SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Fuck me... Anyone seen the Australian prices?
The cheapest model is $979.
The best is $2279.
Gotta love that Australian Tax...
Yeah it's pretty fucked.
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Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Announced (12", 3:2 aspect ratio, new stand)
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Yeah it's pretty fucked.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
It's under 2lbs. It's 800grams.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
The Microsoft online store doesn't even have the Surface Pro 2 anymore. It's just the RT Surface 2 and the Pro 3.
All models are $50 more in Canada too. Still waiting on the drawing experience reviews before I consider getting one in any case.
All models are $50 more in Canada too. Still waiting on the drawing experience reviews before I consider getting one in any case.
What do you mean both? Last I checked with the discount alone (no promo code) it'd cost me 1286 for sp3 i5 256GB with type cover without tax.
10% plus $100 off with graduation code. Came to $1,186.09 pre-tax, so that sounds about right.
oh god you're right
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I was going to cop a Surface Pro 2 when the price dropped ;_;
Still a chance of sales at non-Microsoft store retailers I suppose?
Why would you want to use them on a tablet? What advantage would that give you over using them on a laptop?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
That it's also a tablet? You put it down on a desk and attach the keyboard when you want to work, when you want to read a comic or digital magazine or browse the net on the couch you pick it up and use it as a tablet. It means not having to own 2 devices.
Really most of this stuff is self evident.
Same. I think I'll be ok with the 4GB version but then again PS files use a lot of RAM. It's a big jump in price.
EatinOlives
Member
Didn't you and I already have this exact conversation?
Dead Prince
Banned
8gb. Gives you more room in the future. I felt the 4GB on the SP2 wasn't enough for me. But that's me.
Yeah, im leaning towards that just to save myself the regret down the line..
no - it uses a different style connector and I think it's bigger
For what it's worth, the old covers do work with SP3, the problem is that they don't cover the whole screen.
Where/with what software did you feel the crunch?
Actually I wouldn't mind the SP2 at all but I feel the 10" is too small. I'm also not worried about the processor. i3's and i5's are very fast for my needs.
brotkasten
Member
And yet it's easier to create all kind of content with the iPad than it is with the Surface RT or Surface 2.
Astral/H3X
Member
iPads are typically advertised as, well, just the iPad, whereas the Surface is always shown with the keyboard and kickstand, as well as the OS just being much better suited to productivity as a whole, even the RT.
Yeah, I know you *can* get a keyboard/stand accessory, but it's not a "default" accessory.
Doominated
Member
There's only about a 20% CPU performance difference between the i5-3317u in the first gen surface and the i5-4300u in the 3rd gen surface
Difference obviously comes in terms of battery life and design, but actual "power" is pretty much the same for every day use. Kind of shows that the Surface Pro was probably about 6 months early to market. I always personally felt the Surface RT was 5-6 months late to hit its mark (Should've been released right when it was revealed), and that CPUs weren't mature enough for a device like the Surface Pro until Haswell. Would've made more sense if MS released the Surface RT in June-ish 2012, then the 2nd iteration + Surface Pro around June-July 2013. Would've capitalized on the newest processors as soon as they were available for the Pro and would've capitalized on the tablet market with RT before everybody had given up on tablets being able to be productivity devices (aka around the time 4.1/jelly bean released).
To be honest, it feels like this is the first true Surface Pro and the first 2 were just initial prototypes that got a retail release lol. Third time's the charm.
I'm shocked at how thin they got it, while making it bigger AND reducing the weight. And a total 0 - 150 degree angle kickstand? And an actually decent track pad on the type cover?
If MS could have kept the Surface Pro in the oven a bit longer and released this as the first version. Oh boy.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Somebody tell me how much of a difference the i7 would make from the i5 if I wanted to do some heavy video editing. The price jump between the two is pretty huge (especially here in Aus), but I only buy a new comp once every 5 years.
I really, really hope that gaming works on this machine. If games like SF AE can still use 720p without any issues or GW with whatever native aspect this machine has I will be happy.
The Surface Pro 2 has the perfect gaming performancefor what I want (New Vegas etc.) but I am just so worried. I hope I find out before my pre-order gets finalised and shipped.
The Surface Pro 2 has the perfect gaming performancefor what I want (New Vegas etc.) but I am just so worried. I hope I find out before my pre-order gets finalised and shipped.
