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[mdsfx]

I doubt many people care at this point.

nope. don't care.

 

[mdubs]

Jesus Christ IGN

Feeling the hype for this game though, everything I've seen looks great so I'm looking forward to the reviews

 

[Raptor]

Like is way too late man, lol we already passed that but we can go back!

"I will say it straight up, this game is worse than Vanquish"

WTF IGN some people here will get mad as hell!!

 

[Ainaurdur]

Really can't decide whether or not to grab this on PC or PS4. All depends on how the PC version performs and how easy the PS4 Platinum is

For me the choice comes down to the fact that I just recently bought a PS4, and my PC doesn't quite hit the minimum specs. I can't afford to upgrade my PC any time soon, so PS4 it is.

 

[antitrop]

Like is way too late man, lol we already passed that but we can go back!

"I will say it straight up, this game is worse than Wolfenstein The New Order"

WTF IGN some people here will get mad as hell!!

Don't you drag Wolfenstein into this.

Poor BJ has been through enough, already

 

[mekes]

Saw a trailer for this earlier, one I'm guessing everybody has already seen. It was the first I'd seen of this game. I pre-ordered straight afterwards

 

[Raptor]

Don't you drag Wolfenstein into this.

Poor BJ has been through enough, already

DAmn it will edit.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Excellent thread title, and a great thread all-around, OP. I am waiting on the reviews to see if this game will have a prominent spot on my Black Friday list.

 

[DrBo42]

Okay jokes aside, where is this stuff about PS4 being 60 fps coming from?

 

[Smash88]

I'm contemplating playing this on 360 controller or mouse and keyboard.

#firstworldproblems

 

[neogaffer1]

Okay jokes aside, where is this stuff about PS4 being 60 fps coming from?

Dev interview, see Shinobi's post.

 

[CosmicQueso]

Some poor guy at IGN is sitting at his desk, face down, wondering what in the world he did to deserve this.

 

[neogaffer1]

I'm contemplating playing this on 360 controller or mouse and keyboard.

#firstworldproblems

IMO unless it's a FPS or something that specifically works well with a kbm the game will usually more enjoyable with a controller. I'm def using a controller with this.

 

[Inceptional]

I'm not a fan of Tomb Raider's frame rate on the PS4. I picked it up last week because it was pretty cheap on PSN ($17), even though I already played it maxed out on PC at launch.

I found the wildly dynamic framerate of anywhere from 40 to 60 to be extremely distracting. It was definitely hitting 60 in the claustrophobic "tombs", but in any outdoor environment I was really wishing that the game had a 30fps lock option, such as Titanfall 360 or Second Son. It was really all over the place.

I'll take the PS4's lowest frame rate dip of 40 compared to every other version, all of which can drop down into the 20's. It feels pretty damn smooth to me and mostly holds in the 50's, so you're nitpicking really. The sequence in particular that stands out is when all those dudes are zip lining over to kick your ass while bombs are being thrown at you and the responsiveness of the gun play and camera control was amazing and made taking out those bastards more fun than infuriating, which is what it felt like on PS3 and the little bit I played on the ONE.

 

[GDJustin]

Some poor guy at IGN is sitting at his desk, face down, wondering what in the world he did to deserve this.

No one here is paying any attention to this topic.

(Besides me, obviously).

 

[~Kinggi~]

So are the reviews 12 am Eastern or pacific?

 

[neogaffer1]

I'll take the PS4's lowest frame rate dip of 40 compared to every other version, all of which can drop down into the 20's. It feels pretty damn smooth to me and mostly holds in the 50's, so you're nitpicking really. The sequence in particular that stands out is when all those dudes are zip lining over to kick your ass while bombs are being thrown at you and the responsiveness of the gun play and camera control was amazing and made taking out those bastards more fun than infuriating, which is what it felt like on PS3 and the little bit I played on the ONE.

If you're someone used to solid, smooth 60 fps all the time, a variable 40-50s framerate can be more jarring than 30 fps. With 30 fps the control isn't as responsive but the visuals are steady. With a variable framerate it's all over the place and you notice immediately that it's not steady at all. Whether it's worth going to 30 fps depends on the person. When I played the Arkham games on PC, instead of dialing back to hit steady 60 I pushed the effects even further to get it down to a steady 30.

