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Probably not at the time. Microsoft is huge. Lots of middle management bloat.
I'm sure Greenberg is plenty aware of who Adam Orth is now that the news has spread around.
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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
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I'm sure Greenberg is plenty aware of who Adam Orth is now that the news has spread around.
Miles Quaritch
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Examiner.
http://www.examiner.com/article/microsoft-s-adam-orth-causes-xbox-user-to-take-an-axe-to-his-console
Extreme Tech
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...ys-on-connection-rumors-to-get-out-of-control
Nerd Reactor (the headline is damning)
http://nerdreactor.com/2013/04/05/durango-requires-internet-to-boot/
http://www.examiner.com/article/microsoft-s-adam-orth-causes-xbox-user-to-take-an-axe-to-his-console
Extreme Tech
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...ys-on-connection-rumors-to-get-out-of-control
Nerd Reactor (the headline is damning)
http://nerdreactor.com/2013/04/05/durango-requires-internet-to-boot/
IHaveCandy
Banned
That can be done without requiring online certification. The PS3 does it now with PS+, and the PS4 is going to do sleep downloads/installs as well.
If somebody didn't know him yesterday, they sure know him now. I imagine Sweet Billy getting some mile long stares as he walked into the office.
What a dumb ass for spouting off on Twitter about all that. Its his job to keep his mouth sealed. Guess he might be looking for a new job? Unless this is some sort of dumb trick by Microsoft? Toi gain negative buzz now, then swing those rumors the other way and be cool and drop all the anti used games and mandatory online stuff. positive buzz after their April unveiling after their April gig so to speak. Nah they wouldn't do that,right? Then again we've seen shit like Sega launch a next gen console the same day it was unveiled at E3. May 11,1995! I don't put anything past these companies anymore.
Dunno, but I'm thinking by now he's found out who Adam Orth exactly is.
lmao oh my God! I don't know why but that had me laughing so hard at work.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
You are oblivious. Gies, above all others, has been the most wrapped up in this always-online DRM twitter drama... go back to the Sim City debacle and see on which side of the line this guy parked his ass.
He downplayed and downplayed and downplayed. And oh wow what a surprise... he's downplaying again! I am quite shocked, myself.
Probably not. Phil Spencer is in charge of Microsoft Studios.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
watership is right. He can do anything he wants on it technically. It's just he's not immune to backlash.
TacticalFox88
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Sweet Billy sounds like a name of a gay porn actor.
lol.
lol.
yeah. this is my problem exactly too.
CambriaRising
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On that note, who do you think Adam Orth answers to? I just want to have a mental picture of the scene of his P45 and ass being handed to him in an angry board room.
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shouamabane
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Sweet Billy
Saying "Don't buy something if you don't like it" does not equal the shit you just posted above. That's as bad as comparing always online to having power for a vacuum. If you want his journalism, read his site. That's his personal twitter account. Sure, shit you say has repercussions, but that doesn't mean he's speaking officially. That applies to everyone's personal twitter.
TheJollyCorner
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couldn't MS easily deny this and still avoid 'talking about' the NextBox?
Something along the lines of "We at Microsoft don't believe in the practice of putting our consumers at any disadvantage, online or offline. This goes for the future, too."
so if they remain silent, are we lead to believe this reality might really be true?
Because the alternative would be a public message of something like: "Yes. We want everyone to be online all the time. Please look forward to more information in May/June."
Tricky spot for them right now.
Something along the lines of "We at Microsoft don't believe in the practice of putting our consumers at any disadvantage, online or offline. This goes for the future, too."
so if they remain silent, are we lead to believe this reality might really be true?
Because the alternative would be a public message of something like: "Yes. We want everyone to be online all the time. Please look forward to more information in May/June."
Tricky spot for them right now.
It's also posted on the frontpage of the biggest news website of the Netherlands (read by millions).
Nu.nl: Games werken nieuwe Xbox niet zonder internetverbinding.