Magnets, and ways to guarantee losing your pen eventually.
http://www.wpcentral.com/6-ways-attach-surface-pen-surface-pro-3
Oh and there's an exclusive navy blue type cover at BestBuy. Couldn't decide between Cyan and Purple before, but this seems better than those.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/microso...=6728113&productCategoryId=pcmcat242000050002
http://www.wpcentral.com/6-ways-attach-surface-pen-surface-pro-3
Oh and there's an exclusive navy blue type cover at BestBuy. Couldn't decide between Cyan and Purple before, but this seems better than those.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/microso...=6728113&productCategoryId=pcmcat242000050002
brotkasten
Member
Last time I checked, none of the Surface tablets came with the keyboard as default accessory. The keyboard is just as official as all the licensed 3rd party keyboard for the iPad and I bet there are more iPad users with a keyboard than Surface users with one.
well, duh!
There is no way Surfae RT or any windows tablet could have been released earlier as Windows 8 was not finished at the time.
Fuck me... Anyone seen the Australian prices?
The cheapest model is $979.
The best is $2279.
Gotta love that Australian Tax...
799 USD = 862 AUD.
862 * 1.1 = 948 AUD
TYL about exchange rates and GST.
Unless I'm misunderstanding something on the website, don't all 256GB models come with 8GB of memory?
I know better technology is always around the corner but I really wanted broadwell to be in the next surface pro and can't see myself dishing out so much money for hardware that is still based on haswell. I can only imagine that the broadwell battery life would have been glorious.
Cmon dude. 'Licensed 3rd party iPad keyboards' (wtf does that even mean? There aren't any lightning dock keyboard keyboards) aren't just as official as Microsoft's first party keyboard cover.
Part of me is inclined to believe the i7 models are delayed because they might be broadwell parts. Intel keeps saying Broadwell will show up later this year which makes me inclined to think they are actually syncing that with a MBP refresh
Eventually it will have DDR4 and SATAExpress too but you have to keep waiting.
The memory frequency is actually something I would like to know because the HD4400 performance leans heavily on it.
I'd be happy with lower TDP/more performance, so just Broadwell parts is enough for me.
Also all versions of the SP3 have shipping date late August for Sweden on the Microsoftstore, but that could just be cause we're tier3 when it comes to Surface.
Just feels like, if Broadwell really is coming late 2014, MS jumped the gun on releasing a refresh of the SP, SP2 released just last fall, new SP3 now, and say SP4 Nov/Dec 2014, or January 2015?
Too soon
Executus
Unless, as you theorize, SP3 i7's are Broadwell parts.
Stephen_drewz
Member
Long shot but are there any crestron programmers reading this thread that have attempted to do their work with a pro 2?
Edit: Visiontools impressions would also be good. Feel free to comment if you work with AMX as well.
Edit: Visiontools impressions would also be good. Feel free to comment if you work with AMX as well.
Dead Prince
Banned
any news when these will hit the MS store? kinda want to test drive these
everthustodeadbeats
Member
As a percentage for each of the total that have keyboards, probably not.
Considering they are now competing against laptops and not iPads so much anymore(they've given up), Microsoft should come up with some better pricing/combos for the keyboard
Well its a case of what you are doing and how much battery life you have then.
10 hrs web browsing is not the same as 10 hours using design software.
But yeah 1 business day is a good target for battery life.
The disadvantage of owning an ultrabook + an ipad mini or nexus is far less than owning a 1.8lb "tablet"
michaelius
Banned
Because you can easily use tablet form factor on plane or train unlike laptop.
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The Everyman
Browsing on a tablet where I have access to my chrome extentions is really really great. It's also a lot faster than the mini. Even just for browsing and definitely for scrolling through long Pdfs. Oh and it's way better for touch screen steam games. It's also a way better portable TV. Essspecially thanks to those chrome extentions like hola unblocker with Netflix. Oh and multitasking is way better. And note taking. And art. I could go on.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
But you asked why someone would want to do work on this instead of on a laptop. Now you're saying that they should own 2 devices because you think it's better. Why? This weighs less than a laptop and is more versatile. I'm not seeing the disadvantages.
Doominated
Member
Windows RT and Windows 8 could've easily been released separately. Sure, it might not've made the most sense from a cohesion standpoint, but it would've given the Surface a fighting chance in the tablet market. The app store may have started out even more barren than it was initially, but it's not like it had much on release outside of Office anyway.
Having worked in retail at the time, I can tell you first hand that tablets pre-Nexus 7 were misunderstood and seen as useless by the vast majority of people that wound up buying them. More than half of the non-ipad tablets my store sold would get returned because "It can't run office". When the Surface first got unveiled in June 2012 that was still true, but by the time it released in November, people had given up on tablets working like that and accepted them as oversized versions of their phones. Microsoft really missed their window of opportunity with the surface. They could've dominated the non-ipad market, which would've also wound up making the Windows store more viable as an app store more quickly.
At the end of the day, all of the parts used in the Surface RT were available in June when it was announced, so the only thing holding it back was the OS like you said. If MS really wanted to push, they could've done it.