 

[ironcreed]

So are the reviews 12 am Eastern or pacific?

Eastern.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

To indulge in the realm of speculation for a moment; one wonders how easy it would have been for Oromë or Tulkas to simply approach Mordor sweeping aside all resistance, entering Barad-dûr and doing to Sauron what Eönwë did to Melkor. Of course the non-interference policy was in place (with exceptions) so Manwë would have prevented such action. But then much of the strife of the First Age was due to Manwë's irresolute nature.

 

[Raptor]

If you're someone used to solid, smooth 60 fps all the time, a variable 40-50s framerate can be more jarring than 30 fps. With 30 fps the control isn't as responsive but the visuals are steady. With a variable framerate it's all over the place and you notice immediately that it's not steady at all. Whether it's worth going to 30 fps depends on the person.

If this is like Second Son "Unlocked 60fps" then it will be amazing IMO.

I never needed the 30fps lock in that game, felt perfect, maybe is because Im not that used to 60fps? who knows!

 

[Dmax3901]

To indulge in the realm of speculation for a moment; one wonders how easy it would have been for Oromë or Tulkas to simply approach Mordor sweeping aside all resistance, entering Barad-dûr and doing to Sauron what Eönwë did to Melkor. Of course the non-interference policy was in place (with exceptions) so Manwë would have prevented such action. But then much of the strife of the First Age was due to Manwë's irresolute nature.

I fucking love these posts popping up amongst all the 60fps and review score talk.

 

[Raptor]

To indulge in the realm of speculation for a moment; one wonders how easy it would have been for Oromë or Tulkas to simply approach Mordor sweeping aside all resistance, entering Barad-dûr and doing to Sauron what Eönwë did to Melkor. Of course the non-interference policy was in place (with exceptions) so Manwë would have prevented such action. But then much of the strife of the First Age was due to Manwë's irresolute nature.

Once I saw this I opened Wiki lol.

Such amazing knowledge!

 

[Famassu]

Platinumed Lord of the Rings: War in the North in anticipation of this, a process I started in 2012. Can't have the previous LotR game hanging unfinished before I start the next at some point in the next couple of months, hopefully.

 

[EmptySpace]

it'd be hilarious if the score did turn out to be 3/10.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

I fucking love these posts popping up amongst all the 60fps and review score talk.

I'll be here to lend my expertise on such things. It's not always that a Tolkien related videogame is released and especially one that shows promise.

 

[MMaRsu]

Eastern.

In how many hrs is that?

Looking at the 3 hour PS4 footafe on youtube .

 

[Inceptional]

If you're someone used to solid, smooth 60 fps all the time, a variable 40-50s framerate can be more jarring than 30 fps. With 30 fps the control isn't as responsive but the visuals are steady. With a variable framerate it's all over the place and you notice immediately that it's not steady at all. Whether it's worth going to 30 fps depends on the person.

I get what you're saying but Tomb Raider DE on PS4 is not as bad as you're making it out to be. Yes it dips but it's not that frequent and as someone who's been playing games for over twenty years, I'm sensitive to that stuff as well. It's not bad at all, especially compared to its ONE, PS3 and 360 counterparts, which are NOT rock solid.

 

[neogaffer1]

If this is like Second Son "Unlocked 60fps" then it will be amazing IMO.

I never needed the 30fps lock in that game, felt perfect, maybe is because Im not that used to 60fps? who knows!

I used to not care if a game is 30 or 60 fps. Then I started PC gaming. Now it's often really hard for me to play something at 30 fps. With Tomb Raider XB1 at first I was like "30 fps isn't that big of a deal." When I returned to it after months of PC gaming I found it borderline unbearable.

 

[Dmax3901]

I'll be here to lend my expertise on such things. It's not always that a Tolkien related videogame is released and especially one that shows promise.

I'm glad that it's caught your attention, because I imagine head-canon could be put to use well with this game.

 

[platypotamus]

No one here is paying any attention to this topic.