All it takes is one publisher to do it. I think the only reason they don't is because retail wouldn't stand for it, which consoles need to keep satisfied.
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Use your brain! Use common sense!
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Diseased Yak
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It's taken me most of the morning, but I've read this entire thread. GAF can be so amazing! Best forum on the Internet, no doubt.
Can't wait to see if MS responds to this, and if so, how.
Can't wait to see if MS responds to this, and if so, how.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I don't think anyone should be making personal attacks on anyone. And I haven't. So if you're mostly annoyed at anyone telling him to die in a fire or something, I agree.
But if you don't think it's obtusely dismissive for a video game critic to say "so what" to the idea of a major console manufacturer / game publisher / game developer going always online for its next console, regardless of there being a competitive alternative, I don't know what to say.
Maybe always-online ends up being a fabulously successful idea, because enough people ignore it, don't know, or don't care, and it inevitably becomes the norm, even though it has no real benefit for consumers. That is bad.
Maybe always-online ends up being an unmitigated disaster, and Microsoft hemorrhages so much money on a dead Durango that they bail out of the console business. That is ALSO bad.
Maybe enough discussion and blowback occurs before the fact and MS reconsiders their plans.
These all seem like things a writer for a video game site might be marginally interested in talking about. And it seems like legitimate fodder for forum discussion. Video games are inherently "small potatoes". They're fucking video games. But if we're going to bother talking about them at all, this is exactly the kind of thing "worth" talking about.
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UltraMagnanimous
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Er, how many pages?!
Sweet (Billy) Jesus.
Sweet (Billy) Jesus.
He knows him by Sweet Billy.
Classy ship they run over a msft.
JeTmAn81
Member
I think this backlash gives them time to backpedal. This kind of thing is so arbitrary it's highly unlikely their system would be constructed in a manner that prevented them from taking it out. It's just a switch in the code somewhere. They only reason to do it would be to somehow make more money by forcing customers to stay in the online space.
Isent Adam Boyes Sony's indie relations guy? I wonder if that net down comment was in reference to all this mess?
I think now would be a great time for Sony to have another confrence and just show the console and how it works while not connected, then they walk off stage.
It really is insane how fast this exploded, I cant imagine Microsoft is in a happy place right now.
CaptainTiptop
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Maybe they're sweeping him under the rug after this? haha
Cerebral Assassin
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"“Here’s the deal, folks. You do a commercial - you’re off the artistic roll call, forever. End of story. Okay? You’re another whore at the capitalist gang bang and if you do a commercial, there’s a price on your head. Everything you say is suspect and every word that comes out of your mouth is now like a turd falling into my drink.”
Broder Salsa
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If giantbomb videos has taught me anything, it's not to trust Dave Lang.
Miles Quaritch
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Calling him a cunt as well as other insults isn't criticising him. Criticise him all you want, after reading up on his past actions on this forum, I'm right there with you, but it crosses a line when people make it personal by calling him a cunt, etc. It's unnecessary and beneath what I'd expect from GAF.
freenudemacusers
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I doubt any company wants negative buzz before a product launch, unless there is some magical way to contact every single person who may have been exposed to said negative buzz and clear up the story will the actual facts and product demonstrations. I can't see a company launching what I imagine is a billion dollar product pulling some kind of viral shamalayan twist.
Well hopefully this shitstorm will alert MS if they didn't already know that they better have a good fucking reason to justify needing to be always connected (if they don't just scrap that policy after this which would be the best cause of action). I've suggested before maybe they're using cloud computing for voice recognition but they'll need a lot more than that now to appease gamers. If they go ahead and announce this thing and it's basically just for the sake of drm and getting people to pay for more dlc/micro-transactions then it will be a pr setback they may not recover from.
Tripp Daily
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Is your name Adam Orth? Because you just made some crazy good analogies! (Sarcasm)
damn, I was done laughing but the visual cracked me up all over again, thanks.