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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
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educator
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Because they probably dug deep down their pockets to fund a huge reveal sometime soon.
TacticalFox88
Banned
And let the shitstorm, potentially (read: will) get WORSE?!
Anyone who's not a fucking moron knows that the 720 exists and one of their guys just potentially killed any interest from a LOT of users based on a)always online being so anti-consumer and b)the guy who confirmed it acting like a jackass causing the perception that the entire company is this way.
This is PR 101 type shit.
Red Blaster
Member
when you really get down to it arthur gies is probably the worst person in the world
a narcissistic coward of a man who unironically toes a company line and literally sees no problem in pledging to change gamez jurnolism while receiving $750k to do a masturbatory documentary
just awful
a narcissistic coward of a man who unironically toes a company line and literally sees no problem in pledging to change gamez jurnolism while receiving $750k to do a masturbatory documentary
just awful
Pretty much. I tweeted Gies about it but didn't receive a response.
I thought I saw something too that went "we have no current plans/announcements for always-online requirements."
TacticalFox88
Banned
ROFL!
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Michael Pachter 2: Electric Boogaloo?The sad thing is that this is actually building his reputation. Next thing you know he's that "controversial" dude with "challenging" opinions that get gamers talking and more people start listening to what he says. We're helping build that future
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Deleted member 17706
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Giant Bomb isn't a typical "news site," so I don't think they really count. They aren't like the IGNs and Polygons and Kotakus that typically post anything and everything. When you have places like Yahoo reporting on this, Polygon's lack of reporting on it (even when their parent site--the Verge--did) appears to be highly suspect, especially considering their special relationship with Microsoft and their employment of Arthur Gies, who never fails to appear in Microsoft's defense.
Also, you are trying to downplay this by calling the guy who made these comments "one dumbass employee." He is the creative director for Microsoft Studios. An executive at a pretty high level. Someone who has their hand in the creation of games for the next platform. He's not just "some employee."
Grinchy
Banned
Damn, lol. I know they say that any publicity is good publicity, but I'm just not sure.
They say this exact same robot PR thing for everything.
We're still on the same path we were yesterday, except as things have been pointed out and elaborated on, the always online requirement for the Durango is still probable but there's a small chance always online isn't a requirement. Or the always online design is something completely different than what we think it is.
Microsoft's PR statement doesn't add weight to always online being a requirement or it not being a requirement.
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The ball will stop on its own by this time tomorrow. What MS did was provide the standard corporate response which was exactly all they had to do.
Nothing stops this train until MS shoots it down and fires Arthur and this dude.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
The Verge can be trusted. The same can not be said for Polygon.
No it was something like "yes, you will be able to enjoy your PS4 old shcool style with offline play". Its in this thread but I cant find it.
MaulerX
Member
It's all hypothetical at this point. They shouldn't apologize, they shouldn't even acknowledge the shitstorm. They put out exactly the statement they needed to put out.
That way, when they announce their console, it's a clean slate. Fresh start. and if it is still always-online then, then they'll have to deal with the real shit-storm.
Impeccable
Member
My dad even knows of this always online stuff now.
(He's a casual-hardcore gamer... IE. he plays "hardcore games" but doesn't follow shit regarding the industry.)
He probably learned from Yahoo, he's old so that's his go to.
(He's a casual-hardcore gamer... IE. he plays "hardcore games" but doesn't follow shit regarding the industry.)
He probably learned from Yahoo, he's old so that's his go to.
Again, couldn't they do what Nintendo did? Confirm the successor, give a basic idea of what it'll be, but leave the system reveal and various other facets to the reveal. Playing it as if all news about this new system simply doesn't exist until they actually show it off is currently doing more harm than good.
I see nothing alarming about confirming Durango, making a comment on this stuff, and then talking about an event they have in the works for it unless they really don't want to make a comment on this matter. They're not fooling anyone for a reveal. Not wanting to deny this right now really points to them hoping they have something to show to counterbalance this element.
CambriaRising
Member
Well Microsoft IS one of Vox's premium advertisers so..
It is
No you wouldn't.
haha, yea, this is going places.
TriangularDuck
Member
haha this situation is far more ridiculous than it seemed at face value
No it was something like "yes, you will be able to enjoy your PS4 old shcool style with offline play". Its in this thread but I cant find it.
Nah, it's good enough for me, thanks.
not_so_special
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StriKeVillain
Banned
Sure, but MS is going to control the conversation and expose things on their terms, not yours or mine. They paid a lot for analysts and strategists to craft their next-gen plan. MS isn't a speedboat, they can't turn and change strategy on a whim. They're a lumbering carrier and it takes a lot of approvals from different fragmented channels before they can commit to anything.
I'm just wondering how many folks had to touch that stupid 2 sentence response before Edelman was allowed to publish it.
Interfectum
Member
Anecdotal but a few people I know that don't even follow video games mentioned the always online next-gen Xbox today. That shit spread like wildfire!
I don't see how there is any probably to it.
Gies remains the only games journalist wanted by the Hague for crimes against everyone and everything in perpetuity.
what difference does it make? Microsoft couldn't give less of a shit whether the hardcore are salivating over the console, because they know that they will buy the console anyways. Not like Nintendo's strategy is paying dividends anyways.
That really limits the amount of useable venues and pushes the price up for organisers. The PS4 is just a smarter option.
If you're at a venue and setting everything up in a couple of hours, you're not going to run a cable to every box just so that the games will work. Chances are you won't even have access to the router.
BadAss2961
Member
"We're not releasing an always online console."
"We don't believe in always online."
Just saying something along the lines of that would kill all this negative publicity.
nope. venture capital driven site whose only goal is maximum profit owned by the exact same people who own polygon.
HAHA god damn, dude done fucked up.
Yes, but this is not a response to an isolated article speculating that the console requires an internet connection.
This is a steamroller of bad PR. You don't just let that beast plow through all your best-laid plans. Unless there's truth there.
JCreasy
Member
Time will stop it. Or at least slow it down.
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The Everyman
You can't expect him or Adam to enter a dog pile.Come on, Gies. You're here reading all this "verbal diarrhea".
At least have the guts to back up your inane statements.
BloodMoney
Banned
Deal With It
Boss Man
Member
Can we just stop talking about Gies please?
We all realize he's a joke, but in his own world he's just rationalizing it as "haters" or whatever. There's no good in it. And Polygon might as well be a banned site here if they seriously aren't reporting on gaming news that is big enough to be on NBC. It's become more and more obvious that they have a vested interest that makes the site disreputable.
We all realize he's a joke, but in his own world he's just rationalizing it as "haters" or whatever. There's no good in it. And Polygon might as well be a banned site here if they seriously aren't reporting on gaming news that is big enough to be on NBC. It's become more and more obvious that they have a vested interest that makes the site disreputable.
Microsoft advertises on most, if not all the sites that have reported about this.
This is a hypothetical. A hypothetical! It could very well turn out to be true, or they could fix it in time for the reveal, or it may just be complete BS. i think the former is the most likely, but that doesn't change the fact that nothing is confirmed, nothing is in the consumer's hands.
Compare this to something that was tangible and a real, true fuck up of epic proportions: the RROD. They released a console that was DEFECTIVE and most people still didn't give a shit once they fixed the problem and 360 has solds loads and loads of consoles since then.
No one gives a shit about this. They will give a shit if it's always online, but this mini-shitstorm? It'll blow over. It always does.
OH GOD they called him sweet Billy
thats it . this guy will never leave his house again.