(Besides me, obviously).

Meanwhile, in the Monolith offices...

 

[Thrakier]

If this is like Second Son "Unlocked 60fps" then it will be amazing IMO.

I never needed the 30fps lock in that game, felt perfect, maybe is because Im not that used to 60fps? who knows!

I know. Its because you are not used to 60fps.

 

[bananafactory]

Understand that some people have problems with the unstable frame rate, but personally I never had an issue with TR and Infamous. I'll gladly take moments of higher framerate whenever possible, even if it drops to 30 at times. Just a personal preference

 

[JohnGrimm]

In how many hrs is that?

Looking at the 3 hour PS4 footafe on youtube .

5 hours.

 

[DrBo42]

I'll be here to lend my expertise on such things. It's not always that a Tolkien related videogame is released and especially one that shows promise.

Oh good you're back. Some questions:

The Black Gate - Talion is a ranger stationed at the Black Gate, how common is that and for how long was that happening? I imagine it would be similar to Ice and Fire's wall in the North with mostly a skeleton crew guarding it. Is the Black Gate set directly on the border or is it within the bounds of Mordor itself?

Orcs - There's lots of talk about Uruks vs Uruk-hai but it seems a bit confusing. Did Tolkien use the terms interchangeably or is there an actual breed or race difference between the two?

Dev interview, see Shinobi's post.

Thanks.

 

[theonerayman]

Oh good you're back. Some questions:

The Black Gate - Talion is a ranger stationed at the Black Gate, how common is that and for how long was that happening? I imagine it would be similar to Ice and Fire's wall in the North with mostly a skeleton crew guarding it. Is the Black Gate set directly on the border or is it within the bounds of Mordor itself?

Orcs - There's lots of talk about Uruks vs Uruk-hai but it seems a bit confusing. Did Tolkien use the terms interchangeably or is there an actual breed or race difference between the two?



Thanks.

1. After that battle of Dagorlad in Second Age 3434 the men of Gondor set up a garrison there to keep the evil of mordor or that side of the wall (with Sauron believed to be defeated) So basically from SA 3434 until Talion and his family are killed is your time table.

2. Christopher Tolkien describes "Uruks" as an anglicization of "Uruk-hai" and his father used the two terms interchangeably a number of times. While "Uruk-hai" means simply "Orc-folk", the term was reserved for the soldier orcs of Mordor and Isengard. The larger orcs called the smaller breeds snaga ("slave").

 

[Dead Prince]

Dev interview, see Shinobi's post.

he said they are doing everything to get it to 60fps. it was never confirmed to be 60fps.

 

[Iced_Eagle]

it'd be hilarious if the score did turn out to be 3/10.

As someone who preordered digitally, I would weep and then still play it to decide for myself.

Hopefully that wont happen and it gets good reviews though!

 

[DarkoMaledictus]

It won't!

Green Man Gaming
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This is why you buy a PC system. This is why! Pre-Bought!

U forgot Nuuvem for 29.99 !

 

[RadioactiveLobster]

"I'd rather play Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing exclusively for the rest of my life than spend one more minute in this game" - Alex Navarro

Spoiler

Am I doing it right?

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Oh good you're back. Some questions:

The Black Gate - Talion is a ranger stationed at the Black Gate, how common is that and for how long was that happening? I imagine it would be similar to Ice and Fire's wall in the North with mostly a skeleton crew guarding it. Is the Black Gate set directly on the border or is it within the bounds of Mordor itself?

Orcs - There's lots of talk about Uruks vs Uruk-hai but it seems a bit confusing. Did Tolkien use the terms interchangeably or is there an actual breed or race difference between the two?Thanks.

In terms of the Black Gate, two towers (Narchost and Carchost) were built by Gondorians after the War of the Last Alliance at the end of the Second Age. The towers were built and maintained from that point on to watch for the return of Sauron. This watch persisted well into the Third Age, but finally declined and ended approximately 1000 years before the events of The Hobbit. Sauron returned to Mordor during that time period. As far as Rangers are concerned, Tolkien didn't really expound upon what took place during the 1000 year desertion of the area. One of the facets of the mythos that Tolkien left open to elaboration. The Gate essentially provides protection for a gap in a range of mountains that surround Mordor.

