would be effective independently if the acquisition is closed in time or not.
If the Sony deal doesn't exist for this game or exist but doesn't has that game subs related part, I assume it could be included in GP independently if acquired on time or not.
Yes, they can.
We saw the RE Village marketing deal and forbids to include the game to be included in rival game subs for a period of time starting to count since its release (as I remember it was a year) and also gives Sony preference to negotiate the inclusion of the game on their own game sub. If Sony decides to negotiate it the period gets longer (as I remember it was 3 months more after that year) even if they don't end signing the inclusion of the game in Sony's game sub.
As far as I remember the only upcoming ABK games for consoles are CoDs and MS said the'll honor existing deals. I assume these CoD didn't have console exclusivity or timed console exclusivity deals. So if something these deals could be (another time) CoD marketing deal with Sony and maybe a deal with Nintendo for potential future CoD Switch ports.
This doesn't imply CoD would have exactly the same marketing deal than RE Village. It could be different. But the point is that Sony can (temporally) block GP releases and at least with other AAA marketing deals they did it.
I assume ABK or Bethesda signed the best possible deals for them they had in the table. If they were the best ones for them now will be the best ones for MS, so they'll honor them. If MS considers that for MS would be better to break them and pay Sony whatever compensation needed, they'd do it. But they decided to honor their existing deals.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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You either honour the deal or you don't. There's no "modifying"
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