Sir Abacus
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Andrew Cunningham wrote an article on Ars this morning saying that Microsoft's Surface Mini is the iPad. Only available with an Office 365 sub! Even if you've already bought a single PC license for Word on Windows.
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Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Announced (12", 3:2 aspect ratio, new stand)
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Andrew Cunningham wrote an article on Ars this morning saying that Microsoft's Surface Mini is the iPad. Only available with an Office 365 sub! Even if you've already bought a single PC license for Word on Windows.
yea first, i couldnt give two shits if "desktop" is an archaic term. Want something not archiac, fine, I have a NAS device that I like to hit remotely, I can't do that on an iPad. I UNC patch all the time to end users "desktops" and "laptops" i do it to "servers" too. None of which can be done on an ipad.
Drive maps, oh wait, there's an app for that, fucking great, call me when I can actually go to the file system on the ipad and view said file.
In windows, I A) dont need some stupid app B) i can drag and drop, view, rename the file and do other fancy things like copy and paste and generally just move it around anywhere I want without need an app.
brotkasten
Member
You could picture the mini looking exactly like that right there.
What could've been (other than a bad photoshop comparison).
Dead Prince
Banned
Will be interesting to hear his thoughts on the new pen.
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/why-surface/for-creating
hope the outcome isn't bad.
brotkasten
Member
should beg samsung make galaxy note with atom and windows
Still can't believe how badly Asus messed the VivoTab Note 8 up. Thanks again for making me aware of it. I might going to risk it anyway, but I wish I new if my Bamboo pen works on it.
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Deleted member 1235
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the microsoft surface pro 1 and 2?
give it some kind of clever docking port to a monitor and bam, RT line redeemed.
You shouldn't be. It would have sucked now, both in terms of HW and SW.
What will end up being released will be a much more viable product.
knee jerk ... irredeemable
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
That's my comfort, TBH.
If synaptics stylus wasn't so shit in dell vp8 it could have been a pretty good choice too. galaxy note 8 is probably better for note taking than either right now, it's cheaper too, built far better with wacom. (on second look, it's not cheaper exactly...)
Curious if an NTrig pen could work on VP8.
What is 'AC' WiFi?
When the said app is free or 99 cents it's not an issue. Plus you can always use android if you want network share support on an OS level.
BTW, surface mini already exists, it's called the dell venue 8 and it's far more reasonably priced. With the price of this tablet you can get a MacBook Pro/Windows ultrabook + an ipad mini or nexus 7.
The surface pro is useless to those who don't use photoshop with a pen,
dem
Member
Yeah I agree
The Windows button is pretty useless. I use the charm swipe pretty much exclusively.
RurouniZel
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TheLaughingStock
Member
Lol pretty harsh dude.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
So I just heard from a person I trust when it comes to Microsoft matters that Surface Pro 2 manufacturing has already ceased in order to make the switch to Surface Pro 3.
Interesting...
Interesting...
chickdigger802
Banned
could be a good excuse for me to snag a 'laptop'. haven't had one since college, still really dont have any use atm, but <$600 is enough for impulse buy on sexy tech :3
NeOak
Member
You mean the "Penabled" BS tech from Wacom?
I've used the SP2 pen in the VT Note 8 just fine.
Bamboo pen doesn't work on the SP2 either.
And for the record, seems to be the same tech in the Galaxy Notes anyway.
I'd probably get one if there is a fire sale
Can't wait for them Pro 2 prices around Black Friday. mmmmm
brotkasten
Member
I want to see proof. Talk is cheap and while they're busy improving their device, others are already on their 2. Gen and about to release their 3rd Gen devices. First gen devices are going to suck either way (the first gen iPad and iPad mini sucked really bad), but you have to get them out at some point to get a foothold in the market.
A nice upgrade, but I still think this tech has 1 or 2 more steps to go before it matures into something I would buy with no regrets.
The obvious being missing out on Broadwell and a truly fanless and ventless design. Those vents still make me nervous (structural integrity, dust build-up)
Not to mention the software ecosystem to take advantage of a touch interface on Windows 8 machines isn't quite there yet. That special version of Photoshop doesn't look complete, and the N-trig runs into questions of compatibility with other software like Corel Painter.
Hopefully all of this will be addressed in the SP4.
The obvious being missing out on Broadwell and a truly fanless and ventless design. Those vents still make me nervous (structural integrity, dust build-up)
Not to mention the software ecosystem to take advantage of a touch interface on Windows 8 machines isn't quite there yet. That special version of Photoshop doesn't look complete, and the N-trig runs into questions of compatibility with other software like Corel Painter.
Hopefully all of this will be addressed in the SP4.
maximum360
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Adding the covers to the prices would be a win and go a long way to garnering more interest. I really plan on using this as a laptop replacement for the next few years and just can't justify anything below a 256 GB option. $999 is a no-brainer but $1300 is a tough pill to swallow. To add insult to injury, I will also have to pay additionally for the type pad. I'm hoping that with my wife working as a teacher she will be able to get a discount.
Yea android doesnt exist in my world. And as I said, having to get an app to do something is asinine. Also you ignored all the other scenarios i just gave you.
You work fine on a tablet, good for you. There are those of us that do more things than browse the web, send and receive emails, and draw.
again, lol. I use it all the time, works great with my photography. Its called a mouse.
michaelius
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Is there Eclipse or Visual Studio or Unity3d app on iOS or Android ?
It's the new hotness for the WiFi's - the consumer level iteration after 11n.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac
The compatibility could prove to be an issue, I'll grant you that.
However calling Wacom 'higher quality' is premature. Before assuming, you should probably give it a test or look for reviews with the particular software in question.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=112768552&postcount=452
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Bamboo Pen does work for SP2, I use it all the time.
I have researched. It doesn't work with Paint Tool SAI at all from what I've read.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
the question is "has the surface1/2 sold enough and/or have enough demand for a mini variation to be viable?" not "how fast can we get a foot hold into the market" you can't just compare the ipad to the surface. ipad being a content consumption device and surface aiming for both content consumption and creation.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
These are computers so I'm not sure I get the intense focus some have with MS's market success with this device if the question is really whether its a quality device or not
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(and it looks like and has a history as quality device)
And xamarin.
Agreed though. Seriously considering this to buy as a light dev machine. Don't have a Windows machine at home or work and I'm getting rusty.
And I'd use it as a tablet too.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
if your not that worried about the CPU power. then 2 is the best option.
Shogmaster
Member
Be careful with the "Bamboo" moniker. Wacom uses it fast and loose these days (as with the "Intuos" moniker). Bamboo Feel IT pen works with SP2, but pens from other Bamboo line does not.
Switch to Manga Studio 5/Clip Studio Paint. It's a better version of Paint Tool SAI based on same brush engine, and it has native MS Tablet API support.
Solideliquid
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So last time I looked into the surface they had a model that only ran apps from the windows App Store and a second model that could run most PC programs. When you buy a surface 3 can you install say, steam out of the box and play games?
dem
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Scalemail Ted
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Clip Studio Paint is such good software. They did a great job building an interface that works well for a tablet