As far as Uruks and Uruk-hai are concerned; Tolkien used the terms interchangeably. In terms of meaning, hai translates to 'folk', Uruk-hai translates to 'Orc-folk'.

 

[Levyne]

Just FYI I have a commitment early tomorrow so I probably won't be able to see the review aftermath until midday.

So if someone else want to make a review thread when they start rolling in, go ahead. I'll have to update when I get the chance.

 

[Mrbob]

No one here is paying any attention to this topic.

(Besides me, obviously).

Have people played the PC version?

 

[Jinaar]

U forgot Nuuvem for 29.99 !

Hola! But is that in the Pounds or Euro?

 

[Dmax3901]

In terms of the Black Gate, two towers (Narchost and Carchost) were built by Gondorians after the War of the Last Alliance at the end of the Second Age. The towers were built and maintained from that point on to watch for the return of Sauron. This watch persisted well into the Third Age, but finally declined and ended approximately 1000 years before the events of The Hobbit. Sauron returned to Mordor during that time period. As far as Rangers are concerned, Tolkien didn't really expound upon what took place during the 1000 year desertion of the area. One of the facets of the mythos that Tolkien left open to elaboration. The Gate essentially provides protection for a gap in a range of mountains that surround Mordor.

As far as Uruks and Uruk-hai are concerned; Tolkien used the terms interchangeably. In terms of meaning, hai translates to 'folk', Uruk-hai translates to 'Orc-folk'.

It's something I keep remembering with surprise, how thousands of years passed between when Sauron was first defeated and the events of the Hobbit / Lotr.

The Nazgul were destroying entire kingdoms thousands of years before Bilbo is born.

 

[DrBo42]

1. After that battle of Dagorlad in Second Age 3434 the men of Gondor set up a garrison there to keep the evil of mordor or that side of the wall (with Sauron believed to be defeated) So basically from SA 3434 until Talion and his family are killed is your time table.

2. Christopher Tolkien describes "Uruks" as an anglicization of "Uruk-hai" and his father used the two terms interchangeably a number of times. While "Uruk-hai" means simply "Orc-folk", the term was reserved for the soldier orcs of Mordor and Isengard. The larger orcs called the smaller breeds snaga ("slave").

In terms of the Black Gate, two towers (Narchost and Carchost) were built by Gondorians after the War of the Last Alliance at the end of the Second Age. The towers were built and maintained from that point on to watch for the return of Sauron. This watch persisted well into the Third Age, but finally declined and ended approximately 1000 years before the events of The Hobbit. Sauron returned to Mordor during that time period. As far as Rangers are concerned, Tolkien didn't really expound upon what took place during the 1000 year desertion of the area. One of the facets of the mythos that Tolkien left open to elaboration. The Gate essentially provides protection for a gap in a range of mountains that surround Mordor.

As far as Uruks and Uruk-hai are concerned; Tolkien used the terms interchangeably. In terms of meaning, hai translates to 'folk', Uruk-hai translates to 'Orc-folk'.

Thanks guys.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Praying for this game tbh. I desperately want an RPG on PS4.

 

[DOWN]

Praying for this game tbh. I desperately want an RPG on PS4.

It isn't one tho. It's about as deep as Arkham and Assassin's Creed.

 

[RoboPlato]

If this is like Second Son "Unlocked 60fps" then it will be amazing IMO.

I never needed the 30fps lock in that game, felt perfect, maybe is because Im not that used to 60fps? who knows!

Second Son feels better than most unlocked games because it's relatively steady at maintaining a consistent pace, it's not varying wildly. First Light is even better about it.

I've actually heard a few solid impressions of the framerate of Mordor from PAX so I'm not too worried about this game.

 

[Ashtar]

Has anyone else heard about the supposed sequel to this game? featuring 4 player co-op with 4 wizards? Early concept video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2An0fuHW8E

But seriously what a missed opportunity for marketing....

 

[Kintaro]

I'm so hyped I want the season pass. The Season Pass.

I need to calm down...